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105. which is why you evacuate and take your emergency stuff with you

Fri Nov 2, 2012, 09:08 AM

Nov 2012

MOST people have friends/co-workers/family who live on higher ground..and this storm was NOT a surprise..

Hurricanes/Nor'easters/blizzards are NOT tornadoes. There is AMPLE time to prepare, IF you care about your lives and the lives of your household..

A tornado can spring up and slam a community while it sleeps, but we ALL saw this HUGE storm approaching for OVER a week.. That is more than enough time for just about ANYONE to find a safe place to hunker down for a few days.

Shit-happens...no one is guaranteed safety from harm, but a LOT of survival comes from knowledge and preparation.

I saw a 60-ish guy on tv (looked like a fairly intelligent guy) who said he had no idea what a storm surge even was.. Like it never occurred to him to google it during the week+ time frame before the storm took away everything he owned.. I'm sure he was "busy"..and "had a life"..but sheez-louise..take a few seconds to google storm surge and take a look at the weather maps..especially when the storm-of-the-forever-and-ever looks to be heading straight for you..

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Really Staten Island????? [View all] sunnystarr Nov 2012 OP

Your concern is heartwarming. pintobean Nov 2012 #1

and their lack of planning and preparation is dumbfounding pasto76 Nov 2012 #54

I was in brooklyn Dorian Gray Nov 2012 #66

+1 whathehell Nov 2012 #75

I haven't heard much about Greenpoint, to be honest Dorian Gray Nov 2012 #112

Thanks for responding, Dorian. Squinch, above, says he/she has a relative in Greenpoint & they are whathehell Nov 2012 #195

Have you tried asking the Red Cross? lunatica Nov 2012 #137

No, I didn't think of it, but thanks for that information. n/t whathehell Nov 2012 #194

My nephew is in Greenpoint. He says they did fine. Squinch Nov 2012 #170

Thanks for that info, Squinch. n/t whathehell Nov 2012 #192

I'm sorry for your loss, but "having a life" is no excuse... eqfan592 Nov 2012 #76

Okay Dorian Gray Nov 2012 #113

Do I blame them for not taking responsibility for their own lives and the lives of their families? eqfan592 Nov 2012 #121

Where are you getting that they had no food or preparations for storms? sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #153

So you're saying that it is impossible to secure food stuffs... eqfan592 Nov 2012 #165

Is that a serious question, really? sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #172

And the response is ............ GoneOffShore Nov 2012 #184

The response is I work second shift and posting from my phone is a pain. eqfan592 Nov 2012 #187

Awaited with baited breath. GoneOffShore Nov 2012 #196

Food stuffs can easily be stored in a manner as to prevent damage from flood waters. eqfan592 Nov 2012 #200

Yep Dorian Gray Nov 2012 #224

Wow, did you just completely skip my response to all that? (nt) eqfan592 Nov 2012 #229

Nope Dorian Gray Nov 2012 #233

My response to that mindset (that now is not the time). eqfan592 Nov 2012 #238

Which is why you evacuate. HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #291

It is impossible to plan. Lady Freedom Returns Nov 2012 #289

As a resident of an area that experiences its fair share of them, I can tell you that you are wrong. eqfan592 Nov 2012 #292

Your lack of compassion is as well. Lady Freedom Returns Nov 2012 #296

Why on earth do people keep assuming that because I am talking about disaster planning... eqfan592 Nov 2012 #298

because you never express any compassion, only judgment CreekDog Nov 2012 #315

Nope, never expressed compassion at all, except for when I did of course. eqfan592 Nov 2012 #321

You can't control.... RichGirl Nov 2012 #141

True. I live in Dallas, TX, but I have emergency supplies, enuf to last a while. Honeycombe8 Nov 2012 #208

I'm in Maine and I was prepared magical thyme Nov 2012 #261

that "Bind Them" .gif in your sigline... CitizenLeft Nov 2012 #212

lol, glad you like it! :D (nt) eqfan592 Nov 2012 #230

I am very sorry for your loss Justice Nov 2012 #86

Thank you Dorian Gray Nov 2012 #218

I was about to lose a loved one this week also, I feel for your lost but we would've sent ONE uponit7771 Nov 2012 #93

Good for you Dorian Gray Nov 2012 #219

That would be a rare situation treestar Nov 2012 #134

I'm sorry for your loss. But given the situation, the wake should have been cut short. progressivebydesign Nov 2012 #157

The wake was Dorian Gray Nov 2012 #221

I imagine we are under no ethical constraints to feel one way or another LanternWaste Nov 2012 #74

I love your final paragraph Dorian Gray Nov 2012 #225

BRAVO! Lady Freedom Returns Nov 2012 #295

Seriously Dorian Gray Nov 2012 #63

Those people were asked to evacuate and/or prepare. They chose to do neither. bluestate10 Nov 2012 #92

Evacuate I agree 100% but if your house is destroyed preparing doesn't help much with supplies former-republican Nov 2012 #97

Not if you keep your supplies with you. eqfan592 Nov 2012 #103

I bet I'm prepared more than most on this board former-republican Nov 2012 #111

I understand what your saying, and while in that circumstance shelter may be hard to come by... eqfan592 Nov 2012 #123

Do you suggest they carry 5 gallons of water and 3 days worth of food and supplies on their backs, boston bean Nov 2012 #276

I've done this myself, so I see no reasons why somebody with the means to do so wouldn't. eqfan592 Nov 2012 #287

You don't wait until the water is neck deep to evacuate. HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #293

many people don't have cars, is the point! nt boston bean Nov 2012 #306

Which is why FREE transportation was available. HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #310

Most in peril now were not mandated to evacuate. nt boston bean Nov 2012 #309

Link? Because I think you're pulling it out of you-know-where. HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #313

which is why you evacuate and take your emergency stuff with you SoCalDem Nov 2012 #105

I think you are wrong oberliner Nov 2012 #118

It's okay for you to not agree with me n/t SoCalDem Nov 2012 #119

Do you know anyone who lives in Staten Island? oberliner Nov 2012 #124

I'm curious where you are getting yours from? What makes you think people on Staten Island cui bono Nov 2012 #150

the majority of homes on Staten Island on the beach, are worth millions... progressivebydesign Nov 2012 #158

WHAT? Dorian Gray Nov 2012 #226

Sorry, but that just isn't true. (nt) eqfan592 Nov 2012 #231

Are you serious? sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #281

You have reminded me of something I take for granted. dixiegrrrrl Nov 2012 #178

In his mind, he's defending Obama from the mean Staten Islanders. Skip Intro Nov 2012 #235

But I have to agree. We were told a week of food and water, and I live just north of the city. Squinch Nov 2012 #2

there are a couple of big housing projects in rockaway. not everyone who lives near the seaside HiPointDem Nov 2012 #7

I think Rockaway is in Queens. HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #13

what's the significance of it being in queens? i was just saying that living in a seaside community HiPointDem Nov 2012 #70

Why do they elect republican US Congress people? Seems counter-intuitive. bluestate10 Nov 2012 #95

Not just a republican... A teabagger. HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #164

what does any of that have to do with my point: it's not only the wealthy who live in 'seaside HiPointDem Nov 2012 #182

But seriously, what more could the government have done for Staten Island? Squinch Nov 2012 #181

again, what does that have to do with my point: it's not just rich people living in 'seaside HiPointDem Nov 2012 #183

Hardly anyone who lives there is wealthy. KamaAina Nov 2012 #317

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Post removed Post removed Nov 2012 #73

WTF? Marrah_G Nov 2012 #79

End of the month ... Myrina Nov 2012 #101

Which is why there was free transportation to free shelters. HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #297

Not everyone has a cottage in the Poconos they can evacuate to. baldguy Nov 2012 #3

True, but having a weeks worth of bottled water and canned goods is not too difficult to manage. peacebird Nov 2012 #5

A week's worth of bottled water and food is an insurmountable barrier bread_and_roses Nov 2012 #45

That doesn't help when your whole house is blown away BlueStreak Nov 2012 #87

No, seriously. There were a bunch of shelters set up inland on the island. Squinch Nov 2012 #174

Why do poor people elect republican US Congress people? nt bluestate10 Nov 2012 #98

Posters are attempting to spin that SI = 9th ward. HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #149

Just some facts. Staten Island: Bluenorthwest Nov 2012 #241

Those numbers are lower than national average... HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #242

Because there is a strong correlation between intelligence and financial status BlueStreak Nov 2012 #176

You fill your bathtub. You buy cheap 2L soda DevonRex Nov 2012 #167

You know most of us are not taking of vulnerable populations nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #248

I agree that we are not rational actors. Squinch Nov 2012 #250

Mexico City nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #251

yeah, like they don't have the gas money, they don't have the money for a hotel boston bean Nov 2012 #277

There were shelters. HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #18

really enough shelters on staten island to hold how many people? boston bean Nov 2012 #278

Seriously, you guys have to look at a map. Staten Island is a big place. Only the coastal areas Squinch Nov 2012 #283

Thats not how shelters work. HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #290

Very simple response. boston bean Nov 2012 #307

Additional shelters were opened after the storm. HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #312

That's why there are shelters. But thanks for your free market only POV. slampoet Nov 2012 #191

I'm More Concerned About The Gas Shortage... KharmaTrain Nov 2012 #4

The problem as I see it with the long gas lines justiceischeap Nov 2012 #8

Yes, I filled my tank early Sunday morning. A few cars were already there but not many. CTyankee Nov 2012 #55

The night before Sandy I could not get gas in Terryville. Jennicut Nov 2012 #96

I get my gas at Stop & Shop. I was there at 6:55 Sunday morning waiting for them to open at 7. CTyankee Nov 2012 #140

I live in the Keys where hurricanes are a way of life. tavernier Nov 2012 #57

it's the first thing I do when I hear snow is coming up here SemperEadem Nov 2012 #88

Same here. I was in an edge path of the storm. bluestate10 Nov 2012 #102

Maybe some of them need to commute to work brentspeak Nov 2012 #280

Staten Island got a lot of food and water trucks in to various locations yesterday evening Squinch Nov 2012 #11

Good To Hear... KharmaTrain Nov 2012 #17

I agree. That's going to be awful to see when the runners go through the devastated areas. Squinch Nov 2012 #41

Marathon has been cancelled by Mayor Bloomberg n/t LiberalElite Nov 2012 #228

Cali didn't write this OP Turborama Nov 2012 #80

Where is everybody driving to NOW, that they didn't gas up before Sandy? WinkyDink Nov 2012 #24

gas is on the way. the President relaxed some rules today, PLUS tankers are probably there by now.nt progressivebydesign Nov 2012 #160

yeah, they should starve & dehydrate because they're such fuck-ups. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #6

No one is saying that, but the fact that they got relief 2 days after the worst storm in the Squinch Nov 2012 #14

if the media coverage is wrong, no problem with criticizing that. i just think it's bad form to HiPointDem Nov 2012 #25

It works both ways, don't you think?... OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #65

i'm not screaming at anyone. but some of the folks on this thread are. and i agree that it's HiPointDem Nov 2012 #67

I think there are important differences from Katrina. Squinch Nov 2012 #173

i agree the response from the feds is way better, without a doubt. but i never questioned that. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #180

Yes, I understand that is what you are saying. Please understand my point: there is no Squinch Nov 2012 #216

Absolutely marions ghost Nov 2012 #50

I never said they should starve & dehydrate sunnystarr Nov 2012 #15

Where do you live? George II Nov 2012 #68

Al Gore, and countless others have been trying for years. EarthGurl2012 Nov 2012 #114

What?! Bloomberg ordered the evacuation and the media made this thing out to be KurtNYC Nov 2012 #125

I live in Syracuse NY sunnystarr Nov 2012 #129

I lived in NYC (or near, visiting often) all my life....64 years... George II Nov 2012 #133

Let them go into the Mafia mansions out there and knock on their doors. secondwind Nov 2012 #9

I know those folks are feeling desperate, angry, and frustrated; however, they were advised to spicegal Nov 2012 #10

Yep. GoCubsGo Nov 2012 #20

They're playing right into the hands of the media... Comrade_McKenzie Nov 2012 #12

But the media is NOW ignoring the relief that has gotten there, which is terrible Squinch Nov 2012 #22

they might be some hired teabaggers to moan before the cameras Whisp Nov 2012 #31

+1. And those who fall for it don't have a clue as to how much worse a privatized relief would be. freshwest Nov 2012 #100

I missed some of the MSNBCs weather forecaster? or producer say that the angle of incoming water .. nenagh Nov 2012 #16

The storm of the century and you're NOT going to evecuate??? Ford_Prefect Nov 2012 #21

(You can get there by driving, too.) WinkyDink Nov 2012 #23

Or you can just walk across the bridge to Bayonne. UnrepentantLiberal Nov 2012 #47

One could; I would forgo the experience: WinkyDink Nov 2012 #282

Starting to see the media "outrage" durablend Nov 2012 #26

Mayor Bloomberg rejected FEMA's Help.. that needs to be entered into the equation.. Cha Nov 2012 #236

Thank you, thank you, thank you for this post!! Ineeda Nov 2012 #27

Staten Island was the same place that the woman with toddlers out in the storm asked bluestate10 Nov 2012 #104

Staten Island has more registered Democrats than registered Republicans. sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #299

If they call for assistance they should be removed from the Island..... oldbanjo Nov 2012 #28

People who wrote such things about New Oleans residents who didn't flee Katrina... slackmaster Nov 2012 #29

Link? Were the NO residents given evacuation notices three days ahead of time? WinkyDink Nov 2012 #35

Mayor Nagin issued a mandatory evacuation order on Sunday, 8/28 about 10:00 AM CDT slackmaster Nov 2012 #64

Nice talking point. UnrepentantLiberal Nov 2012 #144

+1000 ellisonz Nov 2012 #148

this thread is depressing and sad WooWooWoo Nov 2012 #30

I think there are two different conversations going on. Squinch Nov 2012 #36

Most of the population of Staten Island are RoccoR5955 Nov 2012 #32

They need help Marrah_G Nov 2012 #38

Totally agree. Squinch Nov 2012 #43

Exactly Dorian Gray Nov 2012 #72

+1 nt BainsBane Nov 2012 #90

I never said that they don't need help. RoccoR5955 Nov 2012 #106

+1 geardaddy Nov 2012 #109

Officials have many competing issues to deal with when a disaster of this magnitude strikes. bluestate10 Nov 2012 #110

touche! Carolina Nov 2012 #169

+1000 smirkymonkey Nov 2012 #213

I agree, but we've got to get them help. Barack_America Nov 2012 #56

Your hair is green. dixiegrrrrl Nov 2012 #185

And wtf is that supposed to mean? RoccoR5955 Nov 2012 #240

It makes as much sense as saying dixiegrrrrl Nov 2012 #244

It's not a non-fact, it's my observation from RoccoR5955 Nov 2012 #247

Now you are presenting the specific iinformation that is helpful dixiegrrrrl Nov 2012 #262

Staten Island is a BIG island, most of which is not flooded adigal Nov 2012 #33

It's four days before an ELECTION durablend Nov 2012 #34

What does that mean? What does the election have to do with this? adigal Nov 2012 #115

LOL EarthGurl2012 Nov 2012 #116

Hind sight is 20/20 Marrah_G Nov 2012 #37

I don't think that they get it! The bigger the area, glowing Nov 2012 #39

I hate to say it...but 53tammy Nov 2012 #40

This. Le Taz Hot Nov 2012 #53

Do you kick car crash victims? Do you take the blankets from flu sufferers? Stinky The Clown Nov 2012 #42

This OP and its many approving responses makes me sad Marrah_G Nov 2012 #46

Sadly, Marrah . . . . . we both know. Stinky The Clown Nov 2012 #58

Yeah Stinky........ it's just painful to watch. nt Marrah_G Nov 2012 #62

This message was self-deleted by its author eqfan592 Nov 2012 #117

God almighty. I agree. I can't believe some of the attitudes here. Butterbean Nov 2012 #130

You bring up a good point to explore... Lars39 Nov 2012 #211

Agree ckimmy57 Nov 2012 #44

7 years ago, republicans said the exact same thing as you're saying now... egduj Nov 2012 #48

Actually, 7 years ago the situation couldn't have been more different. Squinch Nov 2012 #246

And they had the means and the ability to leave Gman Nov 2012 #49

Yes, they were told and warned. Having never experienced a hurricane before Harry Monroe Nov 2012 #51

And guess who they'll blame - PrezO for not go there with Cuomo. VPStoltz Nov 2012 #52

My guess is the OP feels frustration. fugop Nov 2012 #59

"and need to take a ferry to get there." - amazing display of cluelessness. PoliticAverse Nov 2012 #60

Absolutely disgusting post! George II Nov 2012 #61

I was in Brooklyn Dorian Gray Nov 2012 #69

Dorian I am so sorry for your loss Marrah_G Nov 2012 #77

Thank you Dorian Gray Nov 2012 #108

Thank you Marrah.... Dorian Gray Nov 2012 #264

I am sorry for your loss nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #259

Thank you Dorian Gray Nov 2012 #263

It will be slow going at first nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #266

Yeah Dorian Gray Nov 2012 #272

Those people on Doomsday Preppers don't look so stupid now. Redford Nov 2012 #71

Never rely on the government to save you in case of a disaster former-republican Nov 2012 #84

Sounds like a nice right-wing talking point Hugabear Nov 2012 #147

Oh what a load of bullshit. eqfan592 Nov 2012 #151

It's something that a reasonably intelligent person should know by now. former-republican Nov 2012 #217

This is why THE GOVERNMENT recommends nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #249

Being prepared is a lifestyle, 53tammy Nov 2012 #78

Was it a mandatory or were they advised? former-republican Nov 2012 #81

I think it was mandatory for Zone A, the coastline oberliner Nov 2012 #120

Mandatory for the areas where most of the damage occurred. Squinch Nov 2012 #177

Replace New Orleans with Stanten Island, B2G Nov 2012 #82

So, okay, they didn't evacuate. So that means they must suffer, right? Javaman Nov 2012 #83

Reminds me of what was said about New Orleans. caseymoz Nov 2012 #85

Again, nobody is saying that they should be ignored. eqfan592 Nov 2012 #127

You think this attitude is not going to discourage help? caseymoz Nov 2012 #131

The same way I'm advocating for State Island? eqfan592 Nov 2012 #136

Most weren't in the evacuation zone BainsBane Nov 2012 #89

Actually, most of the damage and deaths DID occur in zone A. Squinch Nov 2012 #252

Do You Mean To Tell Me!!!!! Disconnect Nov 2012 #91

The lack of preparedness can have many causes... Horse with no Name Nov 2012 #94

Cold-hearted responses here for those sitting cozy at their computers dmr Nov 2012 #99

Cold hearted would be to say that we should abandon those people to their fates. eqfan592 Nov 2012 #126

I think the truth is many did not believe it would be that bad. Jennicut Nov 2012 #107

I think it was a great attention-getting move janet118 Nov 2012 #122

anyone along the east coast.. stillcool Nov 2012 #128

It seems a little too late to be placing BLAME!!!!! mstinamotorcity2 Nov 2012 #132

Maybe you could wait until we recover the floating bodies _ed_ Nov 2012 #135

I love it. Some of us were called assholes before the storm for saying folks needed to prepare... eqfan592 Nov 2012 #138

Sorry, we were called names for telling people nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #256

No one is saying these people shouldn't be helped; hedgehog Nov 2012 #139

Even if every last one of them is a Tea bagger BainsBane Nov 2012 #142

I feel bad for them, but there is no excuse for being unprepared IVoteDFL Nov 2012 #143

Some New York residents on the forum here told us repeatedly that there was no need to do any... eqfan592 Nov 2012 #146

Well, you're just so damn smart then _ed_ Nov 2012 #155

Thank you for being part of the problem. nt eqfan592 Nov 2012 #162

Is that you, Mitt Romney? _ed_ Nov 2012 #166

Please point to where I said anything even remotely close to that. eqfan592 Nov 2012 #188

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Link please... Earth_First Nov 2012 #215

Check out this subthread. JVS Nov 2012 #223

Thanks for the assist. (nt) eqfan592 Nov 2012 #232

Thank you for the link... Earth_First Nov 2012 #234

Actually, I'd say that probably is the average train of thought for most people in general. eqfan592 Nov 2012 #243

From experience, this is the normal attitude nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #257

Go to Hell Ter Nov 2012 #145

Thank you. flvegan Nov 2012 #163

Well said. woo me with science Nov 2012 #198

Feel better now? ceile Nov 2012 #152

You make good points..my main political concern is... GranholmFan Nov 2012 #154

the first fatalities there were a family that didn't want to be burglarized.. progressivebydesign Nov 2012 #156

"Don't go on tv whining about other people not doing things for you." _ed_ Nov 2012 #159

Yet another comparison fail. eqfan592 Nov 2012 #190

Go fuck yourself _ed_ Nov 2012 #202

Thank you for proving my point. nt eqfan592 Nov 2012 #205

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What makes you think dead bodies are floating in the streets? Squinch Nov 2012 #253

Actually, as I heard it, the FIRST fatalities were two boys, aged 11 and 13, playing in an upstairs Squinch Nov 2012 #245

That is true. HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #302

Don't misunderstand. I think those folks should have evacuated. I was making a different point. Squinch Nov 2012 #318

"My job is not to worry about those people. _ed_ Nov 2012 #161

Thanks for your concern. former9thward Nov 2012 #168

You need to take a Ferry to get to Staten Island? n/t hughee99 Nov 2012 #171

I guess it's easy to miss the 4th-longest suspension bridge in the world... PoliticAverse Nov 2012 #197

From Manhattan, yes. Renew Deal Nov 2012 #222

I don't think when discussing evacuation routes hughee99 Nov 2012 #237

Right Renew Deal Nov 2012 #239

No, you don't need the ferry. There are a lot of bridges. You can pretty much walk to New Jersey. Squinch Nov 2012 #286

I guess they don't get together as neighbors and pool their resources. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #175

But seriously, what more could the government have done? Squinch Nov 2012 #179

What if you live somewhere that was not in an evacuation zone? Glassunion Nov 2012 #186

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AMEN to that! _ed_ Nov 2012 #201

I have to agree and pray I NEVER need to look to the people here for compassion and understanding. auntAgonist Nov 2012 #269

You DON'T need a ferry to get there... markpkessinger Nov 2012 #193

They're on their way... MrMickeysMom Nov 2012 #199

Your compassion is overwhelming etherealtruth Nov 2012 #204

A disgusting OP, mirror image of FR during Katrina. JackRiddler Nov 2012 #207

^^^this^^^ indeed. Melinda Nov 2012 #255

They are still pulling bodies out of the water on SI. Fire Walk With Me Nov 2012 #209

Jesus, they will for a week or so nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #258

and you know so much about compassion !! auntAgonist Nov 2012 #270

My dear when was the last time you actually faced victims of disasters? nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #271

You know what? Doing all of that is admirable. Doesn't make you more compassionate though. The "my auntAgonist Nov 2012 #274

It might not be to your standards nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #275

My dear, when was the last time you went to space? RobertBlue Nov 2012 #304

That is good to know nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #305

Agree totally. I'm in the mid-atlantic and I got out - lynne Nov 2012 #210

How did you leave, by car? were you reliant on carrying three days of water and food boston bean Nov 2012 #279

My wife and I are prepared to go by foot if need be. eqfan592 Nov 2012 #288

You should yell louder at the TV that way those people who don't have power, died, left jp11 Nov 2012 #214

I refuse to dump on people when I've never been in their situation, who is anyone to say who isn't Raine Nov 2012 #220

A florida boy gives his two cents DonCoquixote Nov 2012 #227

True, NYers aren't used to hurricanes, their last was 14 months ago. HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #303

100% agree Eddie Haskell Nov 2012 #254

Whining? Dorian Gray Nov 2012 #260

Did I misspell whining? Eddie Haskell Nov 2012 #267

I don't think anybody's whining Dorian Gray Nov 2012 #273

Staten Island is not a barrier island. Look at a map, for chrissakes. Chorophyll Nov 2012 #308

I didn't say it was. Eddie Haskell Nov 2012 #319

Which doesn't negate any of the points I made in my comment. Chorophyll Nov 2012 #320

No where. Eddie Haskell Nov 2012 #323

"Why should I subsidize your insurance just because you want an ocean view?" you say. Chorophyll Nov 2012 #324

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Same here, nnn Whoa_Nelly Nov 2012 #268

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Nov 2012 #284

I agree. RobertBlue Nov 2012 #300

The OP and many of the responses on this thread are revolting. kwassa Nov 2012 #285

As someone told me earlier, tough shit. closeupready Nov 2012 #322

There are so many things wrong with this post, I don't know where to begin. vanbean Nov 2012 #294

Bad form. n/t cynatnite Nov 2012 #301

Oh my. lonestarnot Nov 2012 #311

Anyone who recommended this --would you prefer Staten Islanders die? That would keep them quiet. CreekDog Nov 2012 #314

Mandatory evacuation was only for Zone A KamaAina Nov 2012 #316