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usonian

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28. He just encapsulates their rage. At basically everything.
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 04:59 PM
Jul 2022

Rage at what? Well, times are never peachy, so there's always something is always there to gripe about.

And when rage is manufactured, as people do for their advantage over others, who don't see how they're being used against their own better interest .... People project their weaknesses onto others.
And even the "Good Shepherd" is weaponized.

Every Accusation is a Confession
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216777247

And throughout history are taken to the cleaners.

I can't grasp how anyone could vote for that empty man
Because they feel empty, or are propagandized to feel so, quite skillfully.


People put up with contradictions to be part of an identity group, hence identity politics, and basically cult membership.
And AFAICT, same rules apply. I was going to post a reply going into this, but the OP yanked the thread. I might as well attach it below.

Here is some background I like to refer:
“Democracy in Crisis: We’ve Been Headed Here for Decades.” Part 1of 8
https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2021/8/6/2044226/-America-2021-The-Good-the-Bad-the-Ugly
Read all 8 to get the "plan" in detail.
This is all a Russian plan. Started years ago.
https://pastebin.com/raw/evbnN5y7

People who feel powerless have only rage.
I figure that a main reason is the deliberate stagnation of government over many years, except for some pretty extreme welfare for the rich.

In short: "They call it trickle-down economics but it's really golden showers"

In response to the yanked question on how to "convert" repubs not entirely deluded by the Qult mentality ...


So, I read a lot on cult behavior and how people escape it (well, some do), and there are similarities to addiction.

I forgot what and where I posted it, and it's long, so here's my summary.

SOME people escape, due to these key reasons.

1. Some feel betrayed, as the rose colored glasses fade. You might compare this to "The Man Who Would be King". Failure helps (hint, hint)

2. Some cannot hold the contradiction in their minds any longer, since denial is key to any cult. One has to deny all outside information (sound familiar) and live with the lies, especially as the lies jump around from one outrage to another, and can contradict each other.

3. Some just hit "rock bottom" when they find that their behavior is just plain self-destructive, as it always was, but they were getting high on their own supply (of group identity or hate)

Others. I ask any therapists out there to chime in and correct. I just wanted to give a high-level view of some of the top breakaway mechanisms.

1 and 2 are particularly interesting as news eventually does get out and ring the denial bell.

You can't break everyone out. Cults will maintain some percentage of people (as "Q" does) but the point is to chip away at the borderline ones, just going along for the identity trip, as people do.
You are seeing some high-level people break away from the zombie curse as it becomes clear that they have been clinging to a "Party of Nothing© " or as I also noted the "Party of Spite© " or POS.

And also, that the "great cause" is purely destructive, with no positive outcome (except for Putin)

And that it has jumped the shark, the great contradiction being (can they see it?) that they want no government control, and at the same time, absolute government control (naturally, of others, but WOMEN ARE PEOPLE TOO.)



more ....

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Great post. Laffy Kat Jul 2022 #1
Republicans would rather troops come home in a box. Cheaper. Baked Potato Jul 2022 #2
Never thought of it that way. But I can't disagree. Cyrano Jul 2022 #3
Well said. Now if we can just message this in Dem campaigns we'll have something dutch777 Jul 2022 #4
Yep. Far too many human beings live in an ideological bubble Cyrano Jul 2022 #8
i was shocked to find out how little active duty folks mopinko Jul 2022 #5
The exact same thing happen to me YEARS AGO. 1965 to 1969 I handed surgical instruments to surgeons. usaf-vet Jul 2022 #18
that's super disheartening to me, as that surgery mopinko Jul 2022 #26
Your post reminded me of my recent thoughts Abolishinist Jul 2022 #6
Yes, the government provides many benefits to vets Cyrano Jul 2022 #10
Spoiled, privileged, manipuliative bastards. Your GQP. usonian Jul 2022 #7
So many individual stories. So many lives changed. Cyrano Jul 2022 #12
That's why I am here! usonian Jul 2022 #15
I can't grasp how anyone could vote for that empty man Cyrano Jul 2022 #27
He just encapsulates their rage. At basically everything. usonian Jul 2022 #28
The DoD is a jobs program. Where are the big military bases? underpants Jul 2022 #9
The large military installations The Wizard Jul 2022 #22
Well you know underpants Jul 2022 #23
Wingnuts are mostly non-serving, in prior eras *paid* for substitutes UTUSN Jul 2022 #11
Thank you so much for your understanding, UTUSN. Cyrano Jul 2022 #13
YOU understanding me! UTUSN Jul 2022 #17
Chickenhawk scumbags. kairos12 Jul 2022 #14
Wow!!!! MarineCombatEngineer Jul 2022 #16
Kick denbot Jul 2022 #19
Here is a link to a list of the times the GOP sabotaged Obama's efforts, and this is only to 2015 dugog55 Jul 2022 #20
Drafted in 66 The Wizard Jul 2022 #21
Hear Hear! OldBaldy1701E Jul 2022 #24
+1000 This is the perfect rant FakeNoose Jul 2022 #25
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