Massive crowd to see Greg Abbott at CPAC......j/k!

[ancianita]

44. holy shit what a provocative series. To me it's not as much what HFP here says,

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but that it claims that Budapest is the Euro headquarters of the FSB. Which squares with why the outlier of the EU is Hungary, which, next to Belarus, is Putin's foothold into Europe. Why they took in (not very courteously, either) Ukrainians during their war is weird. Also worthy of our NSA/CIA/DoD's investigation.

Anyway, back to your links. That it claims that Euro headquarters for the FSB are in Budapest serves to explain why messaging between putinistas here send messaging (and maybe even funds) back and forth to Russia.

So these links show one reason why the whole press of Hungary can be taken over, including this source, which itself can be simply the propaganda arm of the FSB, that promotes Hungarian power (a willing Putin proxy) when it claims that Hungary was the broker of all outside money flowing into trump's 2016 campaign.

I've not yet been able to verify the credentials of the Hungarian Free Press links that you post, but I do believe the New York Times when it gives the history of how Hungary's free press got taken over after Orban assumed office in 2010. It was Janos Lazar who brokered a solution for Orban's control of Hungary's then troublesome, critical "free" press -- he came up with the tactic of compromising Hungary's major press editors.

And so that was done. These links you use were established in 2014. That they would know that Hungary would be the money source for trump sounds more like bragging, don't you think?

Anyway, thanks for the provocative, but likely propaganda, links. It's kinda weird/cool to probably be reading FSB press, since the FSB has constructed thousands upon thousands of spy legends for its spies in the West. Be careful not to fall for Hungarian hype. That's what our political opponents do.

Hungary, in fact, does not have a free press. This is the autocratic front after ending democratic governments.

EDIT: One more thing. Pro-putini oligarchs govern by smoke and mirrors, over here as well as there (as proven by Sheldon Whitehouse in his "Scheme" series). That's why they've hated Soros for abandoning Hungary and turning to supporting Western democracies, and why rethugs think he's the Democrats' biggest backer, which is far from the truth.


More to consider:

https://europeanjournalists.org/blog/2019/12/03/new-report-hungary-dismantles-media-freedom-and-pluralism/

https://www.vox.com/2020/5/21/21256324/viktor-orban-hungary-american-conservatives