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BumRushDaShow

(170,108 posts)
78. Here we go again
Wed Jul 27, 2022, 06:10 AM
Jul 2022

THIS is what the OP says -

a reminder: Merrick Garland's investigation of Timothy McVeigh, Terry Nichols and the Unabomber
had zero leaks before indictments, 100% convictions, and no turnovers on appeal.


And then you pull this out of thin air -

I was not the one who claimed Garland was the lead investigator of the Unabomber case.


You have now pivoted with complete nonsense. The posts were addressing Garland's "investigations" and how these were handled. You then went on and on with incorrect information about what happened with McVeigh and then when that was pointed out, you quickly dropped that.

I then added an article that you failed to read, so I'll include a smaller amount for you to read -

Unabomber Case Helped Hone Garland’s Legal Skills

By James Rowley
March 24, 2016 at 5:00 AM EDT


The killer known as the Unabomber was methodical, patient and meticulous. So was the U.S. Justice Department official who directed the investigation that took him down. Former colleagues of U.S. Supreme Court nominee Merrick Garland cite his legal skills in the courtroom and in overseeing the mid-1990s Unabomber and Oklahoma City bombing investigations as evidence that pragmatism and common sense, not an elaborate constitutional philosophy, would guide his decisions as an associate justice.

(snip)

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-03-24/unabomber-case-helped-hone-supreme-court-nominee-s-legal-skills


NEWSFLASH: When you are at the GS-1000 level as he was in the Criminal Division of DOJ from 1993 - 1997, you are a supervisor directing the work of multiple teams of investigators whose work ultimately leads to the building of a case. This includes individuals working across different agencies, in this case to include the FBI, ATF, and the U.S. Postal Service (since Kaczynski was mailing bombs).

The crime spree that went on for almost 20 years despite pleas and evidence given the DOJ by the Unabomber's brother. You seem to double down and have no problem with that statement. You want Garland to claim to be the investigator on that case? That is what the OP says.


You are now going into a bunch of psychobabble about DOJ and Kaczynski, when Kaczynski started his crime spree when Jimmy Carter was President and the AG was Ben Civiletti, and continued through 3 Presidents and 7 Attorney Generals.

https://www.fbi.gov/history/famous-cases/unabomber

The final investigations, arrest, and indictment happened under the purview of Garland while he was in multiple SES leadership roles that included directing the investigations of multiple major cases during that time that have been posted about in this thread.

It's obvious that when one is losing an argument, one attempts to obfuscate with unrelated minutia, throwing things at a wall to see if anything sticks.

Your continued lack of knowledge of the federal government's employment structure is not surprising and is laid bare in this thread.



(the above was the org chart during that period from the DOJ archives)

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Get thee to the greatest page malaise Jul 2022 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Jul 2022 #2
K&R spanone Jul 2022 #3
yes neiljwollman Jul 2022 #4
Destruction sagetea Jul 2022 #5
"Destruction is loud, but creation is silent." ARPad95 Jul 2022 #27
Excellent reminder! pandr32 Jul 2022 #6
Exactly what I wanted to say! Cha Jul 2022 #7
Also the easiest convictions ever. Missing plates led to arrest. JanMichael Jul 2022 #8
So the McVeigh arrest was easy. But getting the evidence wnylib Jul 2022 #13
Just saying bad example. No harm in that JanMichael Jul 2022 #18
Not a bad example. The only easy part wnylib Jul 2022 #20
Because people driving without a tag who also have a gun Phoenix61 Jul 2022 #22
Game, set and match against the naysayers ... Trumpdumper Jul 2022 #9
I read an article recently, either on Huffpost or wnylib Jul 2022 #17
Thinking MAGA require rational justification ... krkaufman Jul 2022 #57
It's not about rational justification. wnylib Jul 2022 #74
Game, Set & Match? SoCalDavidS Jul 2022 #25
And those had one other thing in common.... getagrip_already Jul 2022 #10
Why would he resign? nt Phoenix61 Jul 2022 #23
end of term...... getagrip_already Jul 2022 #48
Physical Crimes RobinA Jul 2022 #42
Yes, I don't believe McVeigh Mr.Bill Jul 2022 #67
This. nt BlackSkimmer Jul 2022 #62
C'mon Merrick, let's go 4 for 4... Blue Owl Jul 2022 #11
Coming up! malaise Jul 2022 #26
Thanks! I needed that reminder. calimary Jul 2022 #12
But we didn't have social media (except for AOL) at the time... brooklynite Jul 2022 #14
Perfect reminder Novara Jul 2022 #15
I agree. ShazzieB Jul 2022 #31
Thank you Novara Jul 2022 #41
+100. nt MarineCombatEngineer Jul 2022 #46
I'm exactly where you're at, MarineCombatEngineer Jul 2022 #45
Yessssssss. It all conjecture at this point LakeArenal Jul 2022 #53
really true Bondor Jul 2022 #63
Garland is brilliant. It's gonna be a grand slam. Joinfortmill Jul 2022 #16
TYVM for this timely reminder, elleng Hekate Jul 2022 #19
Wait...he was the investigator on those cases? trof Jul 2022 #21
Yes he was. nt Phoenix61 Jul 2022 #24
Facts?! PJMcK Jul 2022 #28
What if they had video, audio and witness testimony of kacekwl Jul 2022 #29
Are people asking for leaks? 48656c6c6f20 Jul 2022 #30
Hate to point this out, but it's just a matter of time. dchill Jul 2022 #32
I know how you feel, dchill. calimary Jul 2022 #33
K&R, uponit7771 Jul 2022 #34
Not a great comparison. former9thward Jul 2022 #35
McVeigh was arrested for not having a license plate on the car he was driving BumRushDaShow Jul 2022 #37
Jan 6th was 18 months ago. former9thward Jul 2022 #38
And I shouldn't even have to point out WHO was in charge of DOJ BumRushDaShow Jul 2022 #40
Nothing you are saying relates to the OP or even the general issue. former9thward Jul 2022 #56
Your recitation of what happened with McVeigh BumRushDaShow Jul 2022 #61
Reno? former9thward Jul 2022 #66
I think you forgot what YOU posted BumRushDaShow Jul 2022 #68
He did do the investigation, MarineCombatEngineer Jul 2022 #69
The poster I replied to said Reno did the investigation. former9thward Jul 2022 #70
You're really nit picking here. MarineCombatEngineer Jul 2022 #71
It is interesting the both you and the other poster are totally ignoring the Unabomber former9thward Jul 2022 #73
You are the one missing the point of the OP BumRushDaShow Jul 2022 #76
I was not the one who claimed Garland was the lead investigator of the Unabomber case. former9thward Jul 2022 #77
Here we go again BumRushDaShow Jul 2022 #78
exactly Grasswire2 Jul 2022 #39
+1, uponit7771 Jul 2022 #51
One fly in the soup...They never pinned down nor exposed the RW network which enabled McVeigh and Ford_Prefect Jul 2022 #36
This recent thread discusses that: sop Jul 2022 #49
Yep there had to be many more people involved yet roam free. JanMichael Jul 2022 #54
And a few who perhaps help pay for it, or enabled the events. Ford_Prefect Jul 2022 #64
Lester Holt's new interview with Garland malaise Jul 2022 #43
Kick mcar Jul 2022 #44
They were social outcasts with few supporters dalton99a Jul 2022 #47
This is medicine duhneece Jul 2022 #50
Both indicted in months, I don't think this OP helps Garlands case like the recs think it does uponit7771 Jul 2022 #52
Thanks for that. I think we all worry that the clock is running out. Martin68 Jul 2022 #55
And inthewind21 Jul 2022 #59
I'm thinking the plethora of evidence was probably helpful. jaxexpat Jul 2022 #58
Great 100% of maga idiots could get behind that RANDYWILDMAN Jul 2022 #60
K and R...Thanks for posting.. Stuart G Jul 2022 #65
Hopefully, that ship is still as tight Ruby the Liberal Jul 2022 #72
McVeigh didn't have any McVeighs on his jury prodigitalson Jul 2022 #75
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