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Hekate

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44. That's quite possible, altho some of the same people show up every year with the same rant...
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 02:26 PM
Aug 2022

…that whitewashes Japan’s actual conduct in the Greater East Asia War and paints the US as the blackest villain in history for the way we made their rulers finally surrender.

They know better than to whitewash Germany’s behavior in WWII on this board — Jewish Americans have made quite sure that piece of history will not be forgotten by anyone sane.

But I think it is our reflexive orientation toward Europe and widespread ignorance of all things Asian that has allowed otherwise intelligent people to not acknowledge the evil that seized Japan and made them Hitler’s ally. The Rape of Nanking and the Bataan Death March were only two of the most notorious horrors.

The US helped a devastated Japan rebuild and to write a meaningful Constitution, and Japan became an economic powerhouse and a strong US ally. As Professor Akita said to my Japanese History class back in 1968, everything they tried to accomplish by war, they instead gained by peace.

But Dr. Akita, a Nisei himself, teaching at University of Hawai’i, never whitewashed history.

On this date in 1945 [View all] Dyedinthewoolliberal Aug 2022 OP
In hind sight, it was wrong. It opened a Pandora's box problems. marble falls Aug 2022 #1
We were not the only ones developing this bomb. Actually I shudder to think what vicious Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #5
Stalin did have the bomb. Wednesdays Aug 2022 #17
My father was in the Navy at Iwo Jima and Okinawa. TexasTowelie Aug 2022 #2
Same here my friend HAB911 Aug 2022 #6
Thank the stars you are here. William769 Aug 2022 #34
I think the A-bomb was inevitable in 1945 Vogon_Glory Aug 2022 #3
I have always wondered about that. But I do believe in the end it probably saved lives...definitely Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #4
Japan would not surrender, that was the problem. fightforfreedom Aug 2022 #7
They were training PRE-schoolers to fight Leith Aug 2022 #12
What you say is true, Leith Hekate Aug 2022 #35
Stories of Japanese child survivors of the Battle of Okinawa are tragic, how many children blew betsuni Aug 2022 #37
The Big Bang lastlib Aug 2022 #8
Yes, America Did the Right Thing. Japan Attacked Pearl Harbor. Started a World War.. Stuart G Aug 2022 #9
The U.S.A. was never going to invade the Japanese homeland. hunter Aug 2022 #10
This will always be debated but I have to admit that we did not value Japanese lives above non-Asian CTyankee Aug 2022 #11
It does make one wonder... hunter Aug 2022 #14
There was a plan to bomb Hamburg Javaman Aug 2022 #18
Very likely we would have. Nazi Germany was hard at work on its own nuclear project. nt Hekate Aug 2022 #40
Read up on operation downfall before you make statements like that Javaman Aug 2022 #16
It's all hypothetical. hunter Aug 2022 #23
It's documented that the dept of war ( at the time) Javaman Aug 2022 #31
I'm well read on this subject. I simply have a different take on history. hunter Aug 2022 #32
Ah time for DU's 22nd annual debate over the events of August 1945 BannonsLiver Aug 2022 #13
There are interesting ethical questions here... hunter Aug 2022 #20
Of course and those discussions are worthwhile. BannonsLiver Aug 2022 #30
Yep. Last year somebody claimed that the US govt suppressed evidence of the results... Hekate Aug 2022 #36
It must be a different revisionist obsession du jour every year. BannonsLiver Aug 2022 #43
That's quite possible, altho some of the same people show up every year with the same rant... Hekate Aug 2022 #44
Sorry, duplicate Hekate Aug 2022 #45
We would have used them again and and if needed Javaman Aug 2022 #15
I had relatives serving in the war in the Pacific. harumph Aug 2022 #19
Japan did lots of horrible things in the war Calculating Aug 2022 #21
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Let Us Be Clear About What 'Blockade' Is In This Context, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2022 #42
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If history went down that path sarisataka Aug 2022 #27
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In the long run it may have been good sarisataka Aug 2022 #47
I'd be curious what a consensus of modern Japanese historians think about this Silent3 Aug 2022 #22
My understanding is that their version of the Greater East Asia War differs from our version of... Hekate Aug 2022 #38
+1 betsuni Aug 2022 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author WarGamer Aug 2022 #24
8 days after I was born. MineralMan Aug 2022 #29
They were the ones who decided to wake the sleeping giant, and they did it in a cowardly way. William769 Aug 2022 #33
The snag is anamnua Aug 2022 #41
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