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BlueStreak

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24. I am not a lawyer, but I believe judges are supposed to issue TROs when ...

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 05:31 PM

Nov 2012

it appears likely the underlying claim may have merit AND

failure to issue a TRO would be likely to result in irreparable damages.

I'd think it would be very straightforward to make both of these points. In other words, no harm comes to the state if the state is compelled to accept all provisional ballots on election day, and to arbitrate their validity in court after the fact, if necessary. The idea of destroying provision ballots or denying the voter the opportunity to complete a provisional ballot is absolutely outrageous.

I'd think they might be able to go back to the same Federal court that heard the case of the restricted voting hours.

Did Ohio have a voter-ID law overturned? If so, they might be able to get a TRO from that court on Monday.

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Last-Minute Ohio Directive Could Trash Legal Votes And Swing The Election [View all] Segami Nov 2012 OP

Law, schmaw. This is Ohio. Jackpine Radical Nov 2012 #1

At first glance, this looks pretty bad. Anyone have any experience yet with this? riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #2

Supposedly the idea is to eliminate poll worker errors as the cause for throwing out the ballot Maeve Nov 2012 #26

I actually don't see this as impacting much. Ms. Toad Nov 2012 #48

That guy just doesn't stop, does he? LisaL Nov 2012 #3

Not until he's rotting in jail... HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #5

And order the bailiff to throw Husted in jail for a minimum of 364 days. Panasonic Nov 2012 #61

He will reject them all because the ink was too dark or something! He needs to go to jail! Dustlawyer Nov 2012 #78

Those fuckers. They will stop at nothing. K&R KaryninMiami Nov 2012 #4

Wow, were you given water or food on line? flamingdem Nov 2012 #6

Husted and Scott. LisaL Nov 2012 #16

Rick Scott is an asshole SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #19

I really think we have it already in early votes rbrnmw Nov 2012 #7

I want you to be right however it's not 2004 in many ways flamingdem Nov 2012 #17

I don't think we should just watch Husted trying to throw out tens of thousands potential votes. LisaL Nov 2012 #18

We don't need no law dogs in Ohio. tavernier Nov 2012 #8

This is why the tout state rights when they don't hold the Whitehouse. So they can corrupt the vote. The Wielding Truth Nov 2012 #9

Kick and rec...n/t littlemissmartypants Nov 2012 #10

And again. Supersedeas Nov 2012 #76

Muthafuckas progressoid Nov 2012 #11

Is there any chance of getting an injunction on Monday? BlueStreak Nov 2012 #12

My guess is that O's team is looking into that...if they think a judge will grant it... CTyankee Nov 2012 #15

I am not a lawyer, but I believe judges are supposed to issue TROs when ... BlueStreak Nov 2012 #24

I would think a judge would be pretty outraged by this tactic as well... CTyankee Nov 2012 #29

And the whole point of a PROVISIONAL ballot in the first place BlueStreak Nov 2012 #35

Yes! CTyankee Nov 2012 #37

Is this directive saying that if the person says includes their last 4 digits or their SS# Maraya1969 Nov 2012 #39

No. Ms. Toad Nov 2012 #62

Would be nice to see that.. socialindependocrat Nov 2012 #69

Well... Ms. Toad Nov 2012 #74

Nothing in the directive suggests destroying ballots. Ms. Toad Nov 2012 #59

The directive relieves poll workers of their responsibility to try to get correct info BlueStreak Nov 2012 #71

The directive does not change anything the pollworkers are doing. Ms. Toad Nov 2012 #73

The BoE workers have a moral responsibility if not a legal one BlueStreak Nov 2012 #77

Sorry if I seem frustrated - Ms. Toad Nov 2012 #79

OK. Thank you for that explanation BlueStreak Nov 2012 #80

They can start sorting them on Wednesday into different catogories Ms. Toad Nov 2012 #81

They need to get that injunction after the vote but before certification...so corrupt. bkkyosemite Nov 2012 #47

So a PASSPORT isn't good enough ID?!???!!? kath Nov 2012 #13

According to the SoS website, it is. a la izquierda Nov 2012 #22

You don't need an Ohio ID SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #23

A lot of ballots could be provisional this year. LisaL Nov 2012 #25

Yes, I understand that SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #30

You can also take your absentee ballot to the BOE before voting ends Maeve Nov 2012 #31

Is it? From what I could tell poking around the various OH websites, a passport is not kath Nov 2012 #27

You are correct--it's about the address Maeve Nov 2012 #33

I started to answer - Ms. Toad Nov 2012 #43

!!!!! Maeve Nov 2012 #44

Yeah, I suppose you we're right... a la izquierda Nov 2012 #36

Passport doesn't have an address on it gravity Nov 2012 #32

Theoretically, the issue isn't residence Ms. Toad Nov 2012 #45

Throw his ass in prison Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #14

If he is trying to subvert the vote... liberalmuse Nov 2012 #20

Asshole, yes SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #21

It is called "voting suppression" and it has been trademarked and patented by the Republicans Coyotl Nov 2012 #28

I remember grade school civics/history class we discussed the Voter's Rights Act. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2012 #34

An act or law is only as good as its enforcement! ananda Nov 2012 #38

HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Nov 2012 #40

However the courts sulphurdunn Nov 2012 #41

This ruling will be smacked down before 10:00 AM Monday Botany Nov 2012 #42

How many early votes were already cast before directive came out, probably nullifying them? julian09 Nov 2012 #46

First - the directive doesn't affect all early votes - Ms. Toad Nov 2012 #50

Thank you for this in-depth explanation! SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #56

Friday is really short - Ms. Toad Nov 2012 #63

Simple Mistake Could Cost Your Vote. cynzke Nov 2012 #49

No. Ms. Toad Nov 2012 #64

Why Can't DOJ JAIL THIS FUCKER? triplepoint Nov 2012 #51

Let us repeat: WHY IS HUSTED NOT IN JAIL? garthranzz Nov 2012 #52

Provisional Ballots Go Right Into the Trash--They Are "Placebo Ballots" triplepoint Nov 2012 #53

While it is clearly better to avoid a provisional ballot, Ms. Toad Nov 2012 #65

Sounds Good.....but triplepoint Nov 2012 #67

I am an observer in a R county in Ohio, Ms. Toad Nov 2012 #68

Again, many thanks for helping clear up misunderstandings of how Ohio works Maeve Nov 2012 #70

You're welcome Ms. Toad Nov 2012 #75

. blkmusclmachine Nov 2012 #54

Totally Shameless Larry66 Nov 2012 #55

So, the law says county election official employees are supposed to fill out the form, right? patrice Nov 2012 #57

They are obligated to verify the ID Ms. Toad Nov 2012 #66

So much stuff on Husted that it is clear he is completely corrupted by power. nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2012 #58

Husted is already breaking Ohio law. Panasonic Nov 2012 #60

Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 #72