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48. I think it's possible that Tesla won't exist 10 years from now.

Mon Jul 11, 2022, 11:59 AM

Jul 2022

As more and more automakers ramp up their EV capacity, Musk’s anti union, racist corporate culture will make it hard for him to find workers to build his cars.

Teslas could become the new DeLorean.

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GM, Ford Poised to Eat Tesla's Lunch Over Next Four Years [View all] Takket Jul 2022 OP

Tesla doesn't seem capable of making a pickup, for some reason. Tomconroy Jul 2022 #1

Rivian has electric trucks and SUVs IronLionZion Jul 2022 #35

Unfortunately they need to up their game if they want to be revelant/// Historic NY Jul 2022 #41

That's the problem the whole industry has fescuerescue Jul 2022 #100

I have hopes for the Ford F-150 Lightning CaptainTruth Jul 2022 #47

There was a recent YouTube comparison getagrip_already Jul 2022 #67

Of the pickups I see about 90% don't have a scratch in the bed. CaptainTruth Jul 2022 #75

Suburban Assault Vehicles. SergeStorms Jul 2022 #81

The good old days of the F-100! CaptainTruth Jul 2022 #88

I wouldn't judge by bed condition Amishman Jul 2022 #84

My truck is a 2011 Silverado and the bed looks brand new. I had Emile Jul 2022 #99

Yeah, I'm not sure what keeps delaying the pick up, but they do have 2 SUVs. beaglelover Jul 2022 #83

Probably because the Tesla pickup is fugly. MineralMan Jul 2022 #90

The truck and an affordable version of the sedan were delayed of supply issues. Kablooie Jul 2022 #93

would rednecks buy a Tesla pickup just to own the libs? pstokely Jul 2022 #95

I could believe it based on sheer inertia. Hugin Jul 2022 #2

A Lot Of Tesla's Value Was Bound Up In Musk's Reputation smb Jul 2022 #57

Actually, having some experience taking trips in a Tesla, the cars are brilliantly designed. Martin68 Jul 2022 #58

That is the part that Musk had very little input into... Caliman73 Jul 2022 #60

I'm not talking about Musk. I'm talking about Tesla. I don't see the point of getting hung up Martin68 Jul 2022 #62

"First-Mover Disadvantage: 9 Reasons Why Being First to Market Doesn't Pay Off" sop Jul 2022 #3

This does seem to hold some truth 48656c6c6f20 Jul 2022 #11

A bankrupt and destitute Musk would make me happy. Stinky The Clown Jul 2022 #4

Paying Tons of Child Support Deep State Witch Jul 2022 #50

The Big 3 Beachnutt Jul 2022 #5

They are survivors DBoon Jul 2022 #28

In business they talk about moats RAB910 Jul 2022 #6

The thing about those Tesla charging stations? leftieNanner Jul 2022 #13

It's not as simple as they can't use it. they can but there is a catch RAB910 Jul 2022 #20

So basically, Tesla wanted to be the Apple of EV production, eh? Wounded Bear Jul 2022 #32

I don't think it worked well for Apple in the PC market, their success came more in the other tech RAB910 Jul 2022 #49

That's changing in Europe and will change here as well. tinrobot Jul 2022 #77

Tesla wanted to be first so badly they ignored a number of standard practices used to mass produce Ford_Prefect Jul 2022 #40

to make that worse, by their very nature electric vehicles should be more reliable and require less RAB910 Jul 2022 #43

The standard cars which have been adapted to use the Tesla drive train and power system Ford_Prefect Jul 2022 #56

Well...the powertrain might require less maintenance than a gasoline powertrain... jmowreader Jul 2022 #96

True, but the rest of the car isn't particularly high maintenance RAB910 Jul 2022 #98

What I will never understand is why Toyota is so late to the game. Tikki Jul 2022 #7

They tried to push hydrogen instead of EV's NickB79 Jul 2022 #10

Toyota still leans toward hybrids and maybe hydrogen Chuuku Davis Jul 2022 #18

To be frank, plugin hybrids are still more practical RAB910 Jul 2022 #21

Wish I could afford to switch over to a hybrid...nt Wounded Bear Jul 2022 #33

Hybrid - from what I understand the gas tank runs to charge the battery? forgotmylogin Jul 2022 #42

It really depends on the hybrid. Many hybrids have parallel powerplants RAB910 Jul 2022 #46

I disagree. One of the biggest advantages of pure electric is the lack of moving parts and Martin68 Jul 2022 #59

I get your point and it's a fair one. However, as it stands now, EV needs to be one of two vehicles RAB910 Jul 2022 #65

I agree. But that is a factor of being at the very beginning of a massive change-in-progress. Martin68 Jul 2022 #66

I think in Europe ICE could become an endangered species in a few years RAB910 Jul 2022 #71

Yes. Every time I start thinking a plug-in hybrid is most versatile AllyCat Jul 2022 #89

Honda is late also Tree Lady Jul 2022 #27

Toyota is partnering with Mazda to share technoligies. IbogaProject Jul 2022 #85

i'm holding out for an electric vette. mopinko Jul 2022 #8

Coming soon Historic NY Jul 2022 #37

mmmmm ty. e-ray. i love it. mopinko Jul 2022 #45

Better start saving now. The Vette name will triple the cost. Martin68 Jul 2022 #61

i heard $100k mebbe. mopinko Jul 2022 #63

It looks like the front wheels might be driven by an electric motor Victor_c3 Jul 2022 #70

i wouldnt hate havin a 911 either. mopinko Jul 2022 #73

Life certainly has it's difficulties Victor_c3 Jul 2022 #78

yeah, i've never bought brand new, tho the hubs did. mopinko Jul 2022 #80

Tesla has been innovative Buckeyeblue Jul 2022 #9

If we ever buy another car leftieNanner Jul 2022 #12

That's our feeling as well. Our next car will be a Renault hybrid. GoneOffShore Jul 2022 #14

Renaults are not sold in the US any more, right? leftieNanner Jul 2022 #15

Correct - We live in France now, so lots of Renaults here. GoneOffShore Jul 2022 #29

We have talked about moving to France leftieNanner Jul 2022 #39

We sold up in 2018 and in September will have been here 4 years. GoneOffShore Jul 2022 #51

Portugal sounds intriguing leftieNanner Jul 2022 #55

I've been researching moving abroad quite a bit in recent years Victor_c3 Jul 2022 #72

We're in Aix-en-Provence - about 50km northeast of Marseille. GoneOffShore Jul 2022 #86

Same. Initech Jul 2022 #23

Does this mean.... SergeStorms Jul 2022 #16

VW will be the first to overtake Tesla tinrobot Jul 2022 #17

This article is based on so many false assumptions. BSdetect Jul 2022 #19

I bought a Ford Escape Hybrid two years ago Goodheart Jul 2022 #22

Fuck that greedy asshole and his dangerous cars. we can do it Jul 2022 #24

Maybe he should by Twitter. njhoneybadger Jul 2022 #25

You don't need Tesla for a pricy luxury EV sedan, either DBoon Jul 2022 #26

Regardless, I still applaud Tesla for promoting EV's packman Jul 2022 #30

Anecdotal - just retrned from Sweden and Tesla has a big presence there. Tommymac Jul 2022 #31

K&R Thanks for posting. n/t TeamProg Jul 2022 #34

Certainly will Tesla's boring design is aging out I'm so sick of white unimagined painted cars. Historic NY Jul 2022 #36

Eat that Musk! Pepsidog Jul 2022 #38

Musk has been chasing the auto-driving unicorn edhopper Jul 2022 #44

I think it's possible that Tesla won't exist 10 years from now. Fiendish Thingy Jul 2022 #48

I think it will continue to exist, the brand/technology is too valuable. tinrobot Jul 2022 #79

Boo hoo evolves Jul 2022 #52

At the present moment there needs to be some sort of standardization to charging Historic NY Jul 2022 #53

Of course their EV market share is going to decline as EV become more mainstream MichMan Jul 2022 #54

Really interested in Ford's Lightening and the Mach E AllyCat Jul 2022 #64

When I heard about the right to repair issues.... getagrip_already Jul 2022 #69

Worse than I thought AllyCat Jul 2022 #87

Three moving parts. The Jungle 1 Jul 2022 #68

Loosing market share Zeitghost Jul 2022 #74

Tesla plans to survive by offering self driving cars. Kablooie Jul 2022 #76

I have a Tesla Model 3 with enhanced auto pilot. beaglelover Jul 2022 #91

Yeah, I have to keep alert but it rarely gets into situations that seem dangerous. Kablooie Jul 2022 #92

"A winning path" for automobile manufacturers is a losing one Ron Green Jul 2022 #82

Wrong on so many levels, 2025 is less than 3 years away Rstrstx Jul 2022 #94

Tesla has another problem - heavy trucks jmowreader Jul 2022 #97