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Charlotte Little

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261. Sorry, but you sound like a bleeding heart liberal...

Fri Nov 2, 2012, 12:43 PM

Nov 2012

This storm came with ample warning. Lots of folks who don't evacuate when told it is mandatory do so in defiance. I've seen that on the west coast during wild fires. They stand outside with hoses as the flames approach thinking that they can save their homes. Then, firefighters have to risk their own lives to save those idiots.

When you're told to evacuate, go. And if you don't have means, the authorities WILL help you and get you to a shelter or community center out of the path of harm.

I'm certainly no Republican, but I firmly believe we should charge heavy fines to people who do not evacuate and cost states $$$ for rescue efforts. Not to mention the lives that are on the line when rescue crews have to subject themselves to danger. Maybe there should be jail time for those who can't pay the fees? - this might curtail the rebel-hunker-down-and-ride-it-out bullshit attitudes that exist in this country.

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Self Deleted [View all] Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 OP

is he not on it? quinnox Nov 2012 #1

It surely doesn't sound like someone's on it....if you watch the people pleading on TV. Maybe Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #4

It's going to take some time.... barnabas63 Nov 2012 #10

I'd also like to mention that the folks who are in serious trouble right now... eqfan592 Nov 2012 #15

I've been watching the news 24/7. You make it sound like Katrina. vaberella Nov 2012 #35

I saw CNN as I was in line at the bank and it LOOKED like Katrina all over again. Democratopia Nov 2012 #112

what's funny is that the people screaming for help are very likely republicans... BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #196

Yes...heavily racist area. RagAss Nov 2012 #199

Keep politics out of this discussion.. Helping people during a terrible disaster is not contingent crunch60 Nov 2012 #229

I'm just pointitng out the unbelievable irony of the situation. BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #244

Staten Island is the teabag capitol of NYC! RoccoR5955 Nov 2012 #248

The TV will present things with a spin treestar Nov 2012 #247

I heard Mayor Bloomberg say yesterday that President Obama Window Nov 2012 #56

lol, did he really use the word "dis"? quinnox Nov 2012 #168

Yes, he did. I had to laugh at that myself. Window Nov 2012 #235

Micromanagement is the Gov and Mayor's job... Comrade_McKenzie Nov 2012 #2

more face time by obama is good for confidence and support nt msongs Nov 2012 #6

Pardon my french but I don't give a fuck who's fault it is - people are really Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #8

I don't think anyone is saying they're not. vaberella Nov 2012 #18

I agree! Bloomberg needs to get himself out to the outer boroughs. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #26

Yeah...he has been to Staten Island..but I heard there is confusion between all the manpower. vaberella Nov 2012 #41

I think the OP wants things to get done. Just does not work that way. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #100

Just get the military to get them off the island (if they want) stick them in a hotel. Democratopia Nov 2012 #109

That is up to local leaders hear. Obama can just keep mentioning in his stump speeches. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #182

So, you're saying the U.S. DevonRex Nov 2012 #216

Well making the Donald feed the poor is a great idea. n/t hrmjustin Nov 2012 #218

I say this with respect but he cannot perform magic. There's no easy and fast way. nolabear Nov 2012 #45

I agree. I lived in NOLA for three years, I understand, and people who have lost understand that Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #134

Right on, who dat! garthranzz Nov 2012 #222

You don't care whose fault it is, but just want Obama to fix everything now? What would you like uppityperson Nov 2012 #76

They decided to stay in a MANDATORY Evacuation Area... BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #187

Bologna! There are many reasons why people don't evacuate when advised. You sound like a hard butt crunch60 Nov 2012 #231

and ALL of those "reasons" are invalid. BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #243

Sorry, but you sound like a bleeding heart liberal... Charlotte Little Nov 2012 #261

I know some people who really ran with.... NCTraveler Nov 2012 #262

During a disaster where people lack electricity abelenkpe Nov 2012 #9

He's given his orders, will learn about Staten Island when he returns 'home' or wherever tonight, elleng Nov 2012 #3

I saw something on the news tonight.... MountainMazza Nov 2012 #5

good, but it's been 72 hrs Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #14

When we had that storm here in Ohio this summer rbrnmw Nov 2012 #114

give me a break. 72 hours and you want heaven and earth moved just like that??? progressivebydesign Nov 2012 #200

Actually military stuff was already sent in this morning. vaberella Nov 2012 #22

Geez he's on it. msrizzo Nov 2012 #7

Puleeze....don't give me that crap about photo-oping. Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #11

You seem to ignore everything the poster said which is 100% valid though. n/t vaberella Nov 2012 #25

It's pretty clear what Laura wants to see happen on Tuesday alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #30

What??? I hope you know me well enough to know it's to see Obama reelected Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #50

What a complete load of crap. This impugning DUers needs to stop. Melinda Nov 2012 #175

Absolutely! Puglover Nov 2012 #255

This is all on Bloomberg. Jennicut Nov 2012 #36

And if I were Bloomberg, I'd forget the Sunday marathon. LisaL Nov 2012 #42

+1000000 Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #52

Hell no. The marathon brings in 34 Million dollars alone. vaberella Nov 2012 #65

But right now? Less than a week after a major storm? LisaL Nov 2012 #68

Current estimates for all storm damage is $50 billion SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #125

You're a bit limited in your amount. vaberella Nov 2012 #133

NYC doesn''t have trillions per year in economic activity SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #161

50 Billion in damages not to mention the economic impact that will go on for roughly 3 weeks. vaberella Nov 2012 #197

HELLO!! SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #237

I read in another thread a report saying 250 billion according to insurers...nt Mojorabbit Nov 2012 #225

I am sorry but I think they could put it off for the week. Our city needs to put our efforts on hrmjustin Nov 2012 #185

The marathon Dorian Gray Nov 2012 #55

ITA. It's crazy. LisaL Nov 2012 #64

It's because of that they are pushing the marathon. vaberella Nov 2012 #71

Presumably it could have been moved to the next Sunday and brought in the same money. LisaL Nov 2012 #78

That's true enough. vaberella Nov 2012 #130

not necessarily. BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #251

I know Dorian Gray Nov 2012 #239

Yes This is pissing people off here in NY hrmjustin Nov 2012 #186

Actually, it sounds like you want more photo-oping onenote Nov 2012 #62

No, I do not. Just want something bigger than the states can provide to help these people Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #89

The "something bigger" is already there, it's called FEMA... Spazito Nov 2012 #113

Oh like FEMA??? sheesh. nt progressivebydesign Nov 2012 #202

Puleeze...we're not talking about Photo OPs. This thread is full of what's Cha Nov 2012 #146

+1 barnabas63 Nov 2012 #12

Right, and he's spoken w cuomo and other officials several times today. elleng Nov 2012 #48

Hi elleng sheshe2 Nov 2012 #223

Hi, she. Fine, thanks. elleng Nov 2012 #224

Lost mine for 8 hours sheshe2 Nov 2012 #228

So you're in MA and lost power? elleng Nov 2012 #234

He can't micromanage the recovery. I'm sure he's "on it" The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2012 #13

He doesn't have to go there...but he can call in navy/coast guard to bring in supplies. Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #39

he has, they have. cuomo discussing on rachel. elleng Nov 2012 #51

There is a thing called NIMS: National Incident Management System. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2012 #60

I don't understand what you think is happening. nolabear Nov 2012 #70

spot on post +1 not sure what else the OP is expecting, as the pres being around there now would Divine Discontent Nov 2012 #230

He has. They have. What else do you want him to do? You are not a rescue/relief expert but he has uppityperson Nov 2012 #80

Why do you assume he has not already done those things? MineralMan Nov 2012 #257

He hasn't been "off" of Sandy Politicub Nov 2012 #16

Doesn't he have to be re-elected to see the recovery through... Condem Nov 2012 #17

Yeah.. If Rmoney gets elected, Enron, Exxon, or Halliburton will be taking care madinmaryland Nov 2012 #139

he IS on it. he can walk and chew gum at the same time scheming daemons Nov 2012 #19

Thank you, s d. Those things called cells. nm Cha Nov 2012 #155

It would not be helpful for him to go to SI. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #20

not suggesting O needs to go there....just start some show of force (rescue)...and I heard people Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #44

Something does need to be done. Looting is a problem. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #96

Christ on a bicycle, get a grip already. Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #188

they didn't evacuate, so I'm not quite sure why THEY would be pissed. nt progressivebydesign Nov 2012 #203

How are 375000 residence of the city of NY supposed to get up and haul ass in 18 hours which is what hrmjustin Nov 2012 #221

Obama would've been wise tman Nov 2012 #21

I agree. cthulu2016 Nov 2012 #24

I don't see that to a problem. vaberella Nov 2012 #32

I disagree.. I think President Obama is doing exactly Cha Nov 2012 #159

bullshit. He has done extraordinary things. nt progressivebydesign Nov 2012 #204

Oh for Pete's sake. liberalmuse Nov 2012 #23

this OP always does this. scheming daemons Nov 2012 #28

You are officially on my shitlist sd Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #57

I bet he loses sleep on that!!! Condem Nov 2012 #58

you been here for years, supporting each other's ideas, civilly, and then someone you think Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #72

I meant you always panic and blows things out of proportion scheming daemons Nov 2012 #77

How condescending ! Thanks SD Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #84

lol quinnox Nov 2012 #90

but it's true. nt dionysus Nov 2012 #158

Condescending? Yes ProfessorGAC Nov 2012 #253

As I recall, Mr. Bloomberg turned Obama down coming to New York.... Condem Nov 2012 #82

He sure did. Bloomberg didn't even want Obama to go to NYC. LisaL Nov 2012 #92

Bloomberg sucks. I never voted for him. He is ignoring the rest of the city. Manhattan is his game. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #190

Slow down there Laura and take a deep breath. Are you on Staten Island??? madinmaryland Nov 2012 #148

Can I be on it too? jeff47 Nov 2012 #74

Don't you start with that nonsense. Democratopia Nov 2012 #117

+ a gazillion. And then a bazillion more. fugop Nov 2012 #120

All my people in Queens are getting their power back today...gas crisis is the issue alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #27

you mean timber84 Nov 2012 #33

wow. I am so upset. NOT Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #172

Agree with you 1,000% I always forget I have that ignore button. progressivebydesign Nov 2012 #208

Do we have any evidence that he's let up? Curtland1015 Nov 2012 #29

Obama has been on top of the people in NYC. vaberella Nov 2012 #46

FEMA is carrying out Obama's instructions Bjorn Against Nov 2012 #31

ABC News had something as well....but Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #34

They are frustrated. msrizzo Nov 2012 #43

Of course they are frustrated... Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #85

The logistics of getting the POTUS onto Staten Island are almost as bad as trying to get madinmaryland Nov 2012 #153

Marine 1 from NJ? Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #181

Not likely. It could happen, but unfortunately, post 9-11 it is not likely to happen. madinmaryland Nov 2012 #193

When I was a kid Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #242

When I worked in the city, I took the SI Ferry a few times out to SI to see friends. madinmaryland Nov 2012 #264

Yep...but you could ride the SI for a nickle and the others were more expensive.... Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #265

Give Me A Fucking Break SingleSeatBiggerMeat Nov 2012 #37

Here's a story about Staten Island msrizzo Nov 2012 #38

I guess Obama should cancel the NYC marathon nobodyspecial Nov 2012 #49

It's not up to him. LisaL Nov 2012 #59

I know. I was being facetious. nobodyspecial Nov 2012 #103

This message was self-deleted by its author Faith9326 Nov 2012 #61

Staten Islanders are rabid republicans. The northern democratic part is not flooded to bad. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #192

I'm sorry, but at this point, I don't care about their politics. a la izquierda Nov 2012 #252

What do you expect him to do? LisaL Nov 2012 #40

total snark totally uncalled for. Never said he should even go there. But, someone's got Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #69

"someone's got to lead"? You mean like by getting FEMA on the case, by having his people get supplie uppityperson Nov 2012 #83

He is still on it JB126 Nov 2012 #47

Yep. GoCubsGo Nov 2012 #53

You're way out of control in your OP. As a New York resident---I'm embarassed. vaberella Nov 2012 #54

You are embarassed of me? Puleeze. All you had to do was watch the news...like zillions of other Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #67

Watch the news? What do you think I do? I don't only watch the news. vaberella Nov 2012 #136

This is the worst fucking thread I've read here. Calm yourself... progressivebydesign Nov 2012 #207

She Fucking.Lives.In.New.York.City. How dare you. Nt DevonRex Nov 2012 #220

It doesn't matter whose fault it is, Obama will be crucified by Republicans Democratopia Nov 2012 #93

Funny...because Chris Christie and Bloomberg have been giving him much LOVE!! vaberella Nov 2012 #138

He just said during his speech Faith9326 Nov 2012 #63

I think you've had enough ... GeorgeGist Nov 2012 #66

Wow, that's a very intelligent response to a national crisis. Sounds like you are the one Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #142

I actually would not have had a problem with him staying on Sandy up to election day. aaaaaa5a Nov 2012 #73

omg...thank you so much for understanding. Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #79

He's campaigning because Team Romney lies like a rug, largely unchecked by the MSM. CakeGrrl Nov 2012 #99

Good Points, CakeGrrl! PBO's is an awesome multitasker AND Cha Nov 2012 #173

I do trust Axelrod and Plouffe and I trust the President.. they kniow Cha Nov 2012 #167

I trust Axelrod and Plouffe too! nt aaaaaa5a Nov 2012 #169

OMGOSH! I thought you wrote you didn't trust them.. Cha Nov 2012 #174

No problem! We are on the same team! aaaaaa5a Nov 2012 #180

That's what I thought! Cha Nov 2012 #194

I'm pretty sure the gratitude shown by various governors and mayors is all the evidence needed. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #75

My thoughts exactly. Democratopia Nov 2012 #81

Bloomberg didn't want Obama to visit NYC. LisaL Nov 2012 #97

He also endorsed Obama! Obama is President, he can go where he likes. Bloomberg Democratopia Nov 2012 #128

Are you talking about the PRESIDENT??? progressivebydesign Nov 2012 #206

Is there a reason you think Obama's presence is needed? BklnDem75 Nov 2012 #245

Faux and CNN will do their best to find one disgruntled person doc03 Nov 2012 #86

Then he goes everyday to meet victims and gives the media an update. He needs to control the Democratopia Nov 2012 #131

Then they'll whine he's doing classless photo-ops durablend Nov 2012 #250

I don't understand your post. Le Taz Hot Nov 2012 #87

Obama is up against a very aggressive and dishonest right-wing media and candidate. Democratopia Nov 2012 #101

Again, I don't understand. Le Taz Hot Nov 2012 #111

I saw 5 mins of CNN and they made it LOOK like another Katrina. That is the problem. Democratopia Nov 2012 #118

exactly. It was exactly the same. people begging for help Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #121

Obama put the feet on the ground early to prepare for a huge disaster sheshe2 Nov 2012 #88

no where did I criticize Obama. Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #95

okay sheshe2 Nov 2012 #107

Tired of people thinking they know what Obama should and should not do. Our president knows EXACTLY Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2012 #91

don't really care what you are tired of hearing Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #98

Then why reply? Trashing this thread. The president KNOWS what he's doing!! You're not the president Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2012 #102

+ a million quinnox Nov 2012 #106

This is about avoiding the hurricane force that is the Republican spin machine. Democratopia Nov 2012 #105

Early on...maybe it was the first interview...Christie thanked the President for getting IN FRONT libdem4life Nov 2012 #94

agree: Lawrence is covering Staten Island right now: amborin Nov 2012 #104

Napolitano going to Staten Island tomorrow. elleng Nov 2012 #108

thanks for posting that EG Obviously someone somewhere realized it was a very dire Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #123

You're welcome, Laura. elleng Nov 2012 #140

Janet Napolitano is going there tomorrow per Lawrence O'Donnell. Jennicut Nov 2012 #110

thanks J Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #149

I am a bit angry with Bloomberg, but not President Obama. Jennicut Nov 2012 #160

What do you want him to do, specifically? Tree-Hugger Nov 2012 #115

So with Janet going there tomorrow JuveDem Nov 2012 #116

There is no Mayor of just Staten Island. Jennicut Nov 2012 #141

I'm not sure what else he could do SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #119

He can't be there too much. We are days out from an election! Democratopia Nov 2012 #124

So he should park himself in NYC until next Tuesday? n/t SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #127

Again, Bloomberg didn't want him to visit NYC. LisaL Nov 2012 #132

Understood SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #137

Wow, your posts are.....interesting n/t Spazito Nov 2012 #151

I agree entirely with the OP. This is about making sure the Republicans and their propoganda Democratopia Nov 2012 #122

yes, D. It is first and foremost about these poor people. And, you are absolutely right - Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #129

"Most (military) have nothing too important to do"-- TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #227

People aren't starving blazeKing Nov 2012 #126

�We�re going to die! We�re going to freeze!" - This is what voters are seeing and reading Democratopia Nov 2012 #135

And I see a woman in panic mode. And probably suffering from shock. vaberella Nov 2012 #147

Three days on and you say she needs medical attention. Where is it? Not my question, but that is Democratopia Nov 2012 #157

�This is America, not a third world nation. We need food." - what voters are seeing and reading Democratopia Nov 2012 #143

WTF?"...Staten Islanders...Don't donate to the American Red Cross; put their money elsewhere?" haele Nov 2012 #191

It's called a disaster for a reason...... FrenchieCat Nov 2012 #144

You miss the point entirely. Those headlines you suggest are what I want to avoid. Democratopia Nov 2012 #150

The media will always be able to find someone not happy and complaining...... FrenchieCat Nov 2012 #162

would you trade Obama's reelection so he can spend more time up there? CreekDog Nov 2012 #145

The two aren't mutually exclusive. He's got 78% Sandy approval. I want it to stay at least that high Democratopia Nov 2012 #154

Who gives a shit, dude? He'll never be TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #215

FEMA is there EC Nov 2012 #152

It is interesting that Drudge started on this.... Spazito Nov 2012 #156

Have you not seen Romney BLAME Obama for losing jobs in the auto industry? Democratopia Nov 2012 #163

The rabid right wing will exploit anything... Spazito Nov 2012 #171

Yep...... FrenchieCat Nov 2012 #165

Trust me FC, I am 100% aware of the difference between comfort and true and urgent needs. Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #170

Yes, the media, CNN and Fox in particular, are not interested in the people... Spazito Nov 2012 #179

Yeah and DUers more than willing to parrot it them. Nt DevonRex Nov 2012 #205

yes, you HAVE to admit, it's sickening when you hear it on CNN or Drudge and voila, it appears on DU Divine Discontent Nov 2012 #232

Have you been asleep? For days? aquart Nov 2012 #164

I will ignore the rudness. No I haven't been sleeping. No, don't expect Obama should Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #166

At this point, I wouldn't blame ya if you wanted a drink poured quinnox Nov 2012 #176

This message was self-deleted by its author AtomicKitten Nov 2012 #177

There is nothing to indicate that he ever stopped doing his job re:Sandy. n/t Lucinda Nov 2012 #178

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Nov 2012 #183

lol quinnox Nov 2012 #184

Yesterday you were upset at Obama for: TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #189

She was upset about THAT??? LOL!!! DevonRex Nov 2012 #201

Ooops, I replied to myself--thread posted below. TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #211

I swear. DevonRex Nov 2012 #214

Here--even she admits it's kinda crazy: TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #209

Excuse me, but there's an election next B Calm Nov 2012 #195

Unbelievable. It's not like Katrina. It's bad, but they're ON IT... calm down. progressivebydesign Nov 2012 #198

Thank you, progressivebydesign. I hate these freaking rw talking points. Cha Nov 2012 #210

He is one man. LiberalAndProud Nov 2012 #212

Are you sure you're the first to say it? Sounds like something fresh off the Drudge presses. n/t gkhouston Nov 2012 #213

It's Drudge's headline story today. AtomicKitten Nov 2012 #217

Actually, I rarely go there so I didn't know. Not surprised, though. n/t gkhouston Nov 2012 #219

Me neither; I read it upthread. AtomicKitten Nov 2012 #238

He could get in a lot of trouble for that PD Turk Nov 2012 #226

perhaps the only post that needs made for this! lol... I think Obama's been on it since last week Divine Discontent Nov 2012 #233

Are you perhaps failing to realize what "utter devastation" means? countryjake Nov 2012 #236

You should know better than parrot RW talking points. Shameful. nt. OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #240

Staten Island sounds more like South Florida after Wilma than New Orleans after Katrina. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2012 #241

Give it a break already. Obama is on it! RoccoR5955 Nov 2012 #246

Already knew the media would approach it this way. treestar Nov 2012 #249

Fail. WilliamPitt Nov 2012 #254

This is great news ! thanks for posting. I am curious why Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #259

You want to know why? Look up. WilliamPitt Nov 2012 #260

What precisely is he not doing that would give objective and immediate assistance... LanternWaste Nov 2012 #256

Fortunately for the nation, Obama isn't so much of a... backscatter712 Nov 2012 #258

Are you really comparing Hurricane Sandy Wind Dancer Nov 2012 #263

Since no one has bothered to talk you down from the ledge, I will. Lone_Star_Dem Nov 2012 #266

Lots of people did. She didn't listen. Just changed her angle of attack. Nt DevonRex Nov 2012 #269

Pack mentality and peer pressure strike again B2G Nov 2012 #267

You do know that the original version of your OP is still there, right? MineralMan Nov 2012 #268

The poster is doing something I applaud -- disassociating herself from it cthulu2016 Nov 2012 #270

That's one way to look at it. MineralMan Nov 2012 #271

It must have been interesting, albeit controversial with so many replies. lpbk2713 Nov 2012 #272