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Sympthsical

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25. This isn't a productive space for that

Mon Aug 22, 2022, 11:52 AM

Aug 2022

An older demographic just isn't receptive to what Millennials and Zoomers are facing economically.

It'll be some variation of boot straps (put into much nicer words) and stories of perfect children or friends' children if there isn't outright denial there's a problem at all.

I've already accepted things won't change for about another ten years when leadership is forced to shift from sheer demographic inertia. Power is just being grasped straight into the grave at this point.

Bernie Sanders understands what's going on. Look at the reception he gets in certain spaces whenever he so much as breathes. And there is a complete lack of acknowledgement that he is beloved by voters under 45 precisely because he is the only one speaking to our experiences and reality.

It'll be very nicely monogrammed boot straps for all.

The President only has a week before student loans become a serious problem again. Tick tock (or is it Tik Tok? Feels like it's about to be both).

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Young voters [View all] AntivaxHunters Aug 2022 OP

Not to mention $50,000+ cars calguy Aug 2022 #1

I bought a really nice car for half of that dsc Aug 2022 #2

You can get a pretty decent new car for $20k DemocracyWins202 Aug 2022 #4

I think they average new car prices and include $100k luxury Meadowoak Aug 2022 #8

I don't think we get our advice from cynical twitter posts DemocracyWins202 Aug 2022 #3

I prefer living in reality AntivaxHunters Aug 2022 #6

Twitter's a bit skewed regarding reality Hekate Aug 2022 #89

Well that's sure AF not what happens on Twitter. BannonsLiver Aug 2022 #98

It's TRUE vercetti2021 Aug 2022 #5

It is not inflation when corporations-some foreign buy up housing and create a shortage...then Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #17

Well inthewind21 Aug 2022 #41

I'm a Democrat vercetti2021 Aug 2022 #91

My SO and I were talking about renting earlier this week. Hugin Aug 2022 #136

I be wary of posts that says "there all bad" DemocracyWins202 Aug 2022 #7

The problem existed looooong before 2022 AntivaxHunters Aug 2022 #9

They got a raw deal. Massive student debt, low wages, Sky Jewels Aug 2022 #10

Do you understand that these kids borrowed this money and should have known it needed to Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #16

Maybe they went in thinking "I'll get a good job and pay it back, no problem" ck4829 Aug 2022 #20

I expect that was part of it. And many of them live in the moment...don't think about the Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #35

I do understand. For most, their choice was: Sky Jewels Aug 2022 #28

Listen, I know as I have kids this age and they have friends...that a fair number of these kids Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #34

I have kids that age too (early-mid-20s). Sky Jewels Aug 2022 #46

Newsflash inthewind21 Aug 2022 #42

Please, do explain how people over 50 got a raw deal Bettie Aug 2022 #94

Enjoy this 47 minute video explaining all the reasons that's totally wrong: meadowlander Aug 2022 #110

Boomers & up as an overall group made out like bandits economically compared to Millennials & Gen Z Celerity Aug 2022 #116

Young voters are the key to Dems keeping the house Fiendish Thingy Aug 2022 #11

+1 Meadowoak Aug 2022 #12

Yeah that is where you are wrong...the three seats most likely to swing the Senate are Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #15

The sheer numbers of young voters make them the most powerful voting bloc in the US Fiendish Thingy Aug 2022 #23

"Rather than wasting campaign funds trying to flip a small number" Sympthsical Aug 2022 #27

I agree. Sky Jewels Aug 2022 #29

Not unless they vote. And at the moment that isn't happening. Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #36

Bingo! inthewind21 Aug 2022 #44

How do you account for the increase in turnout between 2016 and 2020? Fiendish Thingy Aug 2022 #50

Maybe because DU skews older in general Bettie Aug 2022 #71

We voted in record numbers in 2020 and made up for Boomers and older going for Trump. Celerity Aug 2022 #58

Yeah, you did Bettie Aug 2022 #73

Vote and their issues might matter treestar Aug 2022 #80

Vote and they still do not get effectively addressed, or talked about with Celerity Aug 2022 #109

What do you mean by "they still not get effectively addressed or talked about"? betsuni Aug 2022 #111

all you have to do it vote rather than claim other voters treestar Aug 2022 #127

Such irony. Insults galore. Nixie Aug 2022 #130

+1 betsuni Aug 2022 #135

people who don't vote are not powerful treestar Aug 2022 #70

Their numbers grew between 2016 and 2020 Bettie Aug 2022 #74

if they choose to not vote treestar Aug 2022 #75

What percentage is worthy of having their concerns addressed? Bettie Aug 2022 #76

I don't know where you are getting those ideas treestar Aug 2022 #78

+1 betsuni Aug 2022 #77

So 50% is not enough for them to matter Bettie Aug 2022 #79

I don't understand what you are talking about treestar Aug 2022 #82

Which demographic has 100% turnout? Bettie Aug 2022 #84

A-Frickin-Men Willto Aug 2022 #112

+10000000000 betsuni Aug 2022 #113

Well said! treestar Aug 2022 #128

+! honest.abe Aug 2022 #137

I prefer to view it as untapped power, rather than powerlessness Fiendish Thingy Aug 2022 #87

Gee inthewind21 Aug 2022 #43

Women defending their right to choose will be key Kaleva Aug 2022 #126

If they think a third party is coming to save them, they've got a lot of growing up to do. W_HAMILTON Aug 2022 #13

Or is it AntivaxHunters Aug 2022 #18

I listened -- did you? W_HAMILTON Aug 2022 #19

Well considering AntivaxHunters Aug 2022 #30

You solve it by voting. W_HAMILTON Aug 2022 #33

Why are you constantly punching down AntivaxHunters Aug 2022 #39

It's not punching down, it's pointing out how their thinking and (in)action... W_HAMILTON Aug 2022 #45

+100000000 betsuni Aug 2022 #47

But you are though AntivaxHunters Aug 2022 #54

I learned about FDR's 2nd Bill of Rights via Thom H back on (RIP🧡) Air America electric_blue68 Aug 2022 #92

Did you know that back in the late '70s & early '80s a certain amount of younger Germans... electric_blue68 Aug 2022 #93

I am sorry but I have never seen these voters turn out. They didn't turn out in 2016 during the Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #21

It is foolish to expect any third party to do anything but spoil elections as they did in 16. Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #37

All they have to do is register and vote treestar Aug 2022 #83

"Young voters are the largest voting bloc" Hey: nobody who fails to vote is a "voting bloc" Hekate Aug 2022 #102

and those who want a third party have to start one treestar Aug 2022 #85

I find it total bullshit and until they accept that there will never be more than two viable parties Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #14

And I'm sure they find it bull that one of those parties is a psycho cult ck4829 Aug 2022 #22

Are you suggesting that we need a competing party to the Democratic Party? Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #38

Gen X too Johnny2X2X Aug 2022 #24

What you describe with your Dad being a die maker...is the toll globalism has taken on the Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #40

Disagree (kind of) Johnny2X2X Aug 2022 #52

This isn't a productive space for that Sympthsical Aug 2022 #25

+1 H2O Man Aug 2022 #31

Bernie simply became the most prominent person to vocalize our thoughts Sympthsical Aug 2022 #59

Exactly! H2O Man Aug 2022 #62

Oh the irony inthewind21 Aug 2022 #49

I owe myself $5 Sympthsical Aug 2022 #56

Just as surely H2O Man Aug 2022 #60

I also gave myself a lot of money! Bernie Sanders lost twice among Nixie Aug 2022 #121

+1 betsuni Aug 2022 #122

Populism. betsuni Aug 2022 #61

+1. N/T obnoxiousdrunk Aug 2022 #66

Unfortunately + a bunch nt Brenda Aug 2022 #114

I keep waiting for the young people to show up Raftergirl Aug 2022 #26

Are you sure about that? AntivaxHunters Aug 2022 #32

It's more about just showing up every four year to vote. Raftergirl Aug 2022 #48

Wellp maybe this will give you some confidence :) AntivaxHunters Aug 2022 #51

youth slaters will not be disabused from continuing it, not from what I've seen in my 4+ years here Celerity Aug 2022 #63

Yeah, I've been worn down. Sympthsical Aug 2022 #65

I think it's a lot of Bettie Aug 2022 #81

I keep waiting for the old people to stop voting Republican... Act_of_Reparation Aug 2022 #53

Boom! AntivaxHunters Aug 2022 #55

As a certified old person, I (like most older DUers) have voted straight (D) since age 21 Hekate Aug 2022 #88

Precisely my point. Act_of_Reparation Aug 2022 #101

But why do they need persuading? betsuni Aug 2022 #105

Your second question strongly suggests the first was not asked in good faith. Act_of_Reparation Aug 2022 #129

Why does anyone need to be persuaded to vote for Democrats? betsuni Aug 2022 #132

An irrelevant question. Act_of_Reparation Aug 2022 #133

What? betsuni Aug 2022 #134

That's a fairly broad question. Act_of_Reparation Aug 2022 #138

Can anything be done to bring back (inflation adjusted) housing like it was in 1976? Polybius Aug 2022 #57

I think these 2 posts are completely disconnected muriel_volestrangler Aug 2022 #64

2020 Election. Barely over 51% for voters aged 18-24. Lowest among all age groups. Raftergirl Aug 2022 #67

Yep inthewind21 Aug 2022 #68

Young Adult Turnout Nearly Doubled in the 2018 Midterm Elections (plus record numbers in 2020) Celerity Aug 2022 #131

People bashing me would not get me to not vote treestar Aug 2022 #69

"Two party system" is the new anti-establishment buzzword, the new "status quo." betsuni Aug 2022 #72

"Everyone is bashing them & lecturing them" -- I need examples & proof of that Hekate Aug 2022 #86

Biden admin. most diverse, plenty of younger people, progressive. betsuni Aug 2022 #95

The OP... Hekate Aug 2022 #103

"30 doctor's" betsuni Aug 2022 #107

Srsly Hekate Aug 2022 #108

+1 betsuni Aug 2022 #115

I fail to see what's so funny AntivaxHunters Aug 2022 #118

"30 doctor's" "talk trash" "How old are you?" betsuni Aug 2022 #120

Yes all those Covid posts sure stir things up AntivaxHunters Aug 2022 #119

This message was self-deleted by its author betsuni Aug 2022 #96

Counting on just our old folks to outvote their old folks + Hitler Youth is no way to win elections. Efilroft Sul Aug 2022 #90

Young voters older voters we can talk to both... electric_blue68 Aug 2022 #97

Seems like a solution in search of a problem. BannonsLiver Aug 2022 #99

Young voters older voters we can talk to both... electric_blue68 Aug 2022 #100

It makes me sad wsulik Aug 2022 #104

Young people are not supporting Third Parties either JI7 Aug 2022 #106

Young voters have a tendency to sleep during midterm elections. That Emile Aug 2022 #117

I think young voters are deeply susceptible to propaganda... kentuck Aug 2022 #123

Amen. The deceptive Pied Pipers among us are all too willing to Nixie Aug 2022 #124

Doesn't matter. They're all facing bleak futures because of climate change Kaleva Aug 2022 #125