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cthulu2016

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18. This is just about the worst possible example
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 10:10 AM
Nov 2012

Any station that cannot pump because power is out is certainly not showing a failure of entrepreneurial imagination. The power is out.

Any station that cannot get gas supply because of anything to do with roads is not showing a failure of entrepreneurial imagination. The roads are closed.

Any station that takes extraordinary steps to meet demand will be the lead story on the news for "gouging," and depending on the locality may face legal sanctions for such, so there is no long run benefit to trying to meet demand today.

With the extreme demand in place, any gas station in the area would buy/rent a generator at any price, and buy truckloads of gas at any price, and price the gas according to those extraordinary costs.

Why do you think they do not? What are you suggesting? That the private sector doesn't like money? What is the evidence for that?

At $10/gallon there would be no supply problem at all that was not attributable to failures of public utilities (electricity and roads) so you couldn't pick a worse example of a failure of the free market.

There are plenty of trucks laden with gasoline in Maryland, Delaware and Pennsylvania that will drop whatever they are doing and head anywhere in New Jersey they can drive to to sell that gas to a functioning gas station at $9.00/gallon wholesale.

People's opposition to "gouging" is akin to medieval opposition to lending at interest. It arbitrarily expects a service to be magically provided at substantially below the real value of the service.

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The free market should allow for unrestrained prices postulater Nov 2012 #1
Bring in the Army tankers. 2-3 gallons for everyone, to get them out of the city. Barack_America Nov 2012 #2
"Get them out of the City"? brooklynite Nov 2012 #11
Not beforehand, now. Barack_America Nov 2012 #17
Same point brooklynite Nov 2012 #21
I don't think people are leaving hoboken123 Nov 2012 #22
Or u could be like that Dina person from HGTV who tweeted how she filled up her "cars" progressivebydesign Nov 2012 #27
I don't need to leave. But the people I know out in the 'burbs... JHB Nov 2012 #28
Are there profiteering laws against setting exboyfil Nov 2012 #3
And if you buy from a truck Lefty Thinker Nov 2012 #6
Reinforces our argument that government exboyfil Nov 2012 #10
There is probably a law against it, especially in NY. Atman Nov 2012 #9
The law serves to price the externality exboyfil Nov 2012 #12
Redundancy reduces profit, so redundacy will not be provided Strelnikov_ Nov 2012 #4
I think that's basically right. No back-up generators in most gas stations because they aren't HereSince1628 Nov 2012 #14
Our town's maintenance facility has its own "gas station." Atman Nov 2012 #29
My son, who lives in Mahwah NJ, called last night to say.... Bonhomme Richard Nov 2012 #5
There's no gas, it makes complete sense hoboken123 Nov 2012 #25
One of the most important things a person can do to prepare for a disaster is to fill up the gas... slackmaster Nov 2012 #7
Of course not brooklynite Nov 2012 #8
It stretches far beyond the boroughs: hour north of NYC is still without gas lindysalsagal Nov 2012 #13
The biggest failure is the failure of people who are now out of fuel... slackmaster Nov 2012 #15
It's not the power issue hoboken123 Nov 2012 #26
Excellent question. kentuck Nov 2012 #16
This is just about the worst possible example cthulu2016 Nov 2012 #18
Your statement in the 7th paragraph is not accurate. A HERETIC I AM Nov 2012 #20
Yes, I do realize their cargo is under contract cthulu2016 Nov 2012 #23
Fine, me and FEMA and the feds are all wrong alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #36
How could the government do any better? B2G Nov 2012 #19
We're about to find out alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #32
a good time to ask the question? kentuck Nov 2012 #24
Are Americans too impatient? Unable to cope with crisis? progressivebydesign Nov 2012 #30
It's not Americans malaise Nov 2012 #34
I guess we'll get to test out some of the free market theories on this thread alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #31
Well FEMA is not putting up with this shite malaise Nov 2012 #33
Yup...just posted that...notice that I posted the OP this morning alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #35
I've been following the aftermath on WPIX malaise Nov 2012 #37
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