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Just A Box Of Rain

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15. I do. The original German Antifa helped the Nazis come to power.
Tue Jul 5, 2022, 04:02 PM
Jul 2022

I suggest you study the history.

Germany's Antifa was controlled by Ernst Thälmann, the leader of the Communist Party of Germany. It was Thälmann who invented the "Hitler First, Then Us" strategy.

The KPD Communist Party of Germany attacked the liberal Social Democratic Party (SPD), which was the 1930's German version of our own Democratic Party, as "social fascists" and made its primary aim towards destroying liberalism (which they call "fascism&quot .

From Wikipedia [emphasis added]:

However, after the Comintern's abrupt ultra-left turn in its Third Period from 1928, the KPD regarded the Social Democratic Party of Germany (SPD) as its main adversary and adopted the position that the SPD was the main fascist party in Germany.[13]

This was based on the theory of social fascism that had been proclaimed by Joseph Stalin and that was supported by the Comintern during the late 1920s and early 1930s, which held that social democracy was a variant of fascism.[14]

Consequently, the KPD held that it was "the only anti-fascist party" in Germany[6][15] and stated that "fighting fascism means fighting the SPD just as much as it means fighting Hitler and the parties of Brüning."[16]

In KPD and Soviet usage, fascism was primarily viewed as the final stage of capitalism rather than a specific group or movement such as the Italian Fascists or the German Nazis and, based on this theory, the term was applied quite broadly.

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About the Antifa bullshit [View all] Cyrano Jul 2022 OP
They want to create a false equivalency that does not exist. Bluethroughu Jul 2022 #1
The first sentence of this essay is WRONG FakeNoose Jul 2022 #2
x1000 BlueIdaho Jul 2022 #4
Antifa is 90 years old and was founded in Germany in 1932 LeftInTX Jul 2022 #6
✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️ live love laugh Jul 2022 #8
At what point does this denial become conspiracy thinking? Sympthsical Jul 2022 #14
Agreed. They are not what the Right Wingers say they are, but there is such a thing. Caliman73 Jul 2022 #19
Exactly, it's an easy one stop shop villain for the Right Sympthsical Jul 2022 #23
One of the reasons that further left and Antifa types are universally disliked... Caliman73 Jul 2022 #24
I started getting into Che Guevara lately Sympthsical Jul 2022 #26
+100 Celerity Jul 2022 #28
Too many semantic games with the terms anti facist and antifa uponit7771 Jul 2022 #38
FakeNoose Is Correct. n/t Different Drummer Jul 2022 #33
+1, uponit7771 Jul 2022 #37
Check your third paragraph. It draws the wrong conclusion. brush Jul 2022 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author muriel_volestrangler Jul 2022 #36
When I am talking to known Republicans/Libertarians, my "joke" about Antifa is this: KarenS Jul 2022 #5
We're meeting at four behind Old Man Johnson's barn cyclonefence Jul 2022 #7
I'll be there, wearing a red carnation, and my Roisin Ni Fiachra Jul 2022 #51
Antifa is made up BS. If there was an Antifa it was Emile Jul 2022 #9
Absolute nonsense. Just A Box Of Rain Jul 2022 #11
You do know NAZIS were fascists? Emile Jul 2022 #12
Antifa is/was anti-military LeftInTX Jul 2022 #13
Not true. They folded into the German Communist Party and ran East Germany Just A Box Of Rain Jul 2022 #22
I do. The original German Antifa helped the Nazis come to power. Just A Box Of Rain Jul 2022 #15
Anybody who fought the Nazis were against fascists. Emile Jul 2022 #17
I guess you didn't bother to read it. Just A Box Of Rain Jul 2022 #18
From the wiki ... "Antifa is not a unified organization..", some are playing a semantic game when uponit7771 Jul 2022 #39
Antifa fought the liberal German Social Democrats as their main political enemy. Just A Box Of Rain Jul 2022 #49
The MAGAt king and his worshipers are constantly using bullshit propaganda about Antifa Roisin Ni Fiachra Jul 2022 #46
I'm not remotely "helping them" and falsely saying otherwise is a slur and personal attack. Just A Box Of Rain Jul 2022 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author Roisin Ni Fiachra Jul 2022 #48
Simple: Antifaschistische Aktion Just A Box Of Rain Jul 2022 #50
My grandparents fought in WW2 were democrats and by default being American born antifa rockfordfile Jul 2022 #34
Being anti-fascist and Antifa are not synonymous terms. Just A Box Of Rain Jul 2022 #35
+1, RIGHT !!! People are playing the rights semantic games uponit7771 Jul 2022 #40
Antifa had nothing to do with this shooting. Just A Box Of Rain Jul 2022 #10
Bray also said: Baked Potato Jul 2022 #20
Some of their actions involve violence and some do not. Just A Box Of Rain Jul 2022 #21
Semantics uponit7771 Jul 2022 #41
I think I have seen two people call themselves AntiFa. One was a big black dude at Charlotesville brewens Jul 2022 #16
Antifa actually exists Progressive dog Jul 2022 #25
I've seen Antifa flags with my own eyes. maxsolomon Jul 2022 #27
Thank you for being Tickle Jul 2022 #29
I haven't seen them do bad. maxsolomon Jul 2022 #30
I didn't know about Tickle Jul 2022 #31
It makes us look ignorant and backward LOL LeftInTX Jul 2022 #32
Recommend. Fuck fascism. I'm a staunch anti-fascist, and don't know anyone who belongs to Roisin Ni Fiachra Jul 2022 #42
Are you aware that the original German Antifa was the KPD? Just A Box Of Rain Jul 2022 #43
That's horseshit. Why are you so actively invested in trashing anti-fascism, and anti-fascists? Roisin Ni Fiachra Jul 2022 #44
Did you did not read what I actually wrote? Just A Box Of Rain Jul 2022 #45
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