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Nanjeanne

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58. Get a Medigap Plan to supplement Medicare. My advice is Do Not get an Advantage Plan which
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 03:24 PM
Aug 2022

is a private insurance plan (subsidized by taxpayers -- but don't get me started on that stupidity). The Advantage plans are typically cheaper than what your Medicare plus Gap plan might be but are usually much more restrictive which might not be an issue when you aren't ill - but can become extremely troublesome when you are. And honestly, the Medicare plus Gap isn't a huge amount of money out of our pocket although more than the Advantage policies seem to be.

Anecdotal but here's an example. We spoke to advisor when we turned 65 and (luckily it turned out) when we said we wanted the freedom to go to any doctor, not have to deal with what state we might be in as we travel, wanted freedom to seek out specialists, etc. steered us to regular Medicare plus a Medigap Policy N. Medigap Policies cover the same things no matter where you are - so all N policies are the same, as are all C plans, etc. Private insurance companies that handle these plans compete by price and customer satisfaction. Some plans may not be available in all states - but the Medicare website (not the "fake insurance agent sites) can show you easily what is covered in each Plan A-N.

A few years into Medicare - my husband got diagnosed with multiple myeloma which is a blood cancer disease - termed incurable but "manageable". This was in 2014. Since that time he has had countless chemo treatments, undergone a stem cell transplant and most recently just did a new FDA approved treatment called Car-T. I cannot tell you how much money these treatments cost - it would be blow your mind. We traveled to Dana Farber to have his treatment overseen by a myeloma specialist - did his sct there as well. His regular oncologist is at Yale and he did his CarT treatment there. We have never had an issue with any doctor we wanted to see, or been turned down or had to jump through hoops for any regime he has been on in all these years.

My dear friend and husband wanted to save a few dollars and "loved" their Advantage plan . . . until she was diagnosed with a glioblastoma. Then they found out that even though they lived in New York City - they were only able to see doctors at one hospital in NY. Second opinions were very hard to get. They couldn't choose the surgeon they wanted and weren't able to travel to another state to seek medical advice. Glioblastomas are deadly - and unfortunately when it came time for hospice care - her husband was shocked to find that there was only one facility in Manhattan that he could access and it was not one he wanted to place her in. He found out that he could put her in hospice where he wanted it would have to be covered by Medicare. That meant 80% would be covered but the Advantage plan wouldn't pay anything and he didn't have a supplemental to cover the additional 20. So he went into debt to keep her at the hospice he wanted.

Research on the Medicare.gov website - and try to understand what you ultimately want from your healthcare and what you can afford to do. It's hard to know far in advance what treatments or care you may need but try to look at what is important to you. Switching from Advantage to a Gap is possible with some restrictions - and once you have become ill - you may find you have to wait a certain number of months, etc. It's a shame we have to do so much research and wade through so much confusion to simply get care but our system of healthcare is so screwed up . . . do your homework and think about your future needs before committing. My 2 cents!

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There are YouTube videos that help explain all of this. I don't have any particular links. SWBTATTReg Aug 2022 #1
I personally would not havd Advantage SheltieLover Aug 2022 #2
There is good and bad in both...Advantage plans cover medications that Original doesn't. Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #38
+1 William769 Aug 2022 #70
Maybe get Medicare with a supplement and drug plan supplement. boston bean Aug 2022 #3
That's what I do SCantiGOP Aug 2022 #4
Exactly What We Have ProfessorGAC Aug 2022 #21
I have the same. kskiska Aug 2022 #61
steer clear of Medicare Advantage, it is a scam Skittles Aug 2022 #5
Yes it is! You cannot chose your drs for starters. It's the gqp way of privatizing medicare PortTack Aug 2022 #13
My parents were able to choose Dr. The same way anyone else with insurance does... JCMach1 Aug 2022 #53
Here's just one of my points. PortTack Aug 2022 #64
Transparently I am prosinglepayer for everyone JCMach1 Aug 2022 #65
The other really big disadvantage with these plans, should you decide to go back to medicare PortTack Aug 2022 #66
Just like the take, or leave aspect of ACA these are things that need JCMach1 Aug 2022 #67
This message was self-deleted by its author TxGuitar Aug 2022 #48
I have Medicare montanacowboy Aug 2022 #6
What is your premium dollar amount per month and MOMFUDSKI Aug 2022 #15
You are comparing apples to oranges. Ms. Toad Aug 2022 #28
I have Advantage plan also, the only reason my eliquis is covered is because it is advantage. Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #45
How much monthly out of pocket for your set up. Curious. I have a good five years LizBeth Aug 2022 #44
I have Medicare with supplement Tree Lady Aug 2022 #7
Get a MediGap plan WaterSong1951 Aug 2022 #8
Here is my read. I am two years into Medicare with a Supplemental Plan. This limits me to c-rational Aug 2022 #9
All of the doctors and hospitals in my area accept the Advantage plan I am on Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #49
Traditional Medicare is the better choice for most over time. Big Blue Marble Aug 2022 #10
I was told the Advantage plans is a republican plot to do away Emile Aug 2022 #11
All I can tell you is I have straight Medicare and I just had hip replacement surgery that Vinca Aug 2022 #12
We live full time in a motorhome and travel from coast to coast across the US & Canada... Enter stage left Aug 2022 #14
THANK YOU ALL for replying to my post. It is the information that I needed. RicROC Aug 2022 #16
When I retired I chose an Advantage plan. scarletlib Aug 2022 #17
You are not stupid. The information is incredibly confusing. Ms. Toad Aug 2022 #29
Thank you very much. Hermit-The-Prog Aug 2022 #59
I did my homework and chose medicare with supplement. redstatebluegirl Aug 2022 #18
I have Medicare and a supplemental Ritabert Aug 2022 #19
My former employer offers us a Medicare Advantage PPO plan that allows you walkingman Aug 2022 #20
Those are often as expensive as a supplement plan - but cover less. Ms. Toad Aug 2022 #32
My parents have always paid 0... For either JCMach1 Aug 2022 #54
Medicare now (at least) covers home hospice care. Ms. Toad Aug 2022 #55
Bringing us to it's way overly complicated and circles back again JCMach1 Aug 2022 #56
No argument here! n/t Ms. Toad Aug 2022 #57
Good post on KOS the other day jojog Aug 2022 #22
We have always snowybirdie Aug 2022 #23
I ended up in the hospital twice this year. Ms. Toad Aug 2022 #34
I have had a an echocardIagram, countless EKG, CAT SCAN,MRI, Sleep study, Stress test and Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #47
One clarification - Ms. Toad Aug 2022 #51
When I tried Timewas Aug 2022 #24
Have you been to a pre-retirement class SharonClark Aug 2022 #25
On the Medicare Part D - Ms. Toad Aug 2022 #35
Your broker is incorrect - Medicare is not scary at all. Ms. Toad Aug 2022 #26
so you are paying about 276 a month and about all medical this year has been covered? LizBeth Aug 2022 #46
That's roughly what I"m paying. Ms. Toad Aug 2022 #52
I would never select Medicare Advantage. Too many snake clauses and hidden kairos12 Aug 2022 #27
Medicare Advantage is not a "Medicare Plan" moose65 Aug 2022 #30
Previous discussions... keithbvadu2 Aug 2022 #31
+1 Emile Aug 2022 #39
Medicare decides what is covered and the limit. Cap on what doctors and hospitals can charge. LiberalFighter Aug 2022 #33
What's the catch, then? moose65 Aug 2022 #36
It is part of my retirement benefit that was union negotiated. LiberalFighter Aug 2022 #50
As someone who works with it from the provider side Horse with no Name Aug 2022 #37
If the US gov't wanted to save Medicare, RicROC Aug 2022 #40
I no longer have any skin in the Medicare game - But, it would seem that there are two disadvantages GoneOffShore Aug 2022 #41
My mom is on Medicare and pays nothing if she's JoanofArgh Aug 2022 #42
HI, IT'S ME AGAIN...... Hotler Aug 2022 #43
call NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW Skittles Aug 2022 #60
Skittles you didn't finish. It could be what ????? Hotler Aug 2022 #62
(clapping my hands) Skittles Aug 2022 #63
Get a Medigap Plan to supplement Medicare. My advice is Do Not get an Advantage Plan which Nanjeanne Aug 2022 #58
K/R Medicare v Medicare Advantage appalachiablue Aug 2022 #68
Medicare Advantage is out for one thing only, making money! William769 Aug 2022 #69
One risk pool is a health care system. Multiple risk pools is an investment scheme. Ron Green Aug 2022 #71
Okay, I'm going to be toast!!! hamsterjill Aug 2022 #72
When any insurance agent comes to my house to explain his product, RicROC Aug 2022 #73
Yep. hamsterjill Aug 2022 #75
Medicare 'Advantage' is a private insurance plan paid for with Medicare funds. mackdaddy Aug 2022 #74
+1 Spot On! Emile Aug 2022 #76
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