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33. Clearly, you have never known a person that lived paycheck to pay check

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Sat Nov 3, 2012, 11:08 AM

Nov 2012

... but didn't quite make it to the next paycheck.

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Q: Why Don't Gas Stations Have Gasoline-Fueled Electrical Generators On Hand? [View all] stopbush Nov 2012 OP

Its the law in Florida. Mika Nov 2012 #1

butbutbut . . . thats REGULATION . . . big govment reachin into the pocket of business n/t Strelnikov_ Nov 2012 #42

Not true. A HERETIC I AM Nov 2012 #75

Electrical contractors could easily bring a diesel fired rig to these stations and hook them up 2on2u Nov 2012 #2

Just how many generators do you think they have RantinRavin Nov 2012 #16

What is the efficiency of these generators? etherealtruth Nov 2012 #24

I usually use a hand pump so I really don't have the numbers, maybe a few calories..... n/t 2on2u Nov 2012 #158

LOL etherealtruth Nov 2012 #163

They spent all their money on slurpy machines. awake Nov 2012 #3

I love Slurpees. Don't be dissing those Slurpies, now. nt Honeycombe8 Nov 2012 #15

Perhaps they'll install a generator now that they know better. phasma ex machina Nov 2012 #4

Virtually all of them do in JoeyT Nov 2012 #5

Exactly. jp11 Nov 2012 #9

true caraher Nov 2012 #131

But that's just it. That was nine years ago. Indpndnt Nov 2012 #140

Perhaps people will fill up their gas tanks and jerrycans beforehand next time. HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #6

yep and damn those that did not have the resources to do so! etherealtruth Nov 2012 #26

If they have the resources to drive to a gas station... Kaleva Nov 2012 #30

Clearly, you have never known a person that lived paycheck to pay check etherealtruth Nov 2012 #33

I live on $1071 a month for disability Kaleva Nov 2012 #37

Then why the lack of empathy? etherealtruth Nov 2012 #40

I feel sorry for all who are suffering. Kaleva Nov 2012 #61

For a member of the parasite class (the 47%), you have an astonishingly 1%/teabagger outlook. kestrel91316 Nov 2012 #71

Not everyone has the wherewithal to store gasoline SAFELY. marybourg Nov 2012 #90

How about making sure the gas tank is full before the storm hits? Kaleva Nov 2012 #92

In theory that's great Marrah_G Nov 2012 #96

Which makes preparing for such an event weeks or even months before all the more important. Kaleva Nov 2012 #110

So, precisely WHAT punishment do you feel should be meted out to these foolish people?? kestrel91316 Nov 2012 #160

You are the one who appears annoyed. I'm not. Kaleva Nov 2012 #162

Oh, that's right. You're just feeling smug and superior. kestrel91316 Nov 2012 #168

I'm reading your posts and I can only come up with one thing Marrah_G Nov 2012 #170

It could be that some are agitated about this subject. Kaleva Nov 2012 #172

Please explain how someone in the Greater NYC area could live "comfortably" as you say on kestrel91316 Nov 2012 #70

If a person living in such areas can afford a car... Kaleva Nov 2012 #91

I nominate you to be put in charge OF NYC Storm preparedness. Raine1967 Nov 2012 #137

You mistake my arguing that we can all learn from this for judging people Kaleva Nov 2012 #141

Of course you don't care what anyone on DU thinks of you. You don't care what kestrel91316 Nov 2012 #155

They spent all their money on a generator, and couldn't afford gas before the storm? HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #144

Did you ever think that many had generators? Raine1967 Nov 2012 #175

How do you know that they all had the funds available before the hurricane? Do tell. kestrel91316 Nov 2012 #154

Day before storm, no money. Day after storm, money. HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #38

There are a lot of people that didn't receive pay checks because of the storm. Renew Deal Nov 2012 #47

OK, no money and they're in line to buy gas. HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #55

Who said they have no money? Renew Deal Nov 2012 #62

Many people have direct deposit and don't need to pick up their paychecks. stopbush Nov 2012 #74

The poster that opened this subthread with his/her assertion of that. cleanhippie Nov 2012 #100

Then how are they in line for gas a day after the storm? hoboken123 Nov 2012 #58

$$$ etherealtruth Nov 2012 #64

So during/after the storm they recieved and cashed their paycheck and now have money? cleanhippie Nov 2012 #67

I know of people that couldn't get their checks because they couldn't get to work Renew Deal Nov 2012 #69

I'm not disagreeing with you. cleanhippie Nov 2012 #83

do you really need someone to explain each and every .. etherealtruth Nov 2012 #86

No. Do you need someone to explain the most likely and probable cleanhippie Nov 2012 #89

I guess you are far more knowledgeable than I ... etherealtruth Nov 2012 #93

Bullshit, you are EXACTLY "presuming to know the experiences of others." cleanhippie Nov 2012 #97

What I am saying is that they obtained money .... etherealtruth Nov 2012 #80

If there is no power or services, how did they get a payment? cleanhippie Nov 2012 #85

I am so sorry etherealtruth Nov 2012 #94

What a load of contemptable bullshit. When your nonsense is exposed, you attack me. cleanhippie Nov 2012 #98

Oh my gosh ... etherealtruth Nov 2012 #146

They have resources to do so now. HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #36

Really? etherealtruth Nov 2012 #41

You're the one claiming they live paycheck to paycheck. HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #51

I guess that is not a realistic scenario for you etherealtruth Nov 2012 #126

Really? Renew Deal Nov 2012 #45

Then why are they in line to buy gas they don't have money for? HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #54

So they can go to work to make more money to buy food Renew Deal Nov 2012 #56

No, RD, you are missing the point here. cleanhippie Nov 2012 #76

I'd venture that every person complaining about gas lines HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #145

They had no resources to do so BEFORE the storm, but they now HAVE the resources? cleanhippie Nov 2012 #65

I don't know how people with teabagger viewpoints survive so long on DU. Renew Deal Nov 2012 #68

Wait, asking how a person that had no money before the storm got money during/after cleanhippie Nov 2012 #79

I'm not talking about you Renew Deal Nov 2012 #152

Teabagger viewpoints? Shall we examine them? HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #147

You're talking about a made up person Renew Deal Nov 2012 #153

Perhaps they did Renew Deal Nov 2012 #43

Or maybe they simply weren't smart enojgh to fill up before the storm. HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #60

How do you know this? Renew Deal Nov 2012 #66

So, because they aren't as smart as you they deserve to suffer and die?? kestrel91316 Nov 2012 #156

People are dying because they have to wait in line for gas? HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #171

It's the Private sector ... GeorgeGist Nov 2012 #7

Instead of environmentally unfriendly tanks underground... jenw2 Nov 2012 #8

how would putting tanks on the roof make the public see "just how bad gas stations are" ? BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #14

You can't see the tanks leaking into the ground water like we have now jenw2 Nov 2012 #17

I've never lived anywhere that had above ground tanks at gas stations... BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #19

When I was young, some of the pumps actually were hand pumped by the customer. You ladjf Nov 2012 #34

A large gas tank on the roof, as a safety feature for storms? muriel_volestrangler Nov 2012 #20

I'm an old man (64YO) madokie Nov 2012 #21

A large gas tank on the roof? HappyMe Nov 2012 #25

What could possibly go wrong? I love your smilies especially burning stick man KittyWampus Nov 2012 #29

let's remove the insulation from electrical cords so everyone can see how dangerous they are Viking12 Nov 2012 #31

That would be a more inviting/tempting target... -..__... Nov 2012 #39

Tanks now required to be double-walled and corrosion proof. HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #44

So you want upwards of 130 tons of gasoline Codeine Nov 2012 #46

Ideology is great Renew Deal Nov 2012 #50

They could sell advertising space on them. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2012 #84

And what if you are under them if they go BOOM? Odin2005 Nov 2012 #125

Actually the new underground tanks are incredibly safe. Glassunion Nov 2012 #136

They are not used to hurricanes. NutmegYankee Nov 2012 #10

During the power outage here in San Diego nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #11

Maybe they evacuated instead of sticking around to sell gas. JVS Nov 2012 #12

Because It Never Occurred To Them... 'Til Now ??? WillyT Nov 2012 #13

A couple gas station owners have told me they only make doc03 Nov 2012 #18

I wish you'd start a thread on this. It's enlightening and comports with what I"ve been told KittyWampus Nov 2012 #32

Even the Non-Franchise makes very little money on fuel. Glassunion Nov 2012 #73

This message was self-deleted by its author doc03 Nov 2012 #101

This has been a while back when gas was $3.00 a gallon but my buddy that has a gas station told me doc03 Nov 2012 #105

Becasue pumps are big power draws on generators coldwaterintheface Nov 2012 #22

Er, you'd power the GAS-fueled generator with GAS from your own tanks? stopbush Nov 2012 #23

Errr .... what would the net gain be? etherealtruth Nov 2012 #35

Seriously? The net gain is that consumers who need gas for their cars would get gas for their cars. stopbush Nov 2012 #63

Forgive me for making the assumption that you are simply ignorant related to these operations etherealtruth Nov 2012 #77

After reading several of your replies... 99Forever Nov 2012 #102

You should have just stopped at "you don't have much real world knowledge." cleanhippie Nov 2012 #106

Wasn't looking for the cheap insult. 99Forever Nov 2012 #109

Ignorance is one thing, WILLFUL ignorance is something very different. cleanhippie Nov 2012 #115

Agreed. 99Forever Nov 2012 #118

I actually am sorry that my opinions have prompted such a strong response etherealtruth Nov 2012 #139

Perhaps it's because ... 99Forever Nov 2012 #142

I am not so much defending the industry etherealtruth Nov 2012 #143

To save time read post 59 below etherealtruth Nov 2012 #129

Quick question. Honda does not rate their generators on their website by HP, but by Wattage instead. Glassunion Nov 2012 #149

If I remember correctly .... 99Forever Nov 2012 #159

6000 is great for a construction site Glassunion Nov 2012 #165

Post removed Post removed Nov 2012 #103

My assumptions are based on two things etherealtruth Nov 2012 #108

Your "assumptions" are nonsense. cleanhippie Nov 2012 #113

Though you claim I am a hypocrite does not make it so, either etherealtruth Nov 2012 #127

Er, at a loss? hoboken123 Nov 2012 #57

Silliness. stopbush Nov 2012 #72

Not silly Glassunion Nov 2012 #95

Excellent post! etherealtruth Nov 2012 #99

It takes 8000 gallons of diesel.. 99Forever Nov 2012 #107

That isn't what the poster said or implied etherealtruth Nov 2012 #111

It's what he said in roundabout way. 99Forever Nov 2012 #114

That is not what I said Glassunion Nov 2012 #117

It requires a 1000Kw generator.. 99Forever Nov 2012 #119

This a great education hoboken123 Nov 2012 #122

you have to look at the draw of the whole system Glassunion Nov 2012 #132

Example: HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #148

Fuel pumps are significantly more powerful Glassunion Nov 2012 #161

Ok, so you tell me... Glassunion Nov 2012 #123

Gas was hand-pumped for 50 years... HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #151

I understand that completely. Glassunion Nov 2012 #157

In a disaster area ? HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #164

We have no choice. Glassunion Nov 2012 #167

Got a ready made excuse... 99Forever Nov 2012 #173

By "ready made excuse" do you mean federal, state and local laws and regulations? Glassunion Nov 2012 #174

I'd like to thank you.. 99Forever Nov 2012 #176

They can't raise prices, at least in NJ hoboken123 Nov 2012 #116

That seems like an excellent idea. If you owned a station that was one of only a few that could... slackmaster Nov 2012 #27

or a solar panel generator? attached to the roof. Still have a roof, then you have power DonRedwood Nov 2012 #28

That raises the issue of just how much power Codeine Nov 2012 #49

our tank on the farm had a hand pump. DonRedwood Nov 2012 #120

Maybe THAT should be the rule... ProdigalJunkMail Nov 2012 #121

Impossible! Some DUers say it takes 1000kw to pump gas! HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #150

This DUer did not say that. This DUer said that it takes a 1000Kw generator to run the station. Glassunion Nov 2012 #169

Not the problem on LI HockeyMom Nov 2012 #48

This is correct Renew Deal Nov 2012 #52

My daughter got on line at 4:30 AM HockeyMom Nov 2012 #78

In eastern Dutchess, 70 miles from Yankee Stadium, we have the same problem Progressive dog Nov 2012 #53

Couple barges down here at New Windsor unloading... Historic NY Nov 2012 #81

I have an inside track, so I'll tell you why. Glassunion Nov 2012 #59

Thank you. I have purchased and maintained commercial generators. MadrasT Nov 2012 #82

Thanks for your post which offers a good explanation. stopbush Nov 2012 #88

The fuel cost alone is prohibitive with such low profit margins etherealtruth Nov 2012 #104

I don't think any state could afford the incentive program... Glassunion Nov 2012 #112

Sure, running the whole site requires a lot of power caraher Nov 2012 #135

I disagree Glassunion Nov 2012 #138

Funny how it was done for 50 years with hand pumps HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #166

A much more important question. 99Forever Nov 2012 #87

It's not that simple. It takes a fairly large generator to serve MineralMan Nov 2012 #124

Would it be cost effective to have ProdigalJunkMail Nov 2012 #128

There is wisdom in simplicity etherealtruth Nov 2012 #130

+1000 nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #133

The DEP would never allow it, however I think it would be an awesome idea. +1000 Glassunion Nov 2012 #134