Man punches nurse for removing wife's burqa during c-section

[Ms. Toad]

146. You might want to go back and reread and respond to what I actually wrote

rather than the straw man you have created.

Your knowledge of what I have and have not considered, and what interactions I have or have not had with native cultures is rather surprising since I have deliberately remained pretty much silent on it. You would probably be surprised at how far off base you are - but there is just no no point in even starting second conversation about different minority group on which you are imposing your religious construct (which is what you are doing when you attribute a religious motivation to native dress, when they have not asserted that motivation themselves).

And, we are back to where I started: This statement is a gross mischaracterization of what I have said: "Your embrace of patriarchal religious enforcement on religious garb (para 2) is noted."

What I have said is:

When a Muslim woman says that she chooses to wear a covering (of whatever sort), or otherwise comply with the dicates of her religion, that it is sexist and bigoted to insist that she is a bobble-head who is unable to make that decision for herself.

. . .

In a variety of situations, people make choices that I would not make. My disagreement with that choice does not give me the right to dismiss it, and more important, it does not give me the right to dismiss her as a person with the intelligence and free will to make a choice I might find abhorrent.

The key word in that quote is "chooses."

That is a very different question from "enforcement." We agree as to enforcement - I just don't happen to believe that every single Muslim woman who wears a covering of some sort is is forced to do so, particularly some of the bright independent women I know who have told me it is their choice.