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1. She is also still wrong on what the problem was

Thu Jul 21, 2022, 08:56 AM

Jul 2022

it isn't that Franken, or anyone for that matter, have a due process expectation to be in elected positions, it is that the people who elected them have a due process right for their choice to be respected. MN lost a bunch of seniority when he was forced out. They also lost the person they chose not once but twice to be their senator with nary a thought as to what they did or didn't want.

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I Was Wrong About Al Franken by Michelle Goldberg [View all] PatSeg Jul 2022 OP

She is also still wrong on what the problem was dsc Jul 2022 #1

Good point PatSeg Jul 2022 #11

5, 4, 3, 2, 1: How many Michelle Goldbergs continue to regurgitate her original points, unevolved hlthe2b Jul 2022 #2

Nope, I won't forget PatSeg Jul 2022 #12

I know, there was NO apology that I heard. a kennedy Jul 2022 #51

Maybe she thought THIS was an apology PatSeg Jul 2022 #56

Let us not forget inthewind21 Jul 2022 #72

I totally agree PatSeg Jul 2022 #84

+1 2naSalit Jul 2022 #27

Goldberg also wanted to give Juanita Broaddrick the benefit of the doubt. Tommy Carcetti Jul 2022 #3

Maybe Goldberg needs to go back into therapy..... FarPoint Jul 2022 #5

I agree PatSeg Jul 2022 #14

I totally agree.... FarPoint Jul 2022 #63

And recently she wrote an article PatSeg Jul 2022 #6

As an assault survivor, I find Broaddrick disgusting. shrike3 Jul 2022 #30

She's gone out of her way to immediately attack any accusers of right wing figures. Tommy Carcetti Jul 2022 #32

Exactly. Why I find her disgusting. shrike3 Jul 2022 #34

That's not an admission. She's making it worse. She should just stfu about it. Solomon Jul 2022 #4

Exactly PatSeg Jul 2022 #8

Yep. n/t shrike3 Jul 2022 #31

+1 2naSalit Jul 2022 #28

"overwhelmingly likely" nuxvomica Jul 2022 #7

Yep, lots of "weasel words" PatSeg Jul 2022 #10

She consistently disappoints (n/t) PJMcK Jul 2022 #9

Punditry - Where you can be wrong all the time and still keep your job Sympthsical Jul 2022 #13

Well said PatSeg Jul 2022 #16

He's also about 50/50 Sympthsical Jul 2022 #33

I agree, there is a whole lot of "filler" in the news PatSeg Jul 2022 #37

When you're flanked by David Brooks, Ross Douthat, and Bret Stephens... Act_of_Reparation Jul 2022 #53

Completely fair point Sympthsical Jul 2022 #59

I would give him far more than 50/50. karynnj Jul 2022 #78

Goldberg is playing a lot of CYA DFW Jul 2022 #15

Yes, if she'd met with Al Franken PatSeg Jul 2022 #17

My senator in Oregon was one of Tree Lady Jul 2022 #42

That is (good) news to me DFW Jul 2022 #48

Can you tell me which one? DFW Jul 2022 #87

You know what? I was wrong Tree Lady Jul 2022 #88

Ugh! DFW Jul 2022 #89

+1 betsuni Jul 2022 #49

Kamala, Bernie, and Schumer called on him to resign 867-5309. Jul 2022 #18

The eight accusers were full of shit Demsrule86 Jul 2022 #21

And probably paid to make those claims PatSeg Jul 2022 #23

I agree and they were anonymous too...I remember one said Franken looked at her funny Demsrule86 Jul 2022 #44

Oh, I've been here everyday PatSeg Jul 2022 #54

It actually does. BannonsLiver Jul 2022 #61

Franken had two things going against him Buckeyeblue Jul 2022 #19

The Senator from New York might have a different opinion...she will never be president. Demsrule86 Jul 2022 #45

Kamala and Schumer might as well 867-5309. Jul 2022 #67

Not silly at all inthewind21 Jul 2022 #73

Gillibrand tried to make hay out of it. shrike3 Jul 2022 #75

Hard to see why Gillibrand thought this would help her 867-5309. Jul 2022 #76

No, I'm not saying they'd not have come out for Franken's resignation. shrike3 Jul 2022 #81

Yes, it was primarily Gillibrand PatSeg Jul 2022 #86

She is still fucking wrong. She relied on Demsrule86 Jul 2022 #20

Yes, I still don't see where she actually admitted PatSeg Jul 2022 #24

+1 2naSalit Jul 2022 #29

He should never have resigned malaise Jul 2022 #22

I know PatSeg Jul 2022 #25

Franken.... LexVegas Jul 2022 #26

Roger Stone played the Dems like a fiddle. Ligyron Jul 2022 #35

When the whole #MeToo movement started, PatSeg Jul 2022 #38

The #Me Too was a much needed epiphany for many. Ligyron Jul 2022 #66

Yes, it is very rare PatSeg Jul 2022 #68

Me Too was not good because there was no due process...and now it is discredited by so many Demsrule86 Jul 2022 #82

Thanks for absolutely nothing, Michelle Goldberg. Paladin Jul 2022 #36

Saying nothing at all would have been preferable PatSeg Jul 2022 #39

Bullseye. Thank you. Paladin Jul 2022 #41

Actually David Brooks' piece PatSeg Jul 2022 #46

Glad you got something out of Brooks' piece. I'll pass. (nt) Paladin Jul 2022 #52

Sometimes people surprise us PatSeg Jul 2022 #57

David Brooks is often wrong but I can't dislike him, he has a niceness about him. betsuni Jul 2022 #62

Yes, there is a willingness to admit PatSeg Jul 2022 #64

Yeah. We know. Iggo Jul 2022 #40

A little late Ms Goldberg... Wounded Bear Jul 2022 #43

She didn't really admit she was wrong, PatSeg Jul 2022 #47

Shorter Goldberg: JHB Jul 2022 #50

It should have started out: PatSeg Jul 2022 #60

The are many Senators I would like to hear from on the ruin of Franken. LakeArenal Jul 2022 #55

Not even a so-so sorry. betsuni Jul 2022 #58

You're right geardaddy Jul 2022 #65

Yep, she was just saying: PatSeg Jul 2022 #69

Exactly! geardaddy Jul 2022 #70

Too little, too late. I am not impressed by her, either. flying_wahini Jul 2022 #71

Broaddrick (mentioned above) tweeted, "Bannon is working on it. Good things are coming." shrike3 Jul 2022 #74

Oh, I didn't know that about Broaddrick PatSeg Jul 2022 #77

I didn't recall about Stone. Lord knows we can't remember everything. shrike3 Jul 2022 #80

I remember hearing about Stone and Hannity PatSeg Jul 2022 #83

What the hell kind of "I was wrong" was this?!?!? Novara Jul 2022 #79

There was no acknowledgement of wrongdoing whatsoever PatSeg Jul 2022 #85