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Demsrule86

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136. Sen. Warnock will vote for the bill. I doubt it would affect the parlimentarian review anyway.

Sun Aug 7, 2022, 01:08 PM

Aug 2022

The only hold-up would be Manchin and Sinema, and I can't see either of them caring one way or the other about the Warnock amendment. Sanders is demanding changes that would blow the bill up and would never be agreed to by Manchin or Sinema.

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Bernie Sanders breaks it all down. [View all] richdj25 Aug 2022 OP

Bernie is a troll Johnny2X2X Aug 2022 #1

This message was self-deleted by its author dchill Aug 2022 #18

No. He isn't. budkin Aug 2022 #48

sorry, what is truly sad Skittles Aug 2022 #2

... lapucelle Aug 2022 #3

Bernie's still trying to be relevant without actually being helpful. Ocelot II Aug 2022 #4

What would be helpful? Cheerleading? enough Aug 2022 #6

Maybe he could talk about why he supports the bill? Johnny2X2X Aug 2022 #8

Actually he is laying out the fact that 0 Republicans are willing to address these issues ColinC Aug 2022 #12

Is this the time and place for that? Johnny2X2X Aug 2022 #13

It's the Senate floor. It is EXACTLY the time and place for it ColinC Aug 2022 #16

Then why deride the bill by calling it the "so called Inflation Reduction Act"? lapucelle Aug 2022 #20

The Midterms are coming right up Cha Aug 2022 #32

Why lie? ColinC Aug 2022 #44

I'm NOT "LYING".. I'm Going With REALITY.. Cha Aug 2022 #53

Of Course You're Not Lying Cha Me. Aug 2022 #59

lol.. oh is that WHY? Cha Aug 2022 #62

Who said you were lying? ColinC Aug 2022 #73

The CBO said this will not significantly reduce inflation G2theD Aug 2022 #163

It is a. Victory. The idea that one must get everything at once and never compromise is Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #84

BBB was turned into the IRA after it was gutted to about 1/10 of the original bill ColinC Aug 2022 #86

It is a victory . Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #88

It is a glimpse of what's to come if we win full control of the legislature. ColinC Aug 2022 #90

+1 nt JoeOtterbein Aug 2022 #57

Exactly! mountain grammy Aug 2022 #69

Billions of dollars of tax subsidies for fossil fuels ( which are already making record profits) is questionseverything Aug 2022 #19

It reduces our carbon output 40% Johnny2X2X Aug 2022 #22

How does it reduce out carbon output when all those questionseverything Aug 2022 #27

Do people get that we had to take some bad for the greater good? Johnny2X2X Aug 2022 #29

No mention in that link about the new fossils being extracted questionseverything Aug 2022 #35

Just discussing too Johnny2X2X Aug 2022 #42

I must confess I'm not aware that it does that. How does it reduce our carbon output 40%? Autumn Aug 2022 #28

This totally baffles me too - womanofthehills Aug 2022 #76

I saw that and I don't understand that either. It does a lot for businesses with the tax credits Autumn Aug 2022 #110

its provisions could cut greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions 37-41 percent below 2005 levels krawhitham Aug 2022 #78

Is there any information on how the provisions cut it? Or what those provisions are? Autumn Aug 2022 #103

cheerlead what you can get because the Rs are not going treestar Aug 2022 #157

Call a modest improvement a big win quakerboy Aug 2022 #66

Yes this is the time to talk about it. While the bill is being debated and is up for a vote Autumn Aug 2022 #119

No, he emphasized both sides, that Americans think "Neither party is responding to them," betsuni Aug 2022 #80

First of all that is a fing lie. And Sen Sanders should not say it. This is what is possible. Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #87

Yes, Americans want bipartisanship. They don't know it's Republicans' fault for being 100% betsuni Aug 2022 #89

Cheerleading Dem victories isn't good? AZSkiffyGeek Aug 2022 #34

The idea that without constant criticism, being pushed/pulled to the left, threats not to vote if betsuni Aug 2022 #41

Yes it is...this a remakable bill and should celebrated. The idea that constant criticism makes Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #126

That's certainly my way of thinking. Just A Box Of Rain Aug 2022 #147

+1. Also the Rs do that treestar Aug 2022 #159

Cheerleading would be good. Scrivener7 Aug 2022 #36

This is the best deal we can get. At this point, he helps Relublicans. People complain about Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #83

Bernie is going to be the star of a number of RNC attack ads in the midterms LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2022 #40

Me too. It's already happening. Bernie says it's no good, translating Nixie Aug 2022 #151

When in need of a parade to shit on, the independent Senator 48656c6c6f20 Aug 2022 #5

He just goes on and on and on with the same speech he has given over the past Bev54 Aug 2022 #50

Few days? AZSkiffyGeek Aug 2022 #60

10 years? LisaM Aug 2022 #64

Fair enough AZSkiffyGeek Aug 2022 #65

I suppose that means you haven't had time to read his writings in the Liberty Union Party newspaper Just A Box Of Rain Aug 2022 #154

You mean the "women like rape" stuff? AZSkiffyGeek Aug 2022 #155

No, more like his thoughts on the role of the state in owning the means of production Just A Box Of Rain Aug 2022 #161

Well I suppose, but I don't usually listen to him but I have been following Bev54 Aug 2022 #67

SO TRUE! If only the Rs had a "Bernie" from their side! treestar Aug 2022 #162

JFC, just pass the bill already!! aeromanKC Aug 2022 #7

I WANT THE INSULIN CAP TO GO INTO EFFECT BEFORE THE MID-TERMS! 70sEraVet Aug 2022 #9

If you have private or no insurance, there will be no cap from this bill. I'm still trying to find Celerity Aug 2022 #43

There will be no cap in this bill unless the republicans vote with dems on Bev54 Aug 2022 #51

Many "little guys and gals" vote for Republicans that don't even support this JI7 Aug 2022 #10

One would think he would Cha Aug 2022 #56

Economic anxiety. The system is "corrupt and rigged," both parties are the same betsuni Aug 2022 #70

Yes, West Virginia votes for Right Wingers. Manchin is the most liberal person they are currently JI7 Aug 2022 #96

+1 million zillion treestar Aug 2022 #160

Seriously, don't rely on Sanders' interpretation. Hortensis Aug 2022 #11

Why don't you tell us what he is misinterpreting? questionseverything Aug 2022 #21

All I hear are blowhard crickets. G2theD Aug 2022 #58

We all need to inform ourselves as if we had no partisan loyalties Hortensis Aug 2022 #120

The CBO noted it does nothing for inflation Sympthsical Aug 2022 #77

What Democratic legislation has passed in the past 10 years that he didn't dislike? Scrivener7 Aug 2022 #14

Oh come on mahina Aug 2022 #17

. Scrivener7 Aug 2022 #26

+1 MrsCoffee Aug 2022 #107

So are you against the bill? Kingofalldems Aug 2022 #15

A win is a win. Politics ain't pretty. Nt Baked Potato Aug 2022 #23

lower prices on 10 drugs that comes into play in 4 years and not everyone gets them at Autumn Aug 2022 #24

It's not a perfect bill Novara Aug 2022 #25

No one said it's perfect. Johnny2X2X Aug 2022 #30

In the history of our country there has never been a perfect bill. Scrivener7 Aug 2022 #33

If he doesn't leverage his vote, his objections don't really matter 867-5309. Aug 2022 #31

Exactly. All he is doing is reiterating the progre agenda -much of which will likely be a reality if ColinC Aug 2022 #47

This is no longer MR SMITH GOES TO WASHINGTON... brooklynite Aug 2022 #37

This floor spectacle tonight NewsCenter28 Aug 2022 #79

Sanders has been more helpful than Manchin or Sinema, and he's earned the right to say what he wants Music Man Aug 2022 #38

Absolutely! Drum Aug 2022 #72

No he has not been helpful. This is the best we can do and I am pleased personally.. Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #85

So are you just as mad at warnock? questionseverything Aug 2022 #102

How so? N/T lapucelle Aug 2022 #91

Good question. MrsCoffee Aug 2022 #109

I trust the CBO LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2022 #39

Hmmmm........ AntivaxHunters Aug 2022 #45

+10,000 ColinC Aug 2022 #46

Sweden bans extraction of coal, oil and natural gas and tightens rules on extraction from alum shale Celerity Aug 2022 #54

This Walker Bragman? lapucelle Aug 2022 #92

Are you upset at Sen Warnock too? AntivaxHunters Aug 2022 #93

Why would anyone dump Walker Bragman's garbage here on DU? lapucelle Aug 2022 #95

Why are you deflecting? AntivaxHunters Aug 2022 #97

Deflecting what? lapucelle Aug 2022 #105

Why couldn't you come up with a better source than Walker Bragman? kcr Aug 2022 #134

This is a right wing source. You should self - delete. Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #139

"Also what Walker said..." lapucelle Aug 2022 #94

Now do Warnock AntivaxHunters Aug 2022 #98

Democrats have known about Senator Warnock's amendment since Thursday. lapucelle Aug 2022 #99

So warnock's amendments are fine but Bernie is horrid for doing the same? questionseverything Aug 2022 #104

My post was about Walker Bragman's garbage being dumped here. lapucelle Aug 2022 #108

Bernie's amendments are to help the American people questionseverything Aug 2022 #111

How? He's the chair of the Budget Committee. He knows how reconciliation works. lapucelle Aug 2022 #114

Bernie and warnock are both offering amendments as is their right as senators questionseverything Aug 2022 #116

What are you talking about? What "negative accusations"? lapucelle Aug 2022 #121

You don't get to direct any senators and decide what they should be doing questionseverything Aug 2022 #127

So you've dropped the claim that I'm "depressing the Democratic vote by making negative accusations" lapucelle Aug 2022 #133

For shame, the guy you quote is a Jill Stein voter and endorsed her...not a credible source...it Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #143

"The GOP approves this message" brooklynite Aug 2022 #49

was there not a bill recently that even though it was YoshidaYui Aug 2022 #55

Hallelujah! AZSkiffyGeek Aug 2022 #61

What has Bernie done to get a better bill mcar Aug 2022 #52

Good question. The negotiations needed unity for results. Months Nixie Aug 2022 #74

+1 betsuni Aug 2022 #75

Tell us again how many bills Sanders has written that became law? AZ8theist Aug 2022 #63

But her emails. LuvLoogie Aug 2022 #68

I don't know StrkSrviver Aug 2022 #71

How? He says both sides. betsuni Aug 2022 #81

That is untrue, Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #82

Bernie is grandstanding Johnny2X2X Aug 2022 #100

Same for warnock? Right? questionseverything Aug 2022 #106

Did Senator Warnock open the debate with a speech trash-talking the bill? lapucelle Aug 2022 #112

Both senators are wanting to add pieces the original legislation is missing questionseverything Aug 2022 #113

You didn't answer the questions. N/T lapucelle Aug 2022 #115

Both senators are offering amendments questionseverything Aug 2022 #117

That particular logical fallacy has several names. lapucelle Aug 2022 #123

I know you think this is a gotcha moment but it is not. Warnock represents Georgia who did Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #125

I have no problem with warnock offering amendments questionseverything Aug 2022 #129

Respect is earned and is a two way street. MrsCoffee Aug 2022 #131

It is not a matter of respect. It is a matter of what is possible. Sen. Sanders knows that what Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #138

A "gotcha moment"? I think there's a distinction between what the two senators are doing. lapucelle Aug 2022 #130

Sen. Warnock will vote for the bill. I doubt it would affect the parlimentarian review anyway. Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #136

This Roll Call article gives a good overview on Democratic strategy on amendments to this bill. lapucelle Aug 2022 #144

That makes sense thank you...we don't want our folks hurt during this vote. Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #156

Madame Vice President just broke the tie on the Warner amendment... lapucelle Aug 2022 #158

You do understand that all the amendments are being objected to and will not keep the bill from Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #141

Yes. N/T lapucelle Aug 2022 #145

One of these things is not like the other. MrsCoffee Aug 2022 #122

No, as far as I know, neither Sinema nor Manchin are against expanding health care to Georgia. Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #124

Bernie's amendments are important issues for Americans questionseverything Aug 2022 #128

No they are not at the moment...no chance of getting any of them...no amendment will be Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #148

Just like warnock's questionseverything Aug 2022 #150

And he's doing it 4 months before one of the most important elections in our history. Scrivener7 Aug 2022 #118

He's a breaker for sure! boston bean Aug 2022 #101

But, we got Joe Biden a legacy for the history books. nt Hotler Aug 2022 #132

Bernie doing his best to depress Dem turnout Johnny2X2X Aug 2022 #135

Bernie telling the truth as always. Autumn Aug 2022 #142

Then why is he voting for it? Johnny2X2X Aug 2022 #149

Because he believes we must not let the perfect be the enemy of the good. Autumn Aug 2022 #153

'so called' spanone Aug 2022 #137

All of these amendments will be objected to and when this vot-a-rama is over... the bill will be Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #140

What is truly sad is your post which helps Republicans... Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #146

... BannonsLiver Aug 2022 #152