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Captain Zero

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18. Yes white working class less Unionized and way more religiosity

Mon Aug 8, 2022, 06:26 AM

Aug 2022

I know it from my family cousins in Ohio.
Even the generation that was unionized started slipping due to racism.
Then the next generation was stripped of unions and supplied fervent, unregulated Christianity in place of mainline denominations.
It looks like to me that gerrymandering has some definite effect.

So those three underlined.
Plus from the youngest generation there I am observing shit like confederate flags and low education levels. Which may be just a symptom of what I have underlined.

Although Sherrod Brown seems to have no trouble winning?
Maybe he can carry Mansfield, where one of my uncles lived, and Sherrod lives there too.

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