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Walleye

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21. Part of the problem for our side as we obsess over a little things like figures of speech

Sun Jul 24, 2022, 11:45 AM

Jul 2022

Do you want to hear misogyny listen to what Matt Gaetz said the other night. A lot of it is in the intent, not the words. I find there is much more misogyny in the Supreme Court ruling and they didn’t use any offensive words

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Another Way to Look at the Use of the "B" word to describe a man. [View all] MineralMan Jul 2022 OP

I think there is too much hysteria about words. LakeArenal Jul 2022 #1

I'm not being hysterical in any way. MineralMan Jul 2022 #2

You prove my point. I'm talking individual words LakeArenal Jul 2022 #11

+1 llmart Jul 2022 #19

Yes. LakeArenal Jul 2022 #24

Hear, hear! Jilly_in_VA Jul 2022 #30

Amen. llmart Jul 2022 #41

"Can we all stop being uptight about every single word?" FoxNewsSucks Jul 2022 #43

I recall a thread where someone was whingeing on about the word 'sucks' being misogynistic Celerity Jul 2022 #104

+1 BeerBarrelPolka Jul 2022 #105

That's right, FoxNewsSucks Jul 2022 #111

Yes, it has gotten excessive PatSeg Jul 2022 #66

Yeah, let's ban hysteria, hysterical, hysterically, ... dalton99a Jul 2022 #49

Exactly my point. llmart Jul 2022 #57

no more Def Leppard for you! Celerity Jul 2022 #106

+1 dalton99a Jul 2022 #109

Such a GREAT song! FoxNewsSucks Jul 2022 #112

it is one of those 'HYPER 1980's' power ballad classics, lolol Celerity Jul 2022 #114

Those were all excellent, FoxNewsSucks Jul 2022 #115

here is a wee bit different type of early 1980's tune with some serious cowbell, lol Celerity Jul 2022 #116

Yes, when something is extremely funny, PatSeg Jul 2022 #68

I would like to Rec this whole subthread ms liberty Jul 2022 #62

I didn't know about this debate and I just used "bitch." arlyellowdog Jul 2022 #3

Whether a word is funny or not depends on who is hearing or reading it, I think. MineralMan Jul 2022 #4

The problem is some don't consider context FoxNewsSucks Jul 2022 #27

+1 llmart Jul 2022 #47

Yes, I think we need to take into consideration PatSeg Jul 2022 #71

Using a gendered word as an insult is offensive. Period. Ms. Toad Jul 2022 #113

No. Not always. FoxNewsSucks Jul 2022 #117

See point #2 in my original post. Ms. Toad Jul 2022 #120

I think the wholesale condemnation of certain words.. quickesst Jul 2022 #44

Yes, and I've heard a black man use the n word to another black man. Neither was offended. BlackSkimmer Jul 2022 #85

Surely you corrected the man on his usage of the n word? BannonsLiver Jul 2022 #90

Oh, of course. BlackSkimmer Jul 2022 #101

... BannonsLiver Jul 2022 #102

Back atcha. BlackSkimmer Jul 2022 #103

Unless a woman uses it of course ... Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2022 #5

It's quite easy to avoid using all of those gender-related insults, MineralMan Jul 2022 #9

What does the PC Guidebook say about using it in a context like this ... Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2022 #25

Think about the use of it as a verb. MineralMan Jul 2022 #46

Jaysus... llmart Jul 2022 #50

✔️ LakeArenal Jul 2022 #70

My whole point earlier Jilly_in_VA Jul 2022 #87

+1 BeerBarrelPolka Jul 2022 #91

Words inthewind21 Jul 2022 #127

I BeerBarrelPolka Jul 2022 #135

I didn't even know that dick meant penis when you were a kid Polybius Jul 2022 #118

It did, though. MineralMan Jul 2022 #124

Look at the way the military uses it. milestogo Jul 2022 #6

Yes. Exactly. MineralMan Jul 2022 #10

Was there a sale on charcoal fluid? Sympthsical Jul 2022 #7

I don't know. I never use it. MineralMan Jul 2022 #14

As a kid, I always liked to see how high I could get the flames Sympthsical Jul 2022 #17

+1 Croney Jul 2022 #8

OP makes a great point Bobstandard Jul 2022 #12

Sometimes words like bitch can be empowering. It depends how you use it . I have a mucifer Jul 2022 #13

I've referred to mitch as Moscow's B... ecstatic Jul 2022 #15

Not handwringing, and I'm not telling anyone what to do or not do. MineralMan Jul 2022 #16

Bitch is used very casually among younger groups of people ismnotwasm Jul 2022 #18

I hate it when I am forced to think Jerry2144 Jul 2022 #20

Thanks. Thinking take effort, MineralMan Jul 2022 #35

Part of the problem for our side as we obsess over a little things like figures of speech Walleye Jul 2022 #21

Well, figures of speech carry a great deal of meaning. MineralMan Jul 2022 #37

That's a good point. Walleye Jul 2022 #51

My jaw dropped when I saw that video of Gaetz! IjustDontlikeRepugs Jul 2022 #55

You better believe it. There are still way too many think that way and talk that way. Walleye Jul 2022 #60

"He's an asshole." Talitha Jul 2022 #79

Hahahaha IjustDontlikeRepugs Jul 2022 #81

Everyone has an asshole (and an opinion) so nothing madinmaryland Jul 2022 #132

thank you G_j Jul 2022 #22

My pleasure. MineralMan Jul 2022 #26

Setting aside the B word for a moment. BannonsLiver Jul 2022 #23

Had he not incited the mob that then put him in fear, he wouldn't have been mocked. FoxNewsSucks Jul 2022 #29

Agreed BannonsLiver Jul 2022 #31

I must not have gotten to that one yet. FoxNewsSucks Jul 2022 #39

NO inthewind21 Jul 2022 #128

Totally BeerBarrelPolka Jul 2022 #130

Ask the people who are pushing it. BannonsLiver Jul 2022 #131

He's being mocked because he espouses "manliness" and "masculinity." MineralMan Jul 2022 #32

"Fear shaming"? Elessar Zappa Jul 2022 #34

He's lily-livered Jilly_in_VA Jul 2022 #89

Hey! BannonsLiver Jul 2022 #93

LOL BeerBarrelPolka Jul 2022 #94

Go have another bottle of scotch! madinmaryland Jul 2022 #133

Don't tempt me with a good time. BannonsLiver Jul 2022 #134

Hey there MM. I'd like to share a great paper on the topic, with many points to consider 🤓 Ziggysmom Jul 2022 #28

Very good. Thanks! MineralMan Jul 2022 #33

Like "Jello" "Bandaid" or "Kleenex" FoxNewsSucks Jul 2022 #36

I agree that we should be very careful about using gender-related insults. MineralMan Jul 2022 #40

Although I ForgedCrank Jul 2022 #38

Exactly. Which is why eliminating such loaded insults MineralMan Jul 2022 #42

+1 imaginary girl Jul 2022 #45

The anti-vulgarity society is up Triloon Jul 2022 #48

Democrats must purify themselves to perfection and wear 100% certified pure clothes dalton99a Jul 2022 #53

Thanks for contributing to the thread. MineralMan Jul 2022 #54

No Problem. Triloon Jul 2022 #97

+1 BannonsLiver Jul 2022 #63

+1 BeerBarrelPolka Jul 2022 #86

This message was self-deleted by its author traitorsgalore Jul 2022 #96

Virtue Signalling at it's finest... radicalleft Jul 2022 #122

Bingo inthewind21 Jul 2022 #129

Besides referring to women, men or female dogs, it can mean something difficult, panader0 Jul 2022 #52

Yes, it is also used in that way. MineralMan Jul 2022 #56

It's hard to insult anybody these days Red Mountain Jul 2022 #58

Not really, if you think about it a bit. MineralMan Jul 2022 #59

Priggish Lecturing (nt) ProfessorGAC Jul 2022 #61

I see. Oh, well... MineralMan Jul 2022 #73

Fair warning ... non-PC speech is referenced in this post. This stuff is not for the timid. Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2022 #78

+1 BeerBarrelPolka Jul 2022 #88

if you have gay friends... bahboo Jul 2022 #64

Of course. BannonsLiver Jul 2022 #80

In Hawley's case I would go with weenie. It implies more that he is scared. LiberalFighter Jul 2022 #65

You can bet someone would find weenie offensive. BannonsLiver Jul 2022 #67

Ah, I found someone who is offended!!! PatSeg Jul 2022 #74

Dachsy would trample Hawley LiberalFighter Jul 2022 #75

Ha, ha, ha!!! PatSeg Jul 2022 #77

So would George Conway's corgis Jilly_in_VA Jul 2022 #92

What I am getting out of this thread rownesheck Jul 2022 #69

Some agree with my opinions. Others disagree. MineralMan Jul 2022 #72

I remember it during the custom van craze! gay texan Jul 2022 #76

Or your bitchin' Camaro. LakeArenal Jul 2022 #107

Man.... gay texan Jul 2022 #110

Can't always read the room before throwing out fighting words. Iggo Jul 2022 #82

I think about the seriousness of climate change and then read how offended some are by this jalan48 Jul 2022 #83

I can do more than one thing at a time. MineralMan Jul 2022 #98

+1000 Celerity Jul 2022 #108

Thank you. BlackSkimmer Jul 2022 #84

Yes. You're right. MineralMan Jul 2022 #99

I've never understood why it matters what word is used in an insult nini Jul 2022 #95

Language is a habit. MineralMan Jul 2022 #100

True, and I know I don't speak for all women nini Jul 2022 #126

I'd use the B word to describe MTG and Josh Hawley edbermac Jul 2022 #119

It's a slur whether used on a man or a woman. William769 Jul 2022 #121

Yup. Roisin Ni Fiachra Jul 2022 #123

Exactly. MineralMan Jul 2022 #125

Do you remember the few folks using "Rhonda", when referring MerryBlooms Jul 2022 #136