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Towlie

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25. The bit about two tides per day not making sense is especially interesting.
Sun Jul 24, 2022, 01:19 PM
Jul 2022
The existence of tides is often taken as a proof of gravity, but this is logically flawed. Because if the moon's "gravity" were responsible for a bulge underneath it, then how can anyone explain a high tide on the opposite side of the earth at the same time? Anyone can observe that there are two — not one — high tides every day. It is far more likely that tides were given us by an Intelligent Creator long ago and they have been with us ever since. In any case, the fact that there are two high tides falsifies gravity.

The best explanation I've encountered for why there are two high tides per day is part of a 1966 short story by Larry Niven, titled Neutron Star, which can be read here. The explanation is on page 3.

“Do you know what happens when a moon gets too close to its primary?”

“It falls apart.”

“Why?”

“I do not know.”

“Tides.”

“What is a tide?”

Oho, said I to myself, said I. “I’m going to try to tell you. The Earth’s moon is almost two thousand miles in diameter and does not rotate with respect to Earth. I want you to pick two rocks on the moon, one at the point nearest the Earth, one at the point farthest away.”

“Very well.”

“Now, isn’t it obvious that if those rocks were left to themselves, they’d fall away from each other? They’re in two different orbits, mind you, concentric orbits, one almost two thousand miles outside the other. Yet those rocks are forced to move at the same orbital speed.”

“The one outside is moving faster.”

“Good point. So there is a force trying to pull the moon apart. Gravity holds it together. Bring the moon close enough to Earth, and those two rocks would simply float away.”

The Moon has the same effect on the Earth, trying to pull it apart, but in this case the ocean's response is most visible because it's liquid and can flow. Whether the Moon is overhead or below our feet, it tries to pull the earth apart. Therefore there are two tide cycles per day.
Cool, I want to check this out. 2naSalit Jul 2022 #1
I Thought The Same! ProfessorGAC Jul 2022 #20
Isaac Newton knew "infinitesimals"-never observed- are a fraud pirsquared Jul 2022 #24
The bit about two tides per day not making sense is especially interesting. Towlie Jul 2022 #25
2 high tides every day: Theory of Gravity disproved! Flat earthers confused. pirsquared Jul 2022 #28
I'm hoping it will help me learn it... 2naSalit Jul 2022 #32
Thanks for posting. n/t John1956PA Jul 2022 #2
Thanks Lochloosa Jul 2022 #3
K&R n/t Alice Kramden Jul 2022 #4
I must've lucked out and had a teacher who learned from that system (book)... Hugin Jul 2022 #5
Old textbooks cost almost nothing and sometimes covered math from K-12 in one cheap book lostnfound Jul 2022 #6
where's those ebooks they said we would be using by now? mopinko Jul 2022 #8
Some teachers and professors have abandoned traditional textbooks. hunter Jul 2022 #19
I See That A Lot! ProfessorGAC Jul 2022 #21
They found a way to charge for those, too Sympthsical Jul 2022 #30
ThNks! That's terrific! PCIntern Jul 2022 #7
Math: The language of measuring sanatanadharma Jul 2022 #9
du dweller Jul 2022 #10
That's a lot to ponder. n/t Harker Jul 2022 #16
When AI enables us to speak to a computer to solve problems in math BSdetect Jul 2022 #11
Everybody uses calculators and computers now. hunter Jul 2022 #27
K&R, Simple explanations from someone who understands the subject are usually the best !! uponit7771 Jul 2022 #12
At the age of 47 I took calculus for fun. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2022 #13
I took it between my junior and senior years. Igel Jul 2022 #17
I think its because you care jcgoldie Jul 2022 #34
True. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2022 #36
Awesome Johnny2X2X Jul 2022 #14
Excellent, thanks for posting. K&R. c-rational Jul 2022 #15
I had a multivariable calculus professor (for my 3rd semester of calc) BumRushDaShow Jul 2022 #18
The print. Really? And some of us are visual learners. Baitball Blogger Jul 2022 #22
It is an excellent and well known textbook. dalton99a Jul 2022 #23
TY! n/t EndlessWire Jul 2022 #26
Hey, gang, it's at Gutenberg! ironflange Jul 2022 #29
Now let's get colleges to use books like this when they teach their courses... Silent3 Jul 2022 #31
This doesn't surprise me at all jobendorfer Jul 2022 #33
Cool link thanks! perfessor Jul 2022 #35
Would be outlawed in Florida. Why they even have a whole chapter called Integration! retread Jul 2022 #37
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