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In reply to the discussion: Self Deleted [View all]Lone_Star_Dem
(28,158 posts)266. Since no one has bothered to talk you down from the ledge, I will.
Go here to see just how many and how much military support the victims of Sandy are getting from the DoD.
http://www.defense.gov/home/features/2012/1012_sandy/
Here's a few headlines.
Quartermaster Soldiers New York-bound
Sailors, Marines Join USS Wasp for Sandy Relief
DOD Continues Support for Hurricane Sandy Response Efforts
FEMA Employs Air Guard Base for Storm Relief
West Coast Airmen Support Superstorm Sandy Relief Efforts
Coast Guard Responds to Superstorm Sandy Damage
There's plenty of coverage in the media of the aid pouring in and Obama's help in that area. Here's a quick and recent example.
In N.J., FEMA forming network of aid centers
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State and local officials will help determine where the FEMA centers are put, Fugate said.
By Thursday morning, more than 36,000 storm victims from New Jersey, New York, and Connecticut had applied for federal disaster assistance, and more than $3.4 million in aid had been approved for some of them, President Obama's spokesman Jay Carney said.
Gov. Christie sent state police to help protect hard-hit Shore towns from looters. State Attorney General Jeffrey Chiesa vowed looters would face stiff penalties.
"We want those hardest hit by Sandy to know that there is an increased police presence in these Shore communities and that we will be vigilant with respect to their homes and businesses while they are forced to remain inland for their safety," Chiesa said. "At this time, fortunately, we have not received reports of any extensive looting."
The Obama administration said Thursday it would provide about $16 million to hire 1,000 temporary workers in New Jersey to aid with storm cleanup. The money will go toward work on public structures as well as the delivery of humanitarian aid.
The administration also said it would give $10 million to New Jersey for emergency road repairs and reimburse 100 percent of the cost of emergency power and public transportation through Nov. 9 in the New Jersey counties covered under the expanding federal disaster declaration.
That's an increase from the standard 75 percent share the federal
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/new_jersey/20121102_In_N_J___FEMA_forming_network_of_aid_centers.html
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State and local officials will help determine where the FEMA centers are put, Fugate said.
By Thursday morning, more than 36,000 storm victims from New Jersey, New York, and Connecticut had applied for federal disaster assistance, and more than $3.4 million in aid had been approved for some of them, President Obama's spokesman Jay Carney said.
Gov. Christie sent state police to help protect hard-hit Shore towns from looters. State Attorney General Jeffrey Chiesa vowed looters would face stiff penalties.
"We want those hardest hit by Sandy to know that there is an increased police presence in these Shore communities and that we will be vigilant with respect to their homes and businesses while they are forced to remain inland for their safety," Chiesa said. "At this time, fortunately, we have not received reports of any extensive looting."
The Obama administration said Thursday it would provide about $16 million to hire 1,000 temporary workers in New Jersey to aid with storm cleanup. The money will go toward work on public structures as well as the delivery of humanitarian aid.
The administration also said it would give $10 million to New Jersey for emergency road repairs and reimburse 100 percent of the cost of emergency power and public transportation through Nov. 9 in the New Jersey counties covered under the expanding federal disaster declaration.
That's an increase from the standard 75 percent share the federal
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/new_jersey/20121102_In_N_J___FEMA_forming_network_of_aid_centers.html
Then there's this:
WaPo-ABC tracking poll: High marks for President Obama on Hurricane Sandy response
Nearly eight in 10 likely voters say the president has done an excellent or good job dealing with whats been labeled a super storm. Almost as many give positive reviews to the federal governments response generally. Even two-thirds of those who support Republican Mitt Romney in next weeks presidential election say Obama is doing well in this area.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2012/10/31/wapo-abc-tracking-poll-high-marks-for-president-obama-on-hurricane-sandy-response/
Nearly eight in 10 likely voters say the president has done an excellent or good job dealing with whats been labeled a super storm. Almost as many give positive reviews to the federal governments response generally. Even two-thirds of those who support Republican Mitt Romney in next weeks presidential election say Obama is doing well in this area.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2012/10/31/wapo-abc-tracking-poll-high-marks-for-president-obama-on-hurricane-sandy-response/
Now for a real explanation as to why you're seeing what your seeing on cable infotainment programs. They were counting on Benghazi being something they could spin to create some flack for the president in this last stretch before the election. However, Sandy came and they were worried they'd lost all hope of creating a distraction which would resonate with voters. So, initially this was their planned way to link the two.
Daily Disclosure: Conservative outside ads spin Obamas Sandy response
With President Barack Obama earning high marks on his response to Hurricane Sandy, conservative outside spending groups and Republicans are seeking to contrast it with charges that he dropped the ball in Benghazi.
Americans for Limited Governments Obama Campaign Has Its Perfect Storm and Campaign for American Values PACs Obama Has Left Americans Behind follow the line of attack launched by Michael Brown, the director of FEMA under George W. Bush, who was widely criticized for botching the response to Hurricane Katrina in 2005.
While the new ads do not go quite as far as Brown, who charged the president with acting too quickly on the response to Sandy, they do capitalize on his juxtaposition of the presidents response to Sandy and his response to the terrorist attack on the American consulate in Libya.
Obama was openly working with New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie during hurricane recovery, the ALG ad begins. Christie, a Republican with presidential aspirations, heaped praise on the president for his response, which was seen as a hit to GOP nominee Mitt Romney.
http://www.publicintegrity.org/2012/11/02/11683/daily-disclosure-conservative-outside-ads-spin-obama-s-sandy-response
With President Barack Obama earning high marks on his response to Hurricane Sandy, conservative outside spending groups and Republicans are seeking to contrast it with charges that he dropped the ball in Benghazi.
Americans for Limited Governments Obama Campaign Has Its Perfect Storm and Campaign for American Values PACs Obama Has Left Americans Behind follow the line of attack launched by Michael Brown, the director of FEMA under George W. Bush, who was widely criticized for botching the response to Hurricane Katrina in 2005.
While the new ads do not go quite as far as Brown, who charged the president with acting too quickly on the response to Sandy, they do capitalize on his juxtaposition of the presidents response to Sandy and his response to the terrorist attack on the American consulate in Libya.
Obama was openly working with New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie during hurricane recovery, the ALG ad begins. Christie, a Republican with presidential aspirations, heaped praise on the president for his response, which was seen as a hit to GOP nominee Mitt Romney.
http://www.publicintegrity.org/2012/11/02/11683/daily-disclosure-conservative-outside-ads-spin-obama-s-sandy-response
However, facts were released which took all the wind out of that plans sails.
U.S. says CIA responded within 25 minutes to Benghazi attack
Intelligence officials dispute a report by Fox News that officers in Libya were ordered to 'stand down' after the diplomatic compound came under attack.
WASHINGTON CIA security officers in a Benghazi post responded within 25 minutes to a call for help from a nearby State Department compound after it came under attack Sept. 11, officials said Thursday, seeking to refute a Fox News report asserting that CIA managers ordered them to stay put.
In releasing a detailed timeline of CIA actions that night, senior intelligence officials have put aside long-standing concerns about revealing the extent of the agency's presence in Benghazi in order to push back against what officials say are baseless allegations that aid was withheld.
"At every level in the chain of command, from the senior officers in Libya to the most senior officials in Washington, everyone was fully engaged in trying to provide whatever help they could," a senior intelligence official said in a statement. "There were no orders to anybody to stand down in providing support."
Fox News asserted in a story last week that CIA managers had ordered agency security officers to "stand down" and remain in their own facility, known as the Annex, when the attack on the diplomatic compound began about 9:40 p.m. and that there was an hour delay before officers disobeyed orders and went to help repel the attack that killed Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens and State Department officer Sean Smith.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-libya-cia-20121102,0,2438659.story
Intelligence officials dispute a report by Fox News that officers in Libya were ordered to 'stand down' after the diplomatic compound came under attack.
WASHINGTON CIA security officers in a Benghazi post responded within 25 minutes to a call for help from a nearby State Department compound after it came under attack Sept. 11, officials said Thursday, seeking to refute a Fox News report asserting that CIA managers ordered them to stay put.
In releasing a detailed timeline of CIA actions that night, senior intelligence officials have put aside long-standing concerns about revealing the extent of the agency's presence in Benghazi in order to push back against what officials say are baseless allegations that aid was withheld.
"At every level in the chain of command, from the senior officers in Libya to the most senior officials in Washington, everyone was fully engaged in trying to provide whatever help they could," a senior intelligence official said in a statement. "There were no orders to anybody to stand down in providing support."
Fox News asserted in a story last week that CIA managers had ordered agency security officers to "stand down" and remain in their own facility, known as the Annex, when the attack on the diplomatic compound began about 9:40 p.m. and that there was an hour delay before officers disobeyed orders and went to help repel the attack that killed Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens and State Department officer Sean Smith.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-libya-cia-20121102,0,2438659.story
Now they're reduced to trying to attack Obama's response to hurricane Sandy and sensationalize that instead.
My suggestion to you, turn off all cable news until after the election. Maybe make a few calls for the campaign, or for a local race, even. That always gets my head cleared all of the political poop and makes me feel better.
Oh, and there's a reason this video resonated with people on both sides of the party divide. We're so sick of all this crap we could all just about break down and cry.
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Hang in there. It's almost over!
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It surely doesn't sound like someone's on it....if you watch the people pleading on TV. Maybe
Laura PourMeADrink
Nov 2012
#4
I'd also like to mention that the folks who are in serious trouble right now...
eqfan592
Nov 2012
#15
I saw CNN as I was in line at the bank and it LOOKED like Katrina all over again.
Democratopia
Nov 2012
#112
what's funny is that the people screaming for help are very likely republicans...
BlueMan Votes
Nov 2012
#196
Keep politics out of this discussion.. Helping people during a terrible disaster is not contingent
crunch60
Nov 2012
#229
Pardon my french but I don't give a fuck who's fault it is - people are really
Laura PourMeADrink
Nov 2012
#8
Yeah...he has been to Staten Island..but I heard there is confusion between all the manpower.
vaberella
Nov 2012
#41
Just get the military to get them off the island (if they want) stick them in a hotel.
Democratopia
Nov 2012
#109
That is up to local leaders hear. Obama can just keep mentioning in his stump speeches.
hrmjustin
Nov 2012
#182
I say this with respect but he cannot perform magic. There's no easy and fast way.
nolabear
Nov 2012
#45
I agree. I lived in NOLA for three years, I understand, and people who have lost understand that
Laura PourMeADrink
Nov 2012
#134
You don't care whose fault it is, but just want Obama to fix everything now? What would you like
uppityperson
Nov 2012
#76
Bologna! There are many reasons why people don't evacuate when advised. You sound like a hard butt
crunch60
Nov 2012
#231
He's given his orders, will learn about Staten Island when he returns 'home' or wherever tonight,
elleng
Nov 2012
#3
give me a break. 72 hours and you want heaven and earth moved just like that???
progressivebydesign
Nov 2012
#200
You seem to ignore everything the poster said which is 100% valid though. n/t
vaberella
Nov 2012
#25
What??? I hope you know me well enough to know it's to see Obama reelected
Laura PourMeADrink
Nov 2012
#50
50 Billion in damages not to mention the economic impact that will go on for roughly 3 weeks.
vaberella
Nov 2012
#197
I read in another thread a report saying 250 billion according to insurers...nt
Mojorabbit
Nov 2012
#225
I am sorry but I think they could put it off for the week. Our city needs to put our efforts on
hrmjustin
Nov 2012
#185
Presumably it could have been moved to the next Sunday and brought in the same money.
LisaL
Nov 2012
#78
No, I do not. Just want something bigger than the states can provide to help these people
Laura PourMeADrink
Nov 2012
#89
He doesn't have to go there...but he can call in navy/coast guard to bring in supplies.
Laura PourMeADrink
Nov 2012
#39
There is a thing called NIMS: National Incident Management System.
The Velveteen Ocelot
Nov 2012
#60
spot on post +1 not sure what else the OP is expecting, as the pres being around there now would
Divine Discontent
Nov 2012
#230
He has. They have. What else do you want him to do? You are not a rescue/relief expert but he has
uppityperson
Nov 2012
#80
Yeah.. If Rmoney gets elected, Enron, Exxon, or Halliburton will be taking care
madinmaryland
Nov 2012
#139
not suggesting O needs to go there....just start some show of force (rescue)...and I heard people
Laura PourMeADrink
Nov 2012
#44
they didn't evacuate, so I'm not quite sure why THEY would be pissed. nt
progressivebydesign
Nov 2012
#203
How are 375000 residence of the city of NY supposed to get up and haul ass in 18 hours which is what
hrmjustin
Nov 2012
#221
you been here for years, supporting each other's ideas, civilly, and then someone you think
Laura PourMeADrink
Nov 2012
#72
Bloomberg sucks. I never voted for him. He is ignoring the rest of the city. Manhattan is his game.
hrmjustin
Nov 2012
#190
Slow down there Laura and take a deep breath. Are you on Staten Island???
madinmaryland
Nov 2012
#148
All my people in Queens are getting their power back today...gas crisis is the issue
alcibiades_mystery
Nov 2012
#27
The logistics of getting the POTUS onto Staten Island are almost as bad as trying to get
madinmaryland
Nov 2012
#153
Not likely. It could happen, but unfortunately, post 9-11 it is not likely to happen.
madinmaryland
Nov 2012
#193
When I worked in the city, I took the SI Ferry a few times out to SI to see friends.
madinmaryland
Nov 2012
#264
Yep...but you could ride the SI for a nickle and the others were more expensive....
Sekhmets Daughter
Nov 2012
#265
Staten Islanders are rabid republicans. The northern democratic part is not flooded to bad.
hrmjustin
Nov 2012
#192
total snark totally uncalled for. Never said he should even go there. But, someone's got
Laura PourMeADrink
Nov 2012
#69
"someone's got to lead"? You mean like by getting FEMA on the case, by having his people get supplie
uppityperson
Nov 2012
#83
You're way out of control in your OP. As a New York resident---I'm embarassed.
vaberella
Nov 2012
#54
You are embarassed of me? Puleeze. All you had to do was watch the news...like zillions of other
Laura PourMeADrink
Nov 2012
#67
It doesn't matter whose fault it is, Obama will be crucified by Republicans
Democratopia
Nov 2012
#93
Funny...because Chris Christie and Bloomberg have been giving him much LOVE!!
vaberella
Nov 2012
#138
Wow, that's a very intelligent response to a national crisis. Sounds like you are the one
Laura PourMeADrink
Nov 2012
#142
I actually would not have had a problem with him staying on Sandy up to election day.
aaaaaa5a
Nov 2012
#73
He's campaigning because Team Romney lies like a rug, largely unchecked by the MSM.
CakeGrrl
Nov 2012
#99
I'm pretty sure the gratitude shown by various governors and mayors is all the evidence needed.
WinkyDink
Nov 2012
#75
He also endorsed Obama! Obama is President, he can go where he likes. Bloomberg
Democratopia
Nov 2012
#128
Then he goes everyday to meet victims and gives the media an update. He needs to control the
Democratopia
Nov 2012
#131
Obama is up against a very aggressive and dishonest right-wing media and candidate.
Democratopia
Nov 2012
#101
I saw 5 mins of CNN and they made it LOOK like another Katrina. That is the problem.
Democratopia
Nov 2012
#118
Tired of people thinking they know what Obama should and should not do. Our president knows EXACTLY
Liberal_Stalwart71
Nov 2012
#91
Then why reply? Trashing this thread. The president KNOWS what he's doing!! You're not the president
Liberal_Stalwart71
Nov 2012
#102
This is about avoiding the hurricane force that is the Republican spin machine.
Democratopia
Nov 2012
#105
Early on...maybe it was the first interview...Christie thanked the President for getting IN FRONT
libdem4life
Nov 2012
#94
thanks for posting that EG Obviously someone somewhere realized it was a very dire
Laura PourMeADrink
Nov 2012
#123
I agree entirely with the OP. This is about making sure the Republicans and their propoganda
Democratopia
Nov 2012
#122
yes, D. It is first and foremost about these poor people. And, you are absolutely right -
Laura PourMeADrink
Nov 2012
#129
“We’re going to die! We’re going to freeze!" - This is what voters are seeing and reading
Democratopia
Nov 2012
#135
Three days on and you say she needs medical attention. Where is it? Not my question, but that is
Democratopia
Nov 2012
#157
“This is America, not a third world nation. We need food." - what voters are seeing and reading
Democratopia
Nov 2012
#143
WTF?"...Staten Islanders...Don't donate to the American Red Cross; put their money elsewhere?"
haele
Nov 2012
#191
You miss the point entirely. Those headlines you suggest are what I want to avoid.
Democratopia
Nov 2012
#150
The media will always be able to find someone not happy and complaining......
FrenchieCat
Nov 2012
#162
The two aren't mutually exclusive. He's got 78% Sandy approval. I want it to stay at least that high
Democratopia
Nov 2012
#154
Have you not seen Romney BLAME Obama for losing jobs in the auto industry?
Democratopia
Nov 2012
#163
Trust me FC, I am 100% aware of the difference between comfort and true and urgent needs.
Laura PourMeADrink
Nov 2012
#170
Yes, the media, CNN and Fox in particular, are not interested in the people...
Spazito
Nov 2012
#179
yes, you HAVE to admit, it's sickening when you hear it on CNN or Drudge and voila, it appears on DU
Divine Discontent
Nov 2012
#232
I will ignore the rudness. No I haven't been sleeping. No, don't expect Obama should
Laura PourMeADrink
Nov 2012
#166
Unbelievable. It's not like Katrina. It's bad, but they're ON IT... calm down.
progressivebydesign
Nov 2012
#198
Are you sure you're the first to say it? Sounds like something fresh off the Drudge presses. n/t
gkhouston
Nov 2012
#213
perhaps the only post that needs made for this! lol... I think Obama's been on it since last week
Divine Discontent
Nov 2012
#233
Staten Island sounds more like South Florida after Wilma than New Orleans after Katrina.
Tommy_Carcetti
Nov 2012
#241
What precisely is he not doing that would give objective and immediate assistance...
LanternWaste
Nov 2012
#256