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5. No, it was a raid

Tue Aug 9, 2022, 11:26 AM

Aug 2022

A raid is the term of art for an operation where the police show up without warning and demand access to a place where they aren't wanted for any reason. Just as someone doesn't have to touch you for it to be assault, you don't have to put people in cuffs and force them to the ground for an operation to be a raid.

It would not be a raid if the agents had called ahead, been invited in, and only asked the residents to voluntarily produce the items they wanted to look at. But that's not what happened. They showed up without warning and made it clear NO was not an acceptable answer. If anyone had resisted those cuffs would have come out.

It was a textbook example of what the police call a raid.

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Please stop calling this a "raid." [View all] Novara Aug 2022 OP

Maga Laga was SEARCHED... 2naSalit Aug 2022 #1

OH, REICH WING, by RAID you mean "Served a warrant on HE who shall not be named"? TigressDem Aug 2022 #2

Why do people need to parse words? LakeArenal Aug 2022 #3

Because NONE of those definitions apply to the events at Mar-A-Lago. Mariana Aug 2022 #14

You are so stretching. LakeArenal Aug 2022 #18

Oh, I know. It would be better to call it a search Mariana Aug 2022 #20

Ummm, you left out sudden unweird Aug 2022 #34

I copy and pasted as I found it. But continue parsing words and missing points. LakeArenal Aug 2022 #35

I was reading your response unweird Aug 2022 #36

Invasion: an incursion by a large number of people or things into a place or sphere of activity krawhitham Aug 2022 #49

You are correct. H2O Man Aug 2022 #37

Raid implies criminal RANDYWILDMAN Aug 2022 #4

No, it was a raid localroger Aug 2022 #5

There was warning. BlackSkimmer Aug 2022 #6

Lol this is definitely a raid. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2022 #7

He would think it's a raid. Turbineguy Aug 2022 #8

Glenn Kirschner said this exact thing, and he knows the correct terms MagickMuffin Aug 2022 #9

This thread inspired this 🤭 underpants Aug 2022 #10

+1 H2O Man Aug 2022 #39

My local newspaper got it right. Ocelot II Aug 2022 #11

Yeah---CNN reported they had the authority to knock down doors. Kingofalldems Aug 2022 #12

That's pretty standard with search warrants, I believe. Mariana Aug 2022 #16

And they gave warning to tfg and his lawyers. BlackSkimmer Aug 2022 #51

That was my point. Kingofalldems Aug 2022 #56

I imagine... MissMillie Aug 2022 #13

It's a raid. Iggo Aug 2022 #15

In reality it doesn't match your TV fantasy Novara Aug 2022 #19

Thank you. You are spot on. BlackSkimmer Aug 2022 #41

Thank you Novara Aug 2022 #45

It's not a raid if people don't resist? Cool rule. Iggo Aug 2022 #50

Tfg wasn't even there. His lawyers and the SS all knew of it. BlackSkimmer Aug 2022 #52

But it's not H2O Man Aug 2022 #42

I agree, it's much better to call it a search. Mariana Aug 2022 #17

It's a national security red alert C_U_L8R Aug 2022 #21

I like what Pelosi called it . FoxNewsSucks Aug 2022 #22

The Associated Press is referring to this as a "search." mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2022 #23

I'm fine with raid, thank you very much lanlady Aug 2022 #24

Exactly. Trump doesn't deserve the more dignified word for it. NH Ethylene Aug 2022 #30

But he wasn't. He and his lawyers had full warning ahead of time. BlackSkimmer Aug 2022 #43

I'd bet they didnt "break into the safe" either GusBob Aug 2022 #25

I Doubt It, Too ProfessorGAC Aug 2022 #26

Police use that term all the time. patphil Aug 2022 #27

"They broke into my safe!" orangecrush Aug 2022 #28

That would've been fun. NH Ethylene Aug 2022 #31

who cares? the real issue is did they find anything? Kali Aug 2022 #29

+1 H2O Man Aug 2022 #40

Okay. lpbk2713 Aug 2022 #32

I like calling it a raid. NH Ethylene Aug 2022 #33

As an older, mature women, I realized back in my 30's, cksmithy Aug 2022 #38

nope, it wasn't forcible Novara Aug 2022 #46

The signed search warrant was the "force" SilasSouleII Aug 2022 #59

Exactly Novara Aug 2022 #60

THIS localroger Aug 2022 #61

I like raid. nt LexVegas Aug 2022 #44

It was a raid, it was a surprise visit by police to arrest suspected people or seize illicit goods. krawhitham Aug 2022 #47

Agree! cksmithy Aug 2022 #62

Not just not a raid.. it was a nothing. quakerboy Aug 2022 #48

Woids is woids. ificandream Aug 2022 #53

The existing title at Wikipedia is mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2022 #54

Oh, come on, now! markpkessinger Aug 2022 #55

"Many people are saying it was the greatest raid ever." Saboburns Aug 2022 #57

Best response ever!!!!!! H2O Man Aug 2022 #58

This was not a raid but the execution of a valid search warrant signed by TFG appointed judge LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2022 #63

This message was self-deleted by its author Chautauquas Aug 2022 #64

The FBI conducted a warranted search. Hermit-The-Prog Aug 2022 #65

+1 rogue emissary Aug 2022 #66

Raids can also be illicit. Don't use the word "raid". applegrove Aug 2022 #67