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In It to Win It

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18. I don't disagree
Tue Jul 5, 2022, 04:55 PM
Jul 2022

That unknown is scary.

On the other hand, I do question at what point do we start to compromise on those procedural stances. For the bigger policy goals that the Party has, we obviously require 60 senators. Over the next 10 years, can we see that being attainable? If not, then what do we do accomplish our goals over that time horizon?

A reproductive rights bill requires 60 senators. If we create a carve out to pass legislation regulating abortion on a simple majority, Republicans will create a carve out for some batshit crazy shit that they want or they repeal the same legislation because they no longer need 60 senators for legislation on abortion regulations. Maybe they get rid of the filibuster entirely as a response.

We'd have to create a carve out on the filibuster to expand the court also.

If we create carveouts for all of these things, they will create carveouts.

I wrestle with the question because frankly, I've begun to think getting 60 senators is not an attainable goal anymore. If I truly believe that, I would have to be willing to make the compromise and be willing to take the risk of escalation by Republicans.

What are the issues we're willing to risk it for? Court expansion? Abortion rights? Healthcare? Voting rights?

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Easy Peasy SoCalDavidS Jul 2022 #1
And your solution is? Peacetrain Jul 2022 #5
Acceptance SoCalDavidS Jul 2022 #10
If you do nothing, then we know the outcome for sure.. it is a certaintyll Peacetrain Jul 2022 #13
Now! Bluethroughu Jul 2022 #2
Have you discussed this with President Biden? brooklynite Jul 2022 #3
And what other solution is there? Peacetrain Jul 2022 #7
Keep winning In It to Win It Jul 2022 #16
Exactly Rebl2 Jul 2022 #12
And everyone gets a pony! n/t Silent3 Jul 2022 #4
And your solution is? Peacetrain Jul 2022 #6
I didn't say I had a solution. But a wish list isn't a solution either. Silent3 Jul 2022 #11
I see nothing else that we can do.. other than just get out and vote vote vote Peacetrain Jul 2022 #14
Next time GOP controls all three branches exboyfil Jul 2022 #8
How else do we stop it.. Peacetrain Jul 2022 #9
We keep winning In It to Win It Jul 2022 #15
I think some may (rightly) be cautious Mad_Machine76 Jul 2022 #17
I don't disagree In It to Win It Jul 2022 #18
I think that Mad_Machine76 Jul 2022 #21
Not just take back the Senate, but take back the Senate by at least a majority of two seats JohnSJ Jul 2022 #19
I guess some of the above are trying to make you give up your opinion. LakeArenal Jul 2022 #20
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