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30. I'm with him.

Reply to Hugh_Lebowski (Reply #4)

Mon Jul 11, 2022, 04:38 PM

Jul 2022

No matter WHO it speaks too. I FUCKING HATE RELIGION.

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Explain to me why I'm wrong about tax exempt status for churches. [View all] Rustynaerduwell Jul 2022 OP

Lots of non-profits enjoy tax free status. nt Phoenix61 Jul 2022 #1

Including the NRA spanone Jul 2022 #2

Yes, maybe "Save the Children" should be granted tax free status, but Rustynaerduwell Jul 2022 #6

I don't know any churches that are giving wnylib Jul 2022 #45

+1000 wnylib Jul 2022 #37

I think you are absolutely correct Handler Jul 2022 #3

Because 'people believe' that the 2000 year old scribblings of some random Bronze-Age nomads Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2022 #4

Would you tell that to Joe Biden? former9thward Jul 2022 #15

I didn't denigrate anybody, I just said 'people believe' Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2022 #21

Which non profit religious organization wnylib Jul 2022 #40

Your taxes support those religions SouthernDem4ever Jul 2022 #54

How are tax dollars supporting churches? wnylib Jul 2022 #91

Ok well if you can figure out a way to stop the pilfering in some without affecting the others SouthernDem4ever Jul 2022 #109

I didn't say there were any, now did I? Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2022 #55

But why bring up the idea at all? wnylib Jul 2022 #92

I was saying since Joe Biden is NOT doing this, I don't have a problem Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2022 #115

Pretty much all religious organizations? Voltaire2 Jul 2022 #65

Voltaire, I would expect more discernment wnylib Jul 2022 #93

The Roman Catholic Church is shoving religion onto EVERYONE. Sky Jewels Jul 2022 #82

I Would ProfessorGAC Jul 2022 #38

So you would tell him: former9thward Jul 2022 #52

Comprehension Problems? ProfessorGAC Jul 2022 #67

So just because some prominent Democrats are religious Sky Jewels Jul 2022 #81

I'm with him. Ferrets are Cool Jul 2022 #30

You sound as fanatical and dogmatic about wnylib Jul 2022 #49

Talk about mind control SouthernDem4ever Jul 2022 #58

We can put this to rest easily: Orrex Jul 2022 #80

Such a stereotyped narrow view wnylib Jul 2022 #90

If any law is based in any religion, then that religion MUST prove its veracity Orrex Jul 2022 #100

Don't know if you were trying but you just made the perfect case why SouthernDem4ever Jul 2022 #110

I NEVER FUCKING EVER push my beliefs on others Ferrets are Cool Jul 2022 #89

How could an atheist force beliefs wnylib Jul 2022 #97

Not a fair comparison July Jul 2022 #96

Not a fair comparison July Jul 2022 #98

Bet you didn't know this too Beachnutt Jul 2022 #5

Would love to see some of those reports on the mega churches and the televangelists...nt Wounded Bear Jul 2022 #8

Same here Rebl2 Jul 2022 #39

However, any church that earns money which wnylib Jul 2022 #63

"Related to church operation" is a miraculously large umbrella Orrex Jul 2022 #83

That is basically how it works now Zeitghost Jul 2022 #85

That's funny, because: Orrex Jul 2022 #102

That is unconstitutional Zeitghost Jul 2022 #105

Punish them? No, that's your fantasy. Orrex Jul 2022 #106

It's pretty clear Zeitghost Jul 2022 #107

Whatever Orrex Jul 2022 #108

So, in other words, no charitable deductions wnylib Jul 2022 #94

Or, as you would apparently prefer it: Orrex Jul 2022 #101

I'm not a fan of churches getting tax-free status, but "establishment of religion"... Silent3 Jul 2022 #7

No- the 1st am says ... "shall make no law RESPECTING an establishment of religion"- Rustynaerduwell Jul 2022 #12

That use of "respecting" is in the sense "in regards to", "pertaining to"... Silent3 Jul 2022 #14

Exactly- No "law pertaining to" something- Rustynaerduwell Jul 2022 #17

But then you have to attach "establish" Silent3 Jul 2022 #29

Exactly. I think it could just as easily have said a religious establishment, like a business establ Walleye Jul 2022 #20

And "Establishment"s in the vernacular of the 1770's didn't mean that either dickthegrouch Jul 2022 #27

The problem is when you give a benefit to a religion that non-religions don't get is you... PoliticAverse Jul 2022 #19

Plenty of non-religious organizations SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2022 #71

Tax the churches! nt Wounded Bear Jul 2022 #9

Okay. But how? Zeitghost Jul 2022 #34

Property Taxes? ProfessorGAC Jul 2022 #41

As I said in another post SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2022 #43

Who Accounts For The Charity Donations? ProfessorGAC Jul 2022 #50

We get an annual financial statement SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2022 #59

Sorry ProfessorGAC Jul 2022 #66

Wasn't doing it to elicit sympathy SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2022 #68

Rules Apply Across The Board ProfessorGAC Jul 2022 #72

You're comparing apples to pears SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2022 #73

You Completely Missed The Point ProfessorGAC Jul 2022 #74

Just because I don't agree SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2022 #75

Property taxes might work, but that's only at the local level. Zeitghost Jul 2022 #44

Yep SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2022 #48

Ok, then let's bring church status in parity with other non-profits SouthernDem4ever Jul 2022 #111

I agree 100% on the salary limitations SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2022 #113

Definitely. I was disappointed when I heard what United Way was paying execs SouthernDem4ever Jul 2022 #114

How can you say they have no profit slightlv Jul 2022 #42

+1 peppertree Jul 2022 #46

Pastors Wages Zeitghost Jul 2022 #47

Makes it easy to blur the line between necessary and extravagant. SouthernDem4ever Jul 2022 #112

Government has come to rely on churches and other NGOs to provide assistance to the needy. Ziggysmom Jul 2022 #10

And the Amish shouldn't be exempt from Social Security taxes... PoliticAverse Jul 2022 #11

As I understand it, churches were made exempt from taxes Bettie Jul 2022 #13

That's a result not a cause SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2022 #32

For a starter, H2O Man Jul 2022 #16

You mean like the lastest from Thomas increased my understanding? Ferrets are Cool Jul 2022 #31

There have been decent H2O Man Jul 2022 #35

let me put it this way, many of us put our money where our mouth is , ie feeding the poor, AllaN01Bear Jul 2022 #18

If all churches were like yours we would have no beef at all Walleye Jul 2022 #22

if the tammy and husband and pat roberts were convicted of wire fraund wed have no issues AllaN01Bear Jul 2022 #28

Their tax exempt status SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2022 #23

It is a nonprofit treestar Jul 2022 #24

Exactly SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2022 #26

You're not... it's ludicrous budkin Jul 2022 #25

You skipped a definition. Igel Jul 2022 #33

Simply, because not taxing does not equal endorsing a particular religion... Caliman73 Jul 2022 #36

because azureblue Jul 2022 #51

Tax every church, big or small. Orrex Jul 2022 #53

Will you hold other non-profits to the same regulation? SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2022 #60

Are those other non-profits hiding from taxes under the banner of religion? Orrex Jul 2022 #78

Actually, they're not tax-exempt SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2022 #86

Any time there's talk of taxing churches, the zealots howl about the first amendment Orrex Jul 2022 #99

Sorry, I don't play gorxha SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2022 #103

Other businesses Zeitghost Jul 2022 #62

Tax their property just like any other business. Orrex Jul 2022 #79

Property taxes would work Zeitghost Jul 2022 #84

You won't get an answer SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2022 #87

Sounds exactly like you're endorsing church-based money laundering Orrex Jul 2022 #95

I'm pointing out the problems with treating churches like for profit businesses Zeitghost Jul 2022 #104

The 16th Amendment exempts churches & other religious orgs from taxation. oldsoftie Jul 2022 #56

You're not wrong, and here's what you can do about it. Geechie Jul 2022 #57

Here's a list of possible violations for tax exempt entities: scipan Jul 2022 #76

You're not missing a thing. patphil Jul 2022 #61

Property taxes are local not federal SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2022 #70

Income and tax on real estate holdings. patphil Jul 2022 #77

Sure does seem like it! calimary Jul 2022 #64

If a church deals with influencing government it should lose tax exempt status. Kablooie Jul 2022 #69

"Establishment" was a very specific thing quaker bill Jul 2022 #88