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treestar

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9. they were invented by judges and by constitution makers

Reply to global1 (Original post)

Wed Jul 6, 2022, 01:32 PM

Jul 2022

lawyers argue both sides of them, depending on who they represent.

The evidence rules are to help assure reliability and genuineness.

They are not loopholes. If you are accused of something, these rights are valuable.

"Obviously guilty" is not a legal concept and hasn't been in a long time - even the middle ages had better standards than that.

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Why Is It So Hard To Put Obviously Guilty Criminals In Jail?.... [View all] global1 Jul 2022 OP

who decides obviously guilty????? moonshinegnomie Jul 2022 #1

So You Don't Think Crimo III Is Obviously Guilty?....nt global1 Jul 2022 #4

He's pleaded guilty, he IS in JAIL now, elleng Jul 2022 #10

I know right? Effete Snob Jul 2022 #14

But he should really be in jail. Dr. Strange Jul 2022 #21

They should build a jail IN the jail and put him in that! Effete Snob Jul 2022 #23

He is also obviously in jail Effete Snob Jul 2022 #12

Uh, he has already confessed. MineralMan Jul 2022 #26

Well, cops see skin color and decide guilt Bettie Jul 2022 #11

The OG Grand Jury Effete Snob Jul 2022 #19

But they can put 60 bullets into an unarmed multigraincracker Jul 2022 #2

Their right to a vigorous defense. Hugin Jul 2022 #3

Fukin' innocent until proven guilty sarisataka Jul 2022 #5

Constitution? Federal Rules of Evidence? Rules of Criminal Procedure? Renaissance Man Jul 2022 #6

Mmmmmm sounds kinda fascist ngl WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2022 #7

" it seems like the law is more on the side of the bad guys" Effete Snob Jul 2022 #8

I think the problem is that in order to use any of these protections Bettie Jul 2022 #16

Absolutely Effete Snob Jul 2022 #17

Yes, but I see the frustration Bettie Jul 2022 #18

they were invented by judges and by constitution makers treestar Jul 2022 #9

Because the American system of checks and balances was designed to ensure (as much as possible) Celerity Jul 2022 #13

It's only difficult to put white, white-collar men in jail. nt Laffy Kat Jul 2022 #15

Not really. former9thward Jul 2022 #29

Because our founders had the wisdom to understand the danger of having no check . . . markpkessinger Jul 2022 #20

Precisely to protect us from folks like yourself tritsofme Jul 2022 #22

+1 Effete Snob Jul 2022 #27

Obviously guilty, eh? MineralMan Jul 2022 #24

. Effete Snob Jul 2022 #28

Unless there is active and sustained effort against them, the powerful can and will escape justice. DickKessler Jul 2022 #25