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Novara

(6,115 posts)
4. Naw, the hardcore cultists will never change their minds
Sun Jul 17, 2022, 06:53 AM
Jul 2022

But I do think a lot of people can be peeled off by the overwhelming facts and when indictments start happening.

When the DOJ starts indicting people and convictions start coming, there's an air of legitimacy the legal system confers that the hearings - as good as they are - can't. Right now, the hearings are designed to tell the story. And they are doing a fantastic job. However, there will be more legitimacy and a "huh, there must be something to this" when the DOJ starts indicting the people close to the top. Hopefully there will be perp walks.

Remember Watergate? The revelations of the hearings shocked people. The arrests convinced people there was real criminality. Granted, we didn't have a crazy faction insisting on a nonexistent reality back then, but people's minds began to really be changed when arrests were made.

However, people need to prepare themselves that it isn't likely the orange fuck will be indicted until lower level people have been, and they begin to talk and deal to save their own asses. This is going to take time. They won't deal until they feel reality pushing them into a prison cell. Right now they don't. See: Navarro. When everyone at the top who was involved have been indicted and rumors circulate that people are giving each other up, then they'll talk, and only after that will they arrest the orange fuck. They'll protect each other and him until they realize it's better to give everybody else up.

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From your lips.... er, keyboard. secondwind Jul 2022 #1
The select committee has no prosecutorial power. gab13by13 Jul 2022 #2
I know that. Everyone knows that. fightforfreedom Jul 2022 #3
Not "everyone" knows much of anything. Fux Nooze is causing this. BComplex Jul 2022 #52
Naw, the hardcore cultists will never change their minds Novara Jul 2022 #4
The hardcore mindset Septua Jul 2022 #15
Yes, a cult. Novara Jul 2022 #16
First Word I Thought Of, Too ProfessorGAC Jul 2022 #43
Wow. Ring of truth. First explanation that actually makes sense to me. Joinfortmill Jul 2022 #21
There's also the 'poorly educated', who suddenly feel like they're the ones who are 'in the know' 70sEraVet Jul 2022 #27
Yup. Joinfortmill Jul 2022 #19
People who refuse to listen to what is being learned from the hearings are traitors RAB910 Jul 2022 #5
Yes, I think many ARE "terrified of the truth" PatSeg Jul 2022 #6
They will only believe there was a coup if these people involved get prison time. Bluethroughu Jul 2022 #7
They're denialists, plain & simple. lastlib Jul 2022 #8
One-sided DemUnleashed Jul 2022 #9
The hearings will only reach a very small percentage doc03 Jul 2022 #10
It is very hard for people to admit they got scammed ashredux Jul 2022 #11
Yes, the police, D.A.'s and law enforcement in general agree: the biggest issue with scammers... machoneman Jul 2022 #17
I use to work with a guy who thought Nixon Emile Jul 2022 #12
Nixon was a saint compared to Trump Zambero Jul 2022 #18
I worked with a guy who said, after Nixon resigned, wnylib Jul 2022 #37
"It's all democrat propaganda" or "they're just out to get Trump" were the reactions from a couple sop Jul 2022 #13
Thank you for this... Joinfortmill Jul 2022 #14
their world is a house of cards sindri Jul 2022 #20
Yup. Joinfortmill Jul 2022 #22
Thanks hennyohio Jul 2022 #23
for a thousand henny llashram Jul 2022 #39
good one llashram Jul 2022 #44
It's the nature of a delusion Seinan Sensei Jul 2022 #24
"They know something is wrong but they are terrified of the truth." Septua Jul 2022 #25
I'm glad to see you spoke "to" a Trump supporter Mr. Ected Jul 2022 #26
They are deeply, intensely in love with donald trump. mwb970 Jul 2022 #28
Yeah, look what religion did to wnylib Jul 2022 #38
Not getting it, sorry. mwb970 Jul 2022 #46
You know what they say about denial. calimary Jul 2022 #29
I have no faith that Garland will ever prosecute T***p. infullview Jul 2022 #30
They are truly brainwashed liberal N proud Jul 2022 #31
They have been led like a bull with a ring in its nose. Historic NY Jul 2022 #32
The hearings are VERY one sided KentuckyWoman Jul 2022 #33
For those of us that are old enough to remember Jonestown and the hundreds that killed their..... usaf-vet Jul 2022 #34
Sounds like some Trump voters I know. Brains not just paused, but dead and embalmed. highplainsdem Jul 2022 #35
If it's so one sided, why is that the people telling us trump did something wrong testify under oath Victor_c3 Jul 2022 #36
I would be utterly nonplussed if some random stranger stopped me while I was walking my dog to ask i BlackSkimmer Jul 2022 #40
The hearings are not political. fightforfreedom Jul 2022 #47
"the hearings are not political." BlackSkimmer Jul 2022 #50
Look at the bright side Sympthsical Jul 2022 #57
I guess I'm missing something. BlackSkimmer Jul 2022 #58
I don't know about llashram Jul 2022 #41
A lot of Trump voters could be won over gulliver Jul 2022 #42
"In time, it will be very hard to find a Trump voter." Javaman Jul 2022 #45
You get it. fightforfreedom Jul 2022 #48
It's hard to imagine tRump coming out of this smelling better... Blue Owl Jul 2022 #49
We really found out how many tens of millions Sky Jewels Jul 2022 #51
Maybe part of it (refusal to accept reality) is that they would have to look at themselves. Dan Jul 2022 #53
There is a reason they oppose woke culture --they prefer to stay asleep. Hassler Jul 2022 #54
Wait a minute EnergizedLib Jul 2022 #55
Unless Trump is put where he belongs sellitman Jul 2022 #56
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