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NutmegYankee

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96. The elctrical needs alone to move a sufficient volume of water is not practical.

Sun Aug 7, 2022, 09:59 AM

Aug 2022

You'd need to construct several dedicated power plants alone. If we had unlimited money, sure, we could engineer a solution. In practical sense, nope.

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Thoughts on western states building a pipeline to take water from the Mississippi river?? [View all] Peacetrain Aug 2022 OP

Mississippi River is the right place for it though Johnny2X2X Aug 2022 #1

The Mississippi is essential for shipping large quantities of grain and other material Ocelot II Aug 2022 #5

Diverting a small % of it will have no effect in that Johnny2X2X Aug 2022 #17

That's what they said about my beloved Apalachicola Bay Oyster Lochloosa Aug 2022 #23

That's what they said, and are saying, about the Sacramento Bobstandard Aug 2022 #70

They want to do the same thing with the Great Lakes...wouldn't allow it...Mississippi should Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #101

In 20-30 years, it will be useless to pump water out to the SW. roamer65 Aug 2022 #2

Now its 20-30 years? former9thward Aug 2022 #7

Are you denying climate change? roamer65 Aug 2022 #11

You are the one moving the goalposts back decades from what people in AZ were told. former9thward Aug 2022 #14

Do you have another source besides your memory? JanMichael Aug 2022 #27

I have federal law. roamer65 Aug 2022 #31

I think you meant to reply to another post. JanMichael Aug 2022 #33

Yup, sorry I did. roamer65 Aug 2022 #54

Well since we are worried about sources... former9thward Aug 2022 #32

You made the "memory" claim not me. Thanks. JanMichael Aug 2022 #34

I can't source my memory. former9thward Aug 2022 #42

I didn't think you could source anything other than yourself. JanMichael Aug 2022 #48

You think? former9thward Aug 2022 #49

I inserted Shelby for a witches something or another. JanMichael Aug 2022 #51

What is really lame is making assertions without evidence. former9thward Aug 2022 #56

This message was self-deleted by its author Thtwudbeme Aug 2022 #71

Maybe rich people in Phoenix should stop watering their lush green lawns? Ocelot II Aug 2022 #3

I think you will have to go after the green lawns in California. former9thward Aug 2022 #10

I was checking Google Earth of Scottsdale. Looked like lotsa green there. Ocelot II Aug 2022 #18

God is this true right now Sympthsical Aug 2022 #92

Most Colorado River water is used for agriculture VMA131Marine Aug 2022 #16

This message was self-deleted by its author WarGamer Aug 2022 #37

Yup. They grow carrots and green peppers in the Imperial Valley of CA. A HERETIC I AM Aug 2022 #52

Yup SheltieLover Aug 2022 #24

Green lawns in Phoenix and surrounding areas aren't common at all, they're more scarce MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2022 #104

The idea looks cool until you look at a topographic map. NutmegYankee Aug 2022 #4

It is amazing how very flat the country looks on a non-topographic map, isn't it? Hekate Aug 2022 #45

It's not only flat, but it looks like if they took water from up North it's all downhill. Dysfunctional Aug 2022 #95

No they don't. A HERETIC I AM Aug 2022 #47

This would require an elevation gain four or five times greater than that fishwax Aug 2022 #69

12,000 feet?!? Where do you get that from? A HERETIC I AM Aug 2022 #74

The LTTE specified the southern border of Colorado fishwax Aug 2022 #109

The elctrical needs alone to move a sufficient volume of water is not practical. NutmegYankee Aug 2022 #96

Not for golf courses and lawns. Freethinker65 Aug 2022 #6

This message was self-deleted by its author WarGamer Aug 2022 #39

NO. James48 Aug 2022 #8

Your reply would violate the Constitution. former9thward Aug 2022 #12

Who said we would have a republic at that point? roamer65 Aug 2022 #15

Well, it is always easy to fight battles on keyboards. former9thward Aug 2022 #28

Divert water and it will get much more serious than keyboards. roamer65 Aug 2022 #30

The OP was about the Mississippi river not the Great Lakes. former9thward Aug 2022 #38

Looking at Lake Mead, the Colorado River.. etc Peacetrain Aug 2022 #13

I would prefer they not move here. roamer65 Aug 2022 #20

Exactly. LisaM Aug 2022 #35

I am from Ohio and I say no to those who want to tap into the great lakes because they refuse Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #102

In 2012 the U.S. government looked at getting water from the Mississippi, Missouri, ICEBERGS, etc. dalton99a Aug 2022 #9

From what I've read about it.... calguy Aug 2022 #19

I think the SW U.S. has just about reached the point Haggard Celine Aug 2022 #21

Yes. roamer65 Aug 2022 #22

They can come to the South. We have an abundance of water where I live. Haggard Celine Aug 2022 #25

The rising wet bulb temps in the south may make living there hard Kaleva Aug 2022 #72

It's pretty bad. Haggard Celine Aug 2022 #77

It may be wise for people in the South to think of moving Kaleva Aug 2022 #79

I live on the Mississippi Gulf Coast. Haggard Celine Aug 2022 #81

The Great Lakes region might be goid Kaleva Aug 2022 #85

You know I haven't given that area any thought, but it wouldn't Haggard Celine Aug 2022 #87

If you own your home, it's probably worth a lot more.... Kaleva Aug 2022 #90

I'll look that up, thanks! Haggard Celine Aug 2022 #111

I don't want more people coming to my southern state. In my city raccoon Aug 2022 #108

The Great Lakes Compact forbids diversion except for very extenuating circumstances. roamer65 Aug 2022 #26

Thank You, And Also Treaties WiVoter Aug 2022 #97

The Colorado River Compact doesn't seem like it's working as designed, except for Native Americans. TheBlackAdder Aug 2022 #107

No. jeffreyi Aug 2022 #29

This message was self-deleted by its author WarGamer Aug 2022 #36

Bingo. roamer65 Aug 2022 #41

What do you mean by "allowed" 8 billion? AnyFunctioningAdult Aug 2022 #73

Population management. roamer65 Aug 2022 #89

You going to send inspectors door to door? AnyFunctioningAdult Aug 2022 #91

What happens when the planet is uninhabitable? roamer65 Aug 2022 #93

Precisely! Luciferous Aug 2022 #53

It's illogical on multiple fronts NickB79 Aug 2022 #40

...and the Midwest will get drier... roamer65 Aug 2022 #44

Exactly, another states mismanagment is no reason to give them our water to further mismanage. Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #103

Somebody gets it. misanthrope Aug 2022 #83

Divert how much water from the Miss River? keithbvadu2 Aug 2022 #43

Isn't there a mountain range in the way? localroger Aug 2022 #46

Yes, but it's not insurmountable. A HERETIC I AM Aug 2022 #58

A "Pipeline" isn't going to do it. A HERETIC I AM Aug 2022 #50

Yes. That is exactly the correct phrase. James48 Aug 2022 #57

Wanna bet? A HERETIC I AM Aug 2022 #60

And don't think that such a pipeline won't become a target to be blown up NickB79 Aug 2022 #61

Good luck on keeping the pipelines running if it's built. roamer65 Aug 2022 #62

Again, a pipeline will not do it. A HERETIC I AM Aug 2022 #65

Aqueduct, pipeline... roamer65 Aug 2022 #66

I would venture to say there are as many powerful monied ppl here in the MW as there are in the SW PortTack Aug 2022 #82

Califronia should start selling food overseas instead of seeing people in your area get it ripcord Aug 2022 #99

Climate refugee waves will happen before water pipelines get built NickB79 Aug 2022 #59

I don't disagree with you, please know this. A HERETIC I AM Aug 2022 #64

The CA aquaduct Sgent Aug 2022 #80

Mostly downhill? Really? A HERETIC I AM Aug 2022 #86

Thank you. roamer65 Aug 2022 #55

Me Too WiVoter Aug 2022 #98

I suspect that the energy cost ThoughtCriminal Aug 2022 #63

People own the land you're talking about arlyellowdog Aug 2022 #67

Far more is destroyed by roads, power lines, oil pipelines Kaleva Aug 2022 #75

fat chance... myohmy2 Aug 2022 #68

This was kicked around a few months back. Some very bright engineer types here talked about the PortTack Aug 2022 #76

I wonder what that cost would be newdayneeded Aug 2022 #78

Probably be better to build desalination plants DetroitLegalBeagle Aug 2022 #84

That would just give the West an incentive to doc03 Aug 2022 #88

There seems to he hesitation at desalinating the oceans tirebiter Aug 2022 #94

The U.S. doesn't have the stomach for large improvement projects anymore ripcord Aug 2022 #100

The crazed assumption is that in the age of climate change, the Mississippi will continue to flow. NNadir Aug 2022 #105

The cost of building such an aqueduct would be huge and the energy costs similar to desalinization. hunter Aug 2022 #106

Design -WITH nature, not against it. Model35mech Aug 2022 #110