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FloridaJudy

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161. When they started building buildings with more than four or five stories

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 02:23 AM

Nov 2012

My former MIL lived on the twentieth floor of an apartment building in Manhattan, and that was only half-way up. Some of her neighbors were frail and elderly. Care to ask those folks to hike up and down scores of stairs when the food and water runs out, even if they stocked a week's supply?

What about those whose lives depend on machines? Dialysis patients, or those using electrical oxygen compressors? Diabetics whose insulin needs to be refrigerated? Those folks are likely to die unless the power is restored in a few days. Here in Florida, we have "special needs" Red Cross shelters that we open up for those folks a few days in advance of every hurricane. I used to work them as a nurse before I retired. NYC doesn't have experience of dealing with frequent hurricanes to have such a system in place!

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When did a month become thought of as a long time for electric service to be [View all] RB TexLa Nov 2012 OP

civilization. Ptah Nov 2012 #1

Where does this grotesque sense of entitlement come from? Zalatix Nov 2012 #98

+1. And for which they paid for in taxes and utility bills for years. Next! freshwest Nov 2012 #136

+1 liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #198

Oh, piffle. PeaceNikki Nov 2012 #2

When people began receiving dialysis treatment? jberryhill Nov 2012 #3

Or needing medicine that required refrigeration? nt laundry_queen Nov 2012 #118

Another example, a baby I know that had a birth defect that required a ventilator? freshwest Nov 2012 #138

you forgot the sarcasm thingie n/t warrprayer Nov 2012 #4

That started around 1920... cthulu2016 Nov 2012 #5

You should probably add the Sarcasm icon. nt NutmegYankee Nov 2012 #6

And don't get me started on antibiotics... cthulu2016 Nov 2012 #7

Why are you still here MattBaggins Nov 2012 #8

Since linemen no longer have to get there on foot, walking uphill in both directions in 10' of snow. Gidney N Cloyd Nov 2012 #9

I can see you're not kidding. Too bad. cali Nov 2012 #10

I'm not and so far the replies all appear to be from people who would tell the electricians RB TexLa Nov 2012 #11

wtf? Not even close- and it has little to do with electricians. cali Nov 2012 #16

No, these are the people who hug, cheer on the electricians and bring them food and water. PeaceNikki Nov 2012 #18

I personally disagree with you. I was personally happy to see the life long demo Nov 2012 #28

VERY twisted inference. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #110

It may take a month to get the job done in whatever backwater you reside in... BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #158

Who said that? yardwork Nov 2012 #199

my nephew is a lineman and he would not agree with you, RB roguevalley Nov 2012 #204

i don't go without power with you. nt. dionysus Nov 2012 #12

Was that this guy? sufrommich Nov 2012 #22

+1 JoeyT Nov 2012 #123

Where does this grotesque sense of looking your nose down Tsiyu Nov 2012 #13

We don't have this expection of power being restored in days in Louisiana after such a storm RB TexLa Nov 2012 #21

So obviously, New Yorkers shouldn't expect it either, Occulus Nov 2012 #24

Perhaps you are a time traveller? Tsiyu Nov 2012 #26

Also, gas pumps run on electricity KamaAina Nov 2012 #201

Bully for you! WinkyDink Nov 2012 #112

When did compassion wither away on DU? suffragette Nov 2012 #14

I see you've met RB TexLa... dionysus Nov 2012 #17

Yes, noticed that about RB TexLa for some time now, especially in Social Security threads suffragette Nov 2012 #190

We live in a time and place where we can provide necessities to our people Generic Other Nov 2012 #15

This is something about the military I never knew until recent threads. Thanks for more info. freshwest Nov 2012 #139

A month is a long time without power in November, sufrommich Nov 2012 #19

On the east coast, no less. Zalatix Nov 2012 #54

It's a long time in late summer in Louisiana too. But I don't expect everyone to drop everything RB TexLa Nov 2012 #61

Louisiana is nothing like CT, NY, and NJ in terms of the cold. Jennicut Nov 2012 #70

Another completely made-up scenario. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #113

Really? Parts of Louisiana being without power after a hurricane RB TexLa Nov 2012 #116

The made-up part is you suffering through it Occulus Nov 2012 #152

Just nod and say "Cool story, bro." Zalatix Nov 2012 #163

Can you explain what you mean by dropping everything else? former-republican Nov 2012 #121

How can it be an 'entitlement' to get what they've paid to create for years.. the electrical grid? freshwest Nov 2012 #143

A month is pretty damn long but it can vary BootinUp Nov 2012 #20

--- Jack Handy myrna minx Nov 2012 #23

!!! Bucky Nov 2012 #177

I hope you are kidding. life long demo Nov 2012 #25

Alas, it is not. It is a reflection of the OP's world view. cali Nov 2012 #27

It is the cellphone age, people are lost without their cellphones. texanwitch Nov 2012 #29

Sickening post. this has jack shit to do with electronic toys cali Nov 2012 #30

No. texanwitch Nov 2012 #34

I don't think they have any idea and don't care. They are "By God, entitled" to as little RB TexLa Nov 2012 #35

Distruptions happen. texanwitch Nov 2012 #39

That premise is a Straw Man invented by you, as is your OP. Ikonoklast Nov 2012 #191

Did that 2 weeks seem like a long time for you? uppityperson Nov 2012 #48

It might have taken longer if Ike had hit Houston directly. texanwitch Nov 2012 #72

If 2 wks was long, 4 wks is longer. I've had it out for a week in WA, and lived without uppityperson Nov 2012 #94

LOL, a Texan lecturing people in the NE about long-term power outages in November. (nt) Posteritatis Nov 2012 #58

I can lecture about heat in September. texanwitch Nov 2012 #67

I had my Rita stories too. Bucky Nov 2012 #178

An elderly man in NJ was just found frozen to death. redwitch Nov 2012 #82

The 93 would have killed him to. texanwitch Nov 2012 #89

Apparently he was living alone. redwitch Nov 2012 #91

That is so sad. texanwitch Nov 2012 #104

Wait you had two generators and you are lecturing people to suck it up and go without power? Puregonzo1188 Nov 2012 #192

The Cat.... bvar22 Nov 2012 #196

Post removed Post removed Nov 2012 #99

I think you are sad. texanwitch Nov 2012 #115

WHOOSH eShirl Nov 2012 #117

He should have been moved to safe place. texanwitch Nov 2012 #134

. Occulus Nov 2012 #184

forget the fake sympathy. I want to hear about your TWO generators roguevalley Nov 2012 #205

Bad hide up above, eShirl! Jury done did you wrong on that one! nt boston bean Nov 2012 #169

Bad hide, indeed. ronnie624 Nov 2012 #189

The jury had apparently yet to hear of sarcasm. Puregonzo1188 Nov 2012 #193

Agree. bvar22 Nov 2012 #197

RB Tex LA has nothing to say to this. Zalatix Nov 2012 #149

when was a month NOT considered a long time to be without electric service? HereSince1628 Nov 2012 #31

When some countries became part of the first world DBoon Nov 2012 #32

dumbass KG Nov 2012 #33

Really? gollygee Nov 2012 #36

I'm not saying it's easy to go without. It's the expectation of having it returned so quick RB TexLa Nov 2012 #41

We were without electricity for 3 weeks from an ice storm Horse with no Name Nov 2012 #37

^^ This. A month is a long time, but not always an unreasonably long time. gkhouston Nov 2012 #55

Preparing us for the 'new normal,' are you? HiPointDem Nov 2012 #38

+1 nt TBF Nov 2012 #45

+1,000!!! Zalatix Nov 2012 #57

+1 leftstreet Nov 2012 #87

Since when did 4 minutes become though of as a long time without oxygen? aandegoons Nov 2012 #40

what in the fuck? argiel1234 Nov 2012 #42

Thanks for bringing us the right-wing meme of the day. TBF Nov 2012 #43

Saying people shouldn't think everything should be majically cleaned up for them in days RB TexLa Nov 2012 #47

I think you would love everything to take months - TBF Nov 2012 #50

No RB TexLa Nov 2012 #66

The wires are already there krispos42 Nov 2012 #166

It's not right wing meme day, it's RB TexLa hour, also known as Zalatix Nov 2012 #164

Who said it'd be a month? It's been a few days, so far. There were 5 to 8 Mill.w/o power. Now, Honeycombe8 Nov 2012 #44

The extra crews are making excellent progress. texanwitch Nov 2012 #46

I don't illuminate with you. Starry Messenger Nov 2012 #49

"Don't illuminate with you". - DuZY!!! Zalatix Nov 2012 #53

^^^^THIS^^^^ LOL!!! flvegan Nov 2012 #150

The agrarian anarchy underground is that way. ---> nt Comrade_McKenzie Nov 2012 #51

Yes, to the right. The far, far right. Almost there. freshwest Nov 2012 #145

Exactly. nt TBF Nov 2012 #173

Post removed Post removed Nov 2012 #52

Within a year or two of ubiquitous electrical service first becoming a thing? (nt) Posteritatis Nov 2012 #56

When people start dying because of this, remember you said that. Zalatix Nov 2012 #59

You do realize that we had people living across the country because we didn't have RB TexLa Nov 2012 #62

Then why don't you move there and be without electricity? Go on, scoot. Zalatix Nov 2012 #63

I was. New Orleans has electricty now. I'm just saying, sometimes it takes more than a few days RB TexLa Nov 2012 #65

Cool story, Bro! Zalatix Nov 2012 #68

I've donated to several groups. I happen to know you are not my brother, so please RB TexLa Nov 2012 #71

You mean you donated to help those grotesquely entitled people? Cool story, bro! Zalatix Nov 2012 #76

I have been talking about people who do not have realistic RB TexLa Nov 2012 #83

Here's some more realism for you to go along with your faux "compassion". Zalatix Nov 2012 #88

We are able to move people where they can have that RB TexLa Nov 2012 #96

Really? How did that work out in NOLA? Zalatix Nov 2012 #171

What other "entitlements" do you oppose? nt. OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #60

It's the sense of entitlement. The person who hears it will be five or four days till their RB TexLa Nov 2012 #69

Just curious, but what percentage of people in bad situations do you believe have this .... OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #108

I agree with you there. It is not an overnight fix former-republican Nov 2012 #125

This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Nov 2012 #155

You sound like billh58 Nov 2012 #159

"When"? Ever since electricity became a part of life, "entitlement" geesh! WTF nt Raine Nov 2012 #64

*facepalm* Since we gave up fire and horses? Buckets and icehouses? Polio? nolabear Nov 2012 #73

You do realize I'm talking about people having unreal expectations RB TexLa Nov 2012 #74

Tough guys don't talk tough tabasco Nov 2012 #75

Nothing tough. I'm just saying people should have realistic RB TexLa Nov 2012 #77

People will die without electricity. It keeps people alive. riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #78

In 1923. Dorian Gray Nov 2012 #79

How long has YOUR power been out? renie408 Nov 2012 #80

Not looking down my nose at anyone RB TexLa Nov 2012 #85

Hey why didn't you tell renie408 that cool story you told me? Zalatix Nov 2012 #92

I don't know you people's usernames RB TexLa Nov 2012 #97

"You people"? MadrasT Nov 2012 #105

Ok. You persons RB TexLa Nov 2012 #109

Do you realize how hurtful and rude your post was to people? argiel1234 Nov 2012 #81

Really sorry to hear that is happening now. The OP's a slap in the face to all like you. freshwest Nov 2012 #147

Don't go changing.. Fumesucker Nov 2012 #84

What brought this "home" to me was a photo on DU ... from a NY residence with a sign on the fence... libdem4life Nov 2012 #86

That person is a saint. Zalatix Nov 2012 #90

All my relatives at present are unfortunately "remote" and I'd be lost without those libdem4life Nov 2012 #95

This is just how it is. Period. From my spouse to all of you: Ship of Fools Nov 2012 #93

Holy Wow ... thank you ... it's like we think the food in our urban grocery stores just appeared libdem4life Nov 2012 #100

that's my man... Ship of Fools Nov 2012 #101

A million blessings to you and yours. Stay safe out there. nt riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #122

I don't know but if that is how long it takes, that is just how long it takes treestar Nov 2012 #102

Jay-sus! Like the country's not divided enough! graywarrior Nov 2012 #103

A dear friend of mine is working somewhere's up there. texanwitch Nov 2012 #132

Got this from Anson Mount's fb page (Hell on Wheels) graywarrior Nov 2012 #137

This isn't Bush's FEMA. texanwitch Nov 2012 #144

It's heartbreaking graywarrior Nov 2012 #146

I know. texanwitch Nov 2012 #148

This thread is perfect example of something, pscot Nov 2012 #106

Where does the sense of entitlement to be an unfeeling and heartless bastard come from? quinnox Nov 2012 #107

That sense clearly resides... NCTraveler Nov 2012 #142

Suck it up. eShirl Nov 2012 #111

Wow. Had to check to make sure I was reading DU. n/t NRaleighLiberal Nov 2012 #114

seriously, you are an embarrassment to this website. La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2012 #119

Because I don't think the clean up and restoration process will be RB TexLa Nov 2012 #120

no, because you think people wanting normal amenities back La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2012 #124

I have empathy for them. But people do have to have understand RB TexLa Nov 2012 #126

but claiming that this is a sense of entitlement is a shit attitude La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2012 #127

Post removed Post removed Nov 2012 #129

no matter how much you have suffered there is no reason not to understand La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2012 #133

Well I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that SomethingFishy Nov 2012 #128

Wow. It's like you're phoning it in anymore. Iggo Nov 2012 #130

Grotesque? You are such a flame-baiter. morningfog Nov 2012 #131

You stopped being funny a long motherfucking time ago. Codeine Nov 2012 #135

Aw, OP troll is locked out of his own flame bait. morningfog Nov 2012 #140

I was hoping for a better finale than this CreekDog Nov 2012 #141

A month without power in our age is pretty tough ChillZilla Nov 2012 #151

when you are in a shit position do you usually think of people who had it worse? La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2012 #153

Well, considering that many of us travelled to Louisiana in the aftermath of Katrina and Rita ChillZilla Nov 2012 #156

no one can keep that attitude because its unrealistic and frankly probably unhealthy La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2012 #180

The power companies are well paid for their service and should be competent at restoring it JVS Nov 2012 #154

I believe they are but there's only so much they can do ChillZilla Nov 2012 #157

One month is plenty of time for them to get their shit together JVS Nov 2012 #167

Why do people need electricity at all? NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #160

+1 La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2012 #181

When they started building buildings with more than four or five stories FloridaJudy Nov 2012 #161

Oh, since it's a critical component to heating our house and our water... krispos42 Nov 2012 #162

It's ugly when the mask slips. Thanks for showing everybody. Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #165

The mask you speak of has slipped too many times to count. boston bean Nov 2012 #168

This. nt TBF Nov 2012 #174

'Grotesque sense of entitlement'? LeftishBrit Nov 2012 #170

Can I recommend this thread as an example of Ichingcarpenter Nov 2012 #172

I think most people have felt that way for two full generations, perhaps three slackmaster Nov 2012 #175

Since the TVA, Flintstone. In Houston it took 2� wks after Hurricane Rita to get my power back. Bucky Nov 2012 #176

Every time I read a post from you.. 99Forever Nov 2012 #179

If this ain't straight up classic trolling, I don't know what is. Iggo Nov 2012 #182

it keeps eyeballs on the site datasuspect Nov 2012 #183

Interesting. Iggo Nov 2012 #185

lots of websites are businesses datasuspect Nov 2012 #187

I know it's a business. Iggo Nov 2012 #188

Wait a month before your next post wtmusic Nov 2012 #186

I love it when you post shit like this. Rex Nov 2012 #194

it's a gimmick datasuspect Nov 2012 #195

Word. Rex Nov 2012 #200

omg...that such a long time. Liberal_in_LA Nov 2012 #202

It then begs the question: what is the relevant and precise amount of time to expect restoration LanternWaste Nov 2012 #203