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Ms. Toad

(38,664 posts)
52. That's roughly what I"m paying.
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 01:32 PM
Aug 2022

On top of that, I've paid $233 for medical/hospital care (the anual deductible).

I've been hospitalized twice, had follow-up care for 2 cancers, two or three MRIs, a couple of X-rays, a HIDA scan (nuclear medicine test), 2 CT scans, an ultrasound, an ambulance ride, 2 ER visits (both resulting in hospitlaizations), costly blood tests, and my routine care. The total cost for that has been the $233 deductible. My father's plan is the same, except he has to pay $20 per doctor's visit. My mother's plan is more expensive, but includes paying for the deductible - so her costs are just the monthly premiums (her plan is not availalbe unless you are ~68).

I chose not to purchase AARP's Wellness plans which include dental/vision/hearing/silver sneakers. Those plans cost a bit more per month ($5 - $30/month with a slightly different pricing structure.) When we looked at it, the lifetime costs were enough higher that we rejected that option. But if you are looking for the more comprehensive and flexible coverage of a supplement plan and still want some of the "freebies" which MA often throws in, I'd go that route rather than a MA plan.

I also have a Part D (drug) plan. That is a separate part of Medicare. Some MA plans include drug coverage, some don't. When drug coverage is included in a Medicare Advantage plan, the coverage is subject to the Medicare rules (so you still get the donut hole, and after you emerge from the donut hole, coverage is at 95% - with no cap on your expenses for the rest of the year).

If I had decided to go with a MA plan, I probably would have chosen one without Part D bundled in. The formularies in Part D plans vary tremendously from year to year. Your costs for a particular medicine one year might be $108 the year you choose the plan, and jump to $1407 the next year (the actual difference we found for a single drug when shopping plans). Insurance companies count on you not shopping plans. If you buy drug coverage separately you can keep the MA plan you like (they tend to be more stable) and just switch your drug insurance plan for the best drug pricing. (Not recommending a MA plan - they keep the worst of how insurance plans operate, and are so heavily marketed people don't recognize until too late what they are giving up.)

Here's info on the donut hole, if you haven't encountered it before:

https://www.medicare.gov/drug-coverage-part-d/costs-for-medicare-drug-coverage/costs-in-the-coverage-gap

My drug plan costs $12.90/month; my spouse's costs $7.10, so you can get a Part D plan relatively cheaply. We shop drugs and buy less than half through our plans. The rest we buy through Costco mailorder - which is significantly cheaper for many drugs. My anticipated total out-of-pocket drug costs for this year (including premiums) is $342.46, plus any new medications my doctor adds (which I couldn't predict at the time I priced things out)

Great job starting early! I hadn't planned on retiring until I hit 72 - so I hadn't even started exploring Medicare when I was unexpectedly retired in October, and had 2 months to research and make a lifetime decision. (Once you choose original Medicare, you are generally stuck with the carrier and Plan you choose for the rest of your life. The rules on switching plans (they don't have to issue you a plan; they can charge what they feel like) apply to changing companies, and sometimes to changing plans. on the AARP Wellness plans, you can switch to less comprehensive coverage but not to more comprehensive coverage for example. If you want more coverage, they price it based on your health at the time of the switch.

That was quite a crash course - I spent about 200 hours researching to sort all of this out and then choose a plan.

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There are YouTube videos that help explain all of this. I don't have any particular links. SWBTATTReg Aug 2022 #1
I personally would not havd Advantage SheltieLover Aug 2022 #2
There is good and bad in both...Advantage plans cover medications that Original doesn't. Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #38
+1 William769 Aug 2022 #70
Maybe get Medicare with a supplement and drug plan supplement. boston bean Aug 2022 #3
That's what I do SCantiGOP Aug 2022 #4
Exactly What We Have ProfessorGAC Aug 2022 #21
I have the same. kskiska Aug 2022 #61
steer clear of Medicare Advantage, it is a scam Skittles Aug 2022 #5
Yes it is! You cannot chose your drs for starters. It's the gqp way of privatizing medicare PortTack Aug 2022 #13
My parents were able to choose Dr. The same way anyone else with insurance does... JCMach1 Aug 2022 #53
Here's just one of my points. PortTack Aug 2022 #64
Transparently I am prosinglepayer for everyone JCMach1 Aug 2022 #65
The other really big disadvantage with these plans, should you decide to go back to medicare PortTack Aug 2022 #66
Just like the take, or leave aspect of ACA these are things that need JCMach1 Aug 2022 #67
This message was self-deleted by its author TxGuitar Aug 2022 #48
I have Medicare montanacowboy Aug 2022 #6
What is your premium dollar amount per month and MOMFUDSKI Aug 2022 #15
You are comparing apples to oranges. Ms. Toad Aug 2022 #28
I have Advantage plan also, the only reason my eliquis is covered is because it is advantage. Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #45
How much monthly out of pocket for your set up. Curious. I have a good five years LizBeth Aug 2022 #44
I have Medicare with supplement Tree Lady Aug 2022 #7
Get a MediGap plan WaterSong1951 Aug 2022 #8
Here is my read. I am two years into Medicare with a Supplemental Plan. This limits me to c-rational Aug 2022 #9
All of the doctors and hospitals in my area accept the Advantage plan I am on Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #49
Traditional Medicare is the better choice for most over time. Big Blue Marble Aug 2022 #10
I was told the Advantage plans is a republican plot to do away Emile Aug 2022 #11
All I can tell you is I have straight Medicare and I just had hip replacement surgery that Vinca Aug 2022 #12
We live full time in a motorhome and travel from coast to coast across the US & Canada... Enter stage left Aug 2022 #14
THANK YOU ALL for replying to my post. It is the information that I needed. RicROC Aug 2022 #16
When I retired I chose an Advantage plan. scarletlib Aug 2022 #17
You are not stupid. The information is incredibly confusing. Ms. Toad Aug 2022 #29
Thank you very much. Hermit-The-Prog Aug 2022 #59
I did my homework and chose medicare with supplement. redstatebluegirl Aug 2022 #18
I have Medicare and a supplemental Ritabert Aug 2022 #19
My former employer offers us a Medicare Advantage PPO plan that allows you walkingman Aug 2022 #20
Those are often as expensive as a supplement plan - but cover less. Ms. Toad Aug 2022 #32
My parents have always paid 0... For either JCMach1 Aug 2022 #54
Medicare now (at least) covers home hospice care. Ms. Toad Aug 2022 #55
Bringing us to it's way overly complicated and circles back again JCMach1 Aug 2022 #56
No argument here! n/t Ms. Toad Aug 2022 #57
Good post on KOS the other day jojog Aug 2022 #22
We have always snowybirdie Aug 2022 #23
I ended up in the hospital twice this year. Ms. Toad Aug 2022 #34
I have had a an echocardIagram, countless EKG, CAT SCAN,MRI, Sleep study, Stress test and Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #47
One clarification - Ms. Toad Aug 2022 #51
When I tried Timewas Aug 2022 #24
Have you been to a pre-retirement class SharonClark Aug 2022 #25
On the Medicare Part D - Ms. Toad Aug 2022 #35
Your broker is incorrect - Medicare is not scary at all. Ms. Toad Aug 2022 #26
so you are paying about 276 a month and about all medical this year has been covered? LizBeth Aug 2022 #46
That's roughly what I"m paying. Ms. Toad Aug 2022 #52
I would never select Medicare Advantage. Too many snake clauses and hidden kairos12 Aug 2022 #27
Medicare Advantage is not a "Medicare Plan" moose65 Aug 2022 #30
Previous discussions... keithbvadu2 Aug 2022 #31
+1 Emile Aug 2022 #39
Medicare decides what is covered and the limit. Cap on what doctors and hospitals can charge. LiberalFighter Aug 2022 #33
What's the catch, then? moose65 Aug 2022 #36
It is part of my retirement benefit that was union negotiated. LiberalFighter Aug 2022 #50
As someone who works with it from the provider side Horse with no Name Aug 2022 #37
If the US gov't wanted to save Medicare, RicROC Aug 2022 #40
I no longer have any skin in the Medicare game - But, it would seem that there are two disadvantages GoneOffShore Aug 2022 #41
My mom is on Medicare and pays nothing if she's JoanofArgh Aug 2022 #42
HI, IT'S ME AGAIN...... Hotler Aug 2022 #43
call NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW Skittles Aug 2022 #60
Skittles you didn't finish. It could be what ????? Hotler Aug 2022 #62
(clapping my hands) Skittles Aug 2022 #63
Get a Medigap Plan to supplement Medicare. My advice is Do Not get an Advantage Plan which Nanjeanne Aug 2022 #58
K/R Medicare v Medicare Advantage appalachiablue Aug 2022 #68
Medicare Advantage is out for one thing only, making money! William769 Aug 2022 #69
One risk pool is a health care system. Multiple risk pools is an investment scheme. Ron Green Aug 2022 #71
Okay, I'm going to be toast!!! hamsterjill Aug 2022 #72
When any insurance agent comes to my house to explain his product, RicROC Aug 2022 #73
Yep. hamsterjill Aug 2022 #75
Medicare 'Advantage' is a private insurance plan paid for with Medicare funds. mackdaddy Aug 2022 #74
+1 Spot On! Emile Aug 2022 #76
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