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Chainfire

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11. It is a matter of people trying to snatch simple solutions out of thin air without thinking.
Wed Jul 20, 2022, 05:34 PM
Jul 2022

So, would you approve of my suggestion for rationing power to people in cities, while I do without gasoline? Perhaps you could buy vouchers from your neighbor so that you can run your heat on even and odd days during those long cold Winters. Perhaps doing away with hot water to bathe and eating cold food would help. You could do that starting today. Perhaps we could shut down the subways and people could walk to work...We could open the windows in the high-rises and do away with their internal climate control; think of the power that would save.

Until a viable system of transportation, using alternative fuels, you wont get much change. After all, it is not my driving to the grocery that does the biggest part of the pollution, I drive a KIA... it is hauling your food from the fields to the grocery store and hauling your Chinese knick-knacks from China to California, and from California to you home sweet home. It is the cement production facilities that make the products build the buildings you live in, and on and on. You can't fix climate change by curtailing personal driving.

My point is, is that it is a complex problem of not only mechanics, but politics, that will not be fixed by knee-jerk solutions. Yours or mine.

There are things that could be done if we had the political will. We mandate high mileage vehicles only and do away with the person who drives a 3/4 ton diesel pickup to his office job. We don't have the political will. It is my opinion that we will not have the political will when Miami is a man-made reef, or when Las Vegas has returned to the sand dunes from which it sprang either. We are a nation that can't even universally agree that man-made climate change or Covid is real....


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I could make some bank on this gratuitous Jul 2022 #1
Rationing happens when you have shortages. former9thward Jul 2022 #2
I guess the planet boiling isn't reason enough. Scrivener7 Jul 2022 #3
It's pretty obvious the only way to stop climate change is draconian measures NickB79 Jul 2022 #27
Nuclear is the way. robodruid1 Jul 2022 #34
It's more like obnoxiousdrunk Jul 2022 #4
I remember the rationing in the '70s. discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2022 #5
So you want us to get annihilated in the midterms? DetroitLegalBeagle Jul 2022 #6
I guess you could abandon rural America, and bring us all to where mass transportation is available Chainfire Jul 2022 #7
Not advocating for rationing meadowlander Jul 2022 #8
Great response inthewind21 Jul 2022 #9
It is a matter of people trying to snatch simple solutions out of thin air without thinking. Chainfire Jul 2022 #11
Well said n/t SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2022 #12
As I said in my previous post, meadowlander Jul 2022 #13
How well did 'sacrifices' go over for Carter? Very poorly in fact. We have a good chance for the Demsrule86 Jul 2022 #15
"Ask not what your country can do for you" went over pretty well for Kennedy. meadowlander Jul 2022 #18
Kennedy less than one term- was assassinated and despiste the adualation here. I think Johnson was Demsrule86 Jul 2022 #19
The people are there meadowlander Jul 2022 #21
No, they say it but it is not a voting issue...rationing would be like a lead balloon and we would Demsrule86 Jul 2022 #24
In California rural areas are the only places with affordable housing ripcord Jul 2022 #28
You literally haven't read a single thing that I said. meadowlander Jul 2022 #29
Absolutely not. Demsrule86 Jul 2022 #16
We do not have a public will. I wish we did but we don't. Demsrule86 Jul 2022 #17
Are you saying you couldn't find a way to cut your gasoline use by 15%? rgbecker Jul 2022 #26
People did barter for rationing stamps during WW2. roamer65 Jul 2022 #20
No thanks n/t SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2022 #10
Fuck no...that is just nuts. Demsrule86 Jul 2022 #14
That will hand Republicans the election iemanja Jul 2022 #22
As a member of the "Not Losing in November" wing of the party Sympthsical Jul 2022 #23
I wouldn't worry too much. roamer65 Jul 2022 #25
Gas prices have dropped by over a dollar recently where I live Kaleva Jul 2022 #30
Same in mine (mid-size metro area). TheBeam19 Jul 2022 #33
Rationing requires a shared unity of purpose within society Model35mech Jul 2022 #31
There are no shortages Bettie Jul 2022 #32
Cute! Baggies Jul 2022 #35
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