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Mariana

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60. Wow, it really has become a reflex for religious people

Mon Jul 18, 2022, 01:51 PM

Jul 2022

to pretend that any discussion or question about religious beliefs equals an attack on religious people. Even in a context like this, they flatly refuse to address your question about specific beliefs, and answer as if you asked about people.

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The God Gap Helps Explain a 'Seismic Shift' in American Politics [View all] brooklynite Jul 2022 OP

Oh great let's just surrender on the culture war front Voltaire2 Jul 2022 #1

Look in Cleveland Black voters and workers are mostly Christian...they are awesome and the Demsrule86 Jul 2022 #18

Why do you assume 'god' implies 'christian'? Voltaire2 Jul 2022 #50

A lot of B.S. in this piece. Christian or not, when black people go to the voting booth.... marmar Jul 2022 #2

The choice is not "secular" vs "christian fundamentalist" brooklynite Jul 2022 #7

Thanks. There's a lot of ignorance about American religion here at DU. nt LAS14 Jul 2022 #31

What in the galloping fuck does this even mean: Act_of_Reparation Jul 2022 #3

When they return the favor. Lochloosa Jul 2022 #4

Yep. Won't hold my breath for any recipocity. Sky Jewels Jul 2022 #39

Not aiming this at ANYONE here SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2022 #8

Disagreement becomes mockery in the ears of the criticized. n/t aocommunalpunch Jul 2022 #13

In some cases, yes SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2022 #14

Whether criticism (diplomatic or insulting) comes up depends on how far a conversation goes Silent3 Jul 2022 #29

This Sky Jewels Jul 2022 #40

I have met atheists who will make the sky daddy speech unbidden. shrike3 Jul 2022 #52

"The Bible belt" Act_of_Reparation Jul 2022 #90

Then I guess my experience with atheists is normal? shrike3 Jul 2022 #91

Did I give you the "sky daddy speech unbidden"? Act_of_Reparation Jul 2022 #93

Lighten up, dude. shrike3 Jul 2022 #94

I'm light. Act_of_Reparation Jul 2022 #95

Nailed it. nt BlackSkimmer Jul 2022 #45

Except when it's actual, offensive mockery. lapucelle Jul 2022 #15

Oh, the poor pope. Sky Jewels Jul 2022 #41

What are you even talking about? lapucelle Jul 2022 #44

I've seen outright mockery treestar Jul 2022 #26

I agree with this, yes. shrike3 Jul 2022 #53

"The Democrats need the votes of some believers." Act_of_Reparation Jul 2022 #77

There you have it then treestar Jul 2022 #79

Alienate them from who? Act_of_Reparation Jul 2022 #82

the Democrats? treestar Jul 2022 #87

Alright, let's unpack this. Act_of_Reparation Jul 2022 #89

I think the OP article is fairly clear in its meaning. Act_of_Reparation Jul 2022 #16

Thank you...there was a recent thread that had it been about anyone but Christians would not Demsrule86 Jul 2022 #22

That is exactly correct. Demsrule86 Jul 2022 #19

Please elaborate. Act_of_Reparation Jul 2022 #24

Joe Biden? Bill Clinton? Hillary Clinton? Elizabeth Warren? nt LAS14 Jul 2022 #32

The poster asked about beliefs, not people. Mariana Jul 2022 #57

I will not attack Duer's here...even ones I disagree with...but if you use the search...you will see Demsrule86 Jul 2022 #42

I didn't ask you to attack anyone. Act_of_Reparation Jul 2022 #55

Wow, it really has become a reflex for religious people Mariana Jul 2022 #60

There can be a respect for religious beliefs ck4829 Jul 2022 #5

So because we believe in separation of church and state we are hostile to religion? Walleye Jul 2022 #6

What I have seen here and other places is not the separation thing...it is an all out attack Demsrule86 Jul 2022 #20

Of course both can be true that's the point. The resentment comes when it's forced on us Walleye Jul 2022 #36

So, we should accept the coming theocracy with Bettie Jul 2022 #9

That is not what was said...it merely pointed out that driving allies that agree with us Demsrule86 Jul 2022 #21

Religion doesn't belong in politics Bettie Jul 2022 #28

If they believe that their religious beliefs should be law, then they aren't allies. Mariana Jul 2022 #61

I do not see why that is a controversial statement Bettie Jul 2022 #62

It shouldn't be controversial or offensive. Mariana Jul 2022 #65

This message was self-deleted by its author Deminpenn Jul 2022 #10

The difference is, black xtians don't think religion should permeate politics Novara Jul 2022 #11

This. marmar Jul 2022 #12

President Joe Biden and Speaker Pelosi are both white Catholics. lapucelle Jul 2022 #17

I don't think Pelosi's been physically denied communion. The archbishop of her diocese threw a hissy shrike3 Jul 2022 #54

I don't think Speaker Pelosi has given the grandstanding archbishop the actual oppotunity lapucelle Jul 2022 #56

My point was, she has not been physically denied communion. shrike3 Jul 2022 #58

Actually, President Biden asked the Pope if he were allowed to take communion, lapucelle Jul 2022 #63

This was before he was president. shrike3 Jul 2022 #80

Yes I know. lapucelle Jul 2022 #84

And about that term "xtians"... lapucelle Jul 2022 #27

I find the whole religion deeply offensive. Novara Jul 2022 #47

You are entitled to be on the record as "finding [a] whole religion deeply offensive". lapucelle Jul 2022 #59

Yes, if they think that their religion Bettie Jul 2022 #30

I'm old as dirt, and I STILL say eff Religious Zeolots from our Culture. msfiddlestix Jul 2022 #23

I am an Episcopalean. We believe in Gay marriage and our clergy marry everyone... Demsrule86 Jul 2022 #25

If LGBT people ran around saying because of God dsc Jul 2022 #33

There's Religion - and then there's superstitious crap, such as LeftinOH Jul 2022 #34

The God Gap is partially why the GOP led culture wars works for them andym Jul 2022 #35

Unfortunately religion goes also hand-in-hand with sexism Walleye Jul 2022 #38

Sexism as well as other isms are part and parcel of traditionalism andym Jul 2022 #43

Sexism, homophobia, transphobia, hatred of unbelievers, etc. etc. etc. Mariana Jul 2022 #66

White male writer says what now? intheflow Jul 2022 #37

Many Latinos can "pass as white which allows them to more closely identify with white supremacists"? lapucelle Jul 2022 #46

Google Nick Fuentes. n/t Coventina Jul 2022 #48

Why? Does he in any way represent Latinos? N/T lapucelle Jul 2022 #64

No, he is a Latino who is a white nationalist. See also Ted Cruz. Coventina Jul 2022 #67

Four is "many"? lapucelle Jul 2022 #69

I never tried to say how many is "many". I apologize for any lack of clarity. Coventina Jul 2022 #71

There are all sorts of horrible people, and I have no doubt they exist lapucelle Jul 2022 #74

On that, I couldn't tell you. Coventina Jul 2022 #75

This David French? The bigot one? dpibel Jul 2022 #49

Yeah that theocratic fascist. Voltaire2 Jul 2022 #51

This guy? lapucelle Jul 2022 #68

Meaning what? dpibel Jul 2022 #70

Meaning simply that I went to the wki link you provided for a more complete picture, lapucelle Jul 2022 #72

Sure. Act_of_Reparation Jul 2022 #78

the framing of the quoted lines suggested it was not a mainstream or left-leaning writer LymphocyteLover Jul 2022 #73

Anti-choice, too Rob H. Jul 2022 #76

When David French says "traditional, orthodox Christian values" Act_of_Reparation Jul 2022 #81

Oh, okay an article by a self-described conservative theologian. blue neen Jul 2022 #83

Fuck religion vercetti2021 Jul 2022 #85

Isn't that how black slaves were indoctrinated? How they were kept in line with the "fear of God?" Samrob Jul 2022 #86

'Hard left cultural positions' where is my dog? Voltaire2 Jul 2022 #88

Very Informative Baggies Jul 2022 #92