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47. I have hopes for the Ford F-150 Lightning

Mon Jul 11, 2022, 11:57 AM

Jul 2022

It builds on the popularity of the F--150, looks just like a pickup truck that average folks want to buy, unlike Tesla's crazy cybertruck, & starts at $40k.

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GM, Ford Poised to Eat Tesla's Lunch Over Next Four Years [View all] Takket Jul 2022 OP

Tesla doesn't seem capable of making a pickup, for some reason. Tomconroy Jul 2022 #1

Rivian has electric trucks and SUVs IronLionZion Jul 2022 #35

Unfortunately they need to up their game if they want to be revelant/// Historic NY Jul 2022 #41

That's the problem the whole industry has fescuerescue Jul 2022 #100

I have hopes for the Ford F-150 Lightning CaptainTruth Jul 2022 #47

There was a recent YouTube comparison getagrip_already Jul 2022 #67

Of the pickups I see about 90% don't have a scratch in the bed. CaptainTruth Jul 2022 #75

Suburban Assault Vehicles. SergeStorms Jul 2022 #81

The good old days of the F-100! CaptainTruth Jul 2022 #88

I wouldn't judge by bed condition Amishman Jul 2022 #84

My truck is a 2011 Silverado and the bed looks brand new. I had Emile Jul 2022 #99

Yeah, I'm not sure what keeps delaying the pick up, but they do have 2 SUVs. beaglelover Jul 2022 #83

Probably because the Tesla pickup is fugly. MineralMan Jul 2022 #90

The truck and an affordable version of the sedan were delayed of supply issues. Kablooie Jul 2022 #93

would rednecks buy a Tesla pickup just to own the libs? pstokely Jul 2022 #95

I could believe it based on sheer inertia. Hugin Jul 2022 #2

A Lot Of Tesla's Value Was Bound Up In Musk's Reputation smb Jul 2022 #57

Actually, having some experience taking trips in a Tesla, the cars are brilliantly designed. Martin68 Jul 2022 #58

That is the part that Musk had very little input into... Caliman73 Jul 2022 #60

I'm not talking about Musk. I'm talking about Tesla. I don't see the point of getting hung up Martin68 Jul 2022 #62

"First-Mover Disadvantage: 9 Reasons Why Being First to Market Doesn't Pay Off" sop Jul 2022 #3

This does seem to hold some truth 48656c6c6f20 Jul 2022 #11

A bankrupt and destitute Musk would make me happy. Stinky The Clown Jul 2022 #4

Paying Tons of Child Support Deep State Witch Jul 2022 #50

The Big 3 Beachnutt Jul 2022 #5

They are survivors DBoon Jul 2022 #28

In business they talk about moats RAB910 Jul 2022 #6

The thing about those Tesla charging stations? leftieNanner Jul 2022 #13

It's not as simple as they can't use it. they can but there is a catch RAB910 Jul 2022 #20

So basically, Tesla wanted to be the Apple of EV production, eh? Wounded Bear Jul 2022 #32

I don't think it worked well for Apple in the PC market, their success came more in the other tech RAB910 Jul 2022 #49

That's changing in Europe and will change here as well. tinrobot Jul 2022 #77

Tesla wanted to be first so badly they ignored a number of standard practices used to mass produce Ford_Prefect Jul 2022 #40

to make that worse, by their very nature electric vehicles should be more reliable and require less RAB910 Jul 2022 #43

The standard cars which have been adapted to use the Tesla drive train and power system Ford_Prefect Jul 2022 #56

Well...the powertrain might require less maintenance than a gasoline powertrain... jmowreader Jul 2022 #96

True, but the rest of the car isn't particularly high maintenance RAB910 Jul 2022 #98

What I will never understand is why Toyota is so late to the game. Tikki Jul 2022 #7

They tried to push hydrogen instead of EV's NickB79 Jul 2022 #10

Toyota still leans toward hybrids and maybe hydrogen Chuuku Davis Jul 2022 #18

To be frank, plugin hybrids are still more practical RAB910 Jul 2022 #21

Wish I could afford to switch over to a hybrid...nt Wounded Bear Jul 2022 #33

Hybrid - from what I understand the gas tank runs to charge the battery? forgotmylogin Jul 2022 #42

It really depends on the hybrid. Many hybrids have parallel powerplants RAB910 Jul 2022 #46

I disagree. One of the biggest advantages of pure electric is the lack of moving parts and Martin68 Jul 2022 #59

I get your point and it's a fair one. However, as it stands now, EV needs to be one of two vehicles RAB910 Jul 2022 #65

I agree. But that is a factor of being at the very beginning of a massive change-in-progress. Martin68 Jul 2022 #66

I think in Europe ICE could become an endangered species in a few years RAB910 Jul 2022 #71

Yes. Every time I start thinking a plug-in hybrid is most versatile AllyCat Jul 2022 #89

Honda is late also Tree Lady Jul 2022 #27

Toyota is partnering with Mazda to share technoligies. IbogaProject Jul 2022 #85

i'm holding out for an electric vette. mopinko Jul 2022 #8

Coming soon Historic NY Jul 2022 #37

mmmmm ty. e-ray. i love it. mopinko Jul 2022 #45

Better start saving now. The Vette name will triple the cost. Martin68 Jul 2022 #61

i heard $100k mebbe. mopinko Jul 2022 #63

It looks like the front wheels might be driven by an electric motor Victor_c3 Jul 2022 #70

i wouldnt hate havin a 911 either. mopinko Jul 2022 #73

Life certainly has it's difficulties Victor_c3 Jul 2022 #78

yeah, i've never bought brand new, tho the hubs did. mopinko Jul 2022 #80

Tesla has been innovative Buckeyeblue Jul 2022 #9

If we ever buy another car leftieNanner Jul 2022 #12

That's our feeling as well. Our next car will be a Renault hybrid. GoneOffShore Jul 2022 #14

Renaults are not sold in the US any more, right? leftieNanner Jul 2022 #15

Correct - We live in France now, so lots of Renaults here. GoneOffShore Jul 2022 #29

We have talked about moving to France leftieNanner Jul 2022 #39

We sold up in 2018 and in September will have been here 4 years. GoneOffShore Jul 2022 #51

Portugal sounds intriguing leftieNanner Jul 2022 #55

I've been researching moving abroad quite a bit in recent years Victor_c3 Jul 2022 #72

We're in Aix-en-Provence - about 50km northeast of Marseille. GoneOffShore Jul 2022 #86

Same. Initech Jul 2022 #23

Does this mean.... SergeStorms Jul 2022 #16

VW will be the first to overtake Tesla tinrobot Jul 2022 #17

This article is based on so many false assumptions. BSdetect Jul 2022 #19

I bought a Ford Escape Hybrid two years ago Goodheart Jul 2022 #22

Fuck that greedy asshole and his dangerous cars. we can do it Jul 2022 #24

Maybe he should by Twitter. njhoneybadger Jul 2022 #25

You don't need Tesla for a pricy luxury EV sedan, either DBoon Jul 2022 #26

Regardless, I still applaud Tesla for promoting EV's packman Jul 2022 #30

Anecdotal - just retrned from Sweden and Tesla has a big presence there. Tommymac Jul 2022 #31

K&R Thanks for posting. n/t TeamProg Jul 2022 #34

Certainly will Tesla's boring design is aging out I'm so sick of white unimagined painted cars. Historic NY Jul 2022 #36

Eat that Musk! Pepsidog Jul 2022 #38

Musk has been chasing the auto-driving unicorn edhopper Jul 2022 #44

I think it's possible that Tesla won't exist 10 years from now. Fiendish Thingy Jul 2022 #48

I think it will continue to exist, the brand/technology is too valuable. tinrobot Jul 2022 #79

Boo hoo evolves Jul 2022 #52

At the present moment there needs to be some sort of standardization to charging Historic NY Jul 2022 #53

Of course their EV market share is going to decline as EV become more mainstream MichMan Jul 2022 #54

Really interested in Ford's Lightening and the Mach E AllyCat Jul 2022 #64

When I heard about the right to repair issues.... getagrip_already Jul 2022 #69

Worse than I thought AllyCat Jul 2022 #87

Three moving parts. The Jungle 1 Jul 2022 #68

Loosing market share Zeitghost Jul 2022 #74

Tesla plans to survive by offering self driving cars. Kablooie Jul 2022 #76

I have a Tesla Model 3 with enhanced auto pilot. beaglelover Jul 2022 #91

Yeah, I have to keep alert but it rarely gets into situations that seem dangerous. Kablooie Jul 2022 #92

"A winning path" for automobile manufacturers is a losing one Ron Green Jul 2022 #82

Wrong on so many levels, 2025 is less than 3 years away Rstrstx Jul 2022 #94

Tesla has another problem - heavy trucks jmowreader Jul 2022 #97