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In reply to the discussion: If you are in California, please vote YES on 37. -Updated [View all]proverbialwisdom
(4,959 posts)81. This, too (and upon reflection not my call to say which is worse re:post #75).
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http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/09/14/850321/romney-monsanto/?mobile=nc
Romney And Bain Boosted Agriculture Giant Monsanto In Spite Of Toxic Past
By Aviva Shen on Sep 14, 2012 at 11:37 am
Biotechnology firm Monsanto Company, which currently owns most of the patents for Americas staple crops, is already cozy with American lawmakers. A new Nation report, however, indicates that a very old friend in a very high place may usher in the corporations most prosperous years yet.
The Nations investigative report ( http://www.thenation.com/article/169885/mitt-romney-monsanto-man# ) has uncovered how Mitt Romney personally helped Monsanto shed its string of toxic chemical-related scandals and reinvent itself to dominate American agriculture. Monsanto, an early Bain & Company client, was so impressed with Romney that they started bypassing his superiors to deal with him directly. Romneys close relationship with then CEO John Hanley prompted his boss to create Bain Capital to keep Romney from leaving and taking their largest consulting client with him.
From 1977 to 1985, Romney helped navigate Monsanto through very rocky waters. The agribusiness was flooded with lawsuits after Congress banned the toxic coolant PCBs, a Monsanto product that has been linked to cancer and neurological disorders. At the same time, Monsantos Agent Orange toxin, used to defoliate jungles in the Vietnam War, was linked to the contamination of millions of Vietnamese and American soldiers and had been dubbed the largest chemical warfare operation in human history.
Tom Philpott at Mother Jones dug up a 2002 article ( http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philpott/2012/09/romney-monsanto-bain ) describing Monsantos attempts to hide its toxic waste disposal even after managers discovered fish spurting blood and shedding skin within 10 seconds of the PCB dump:
Faced with costly litigation, Monsanto relied on Romney to create their new public image one that did not involve poisoning soldiers or dumping chemicals in rivers:
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Romney And Bain Boosted Agriculture Giant Monsanto In Spite Of Toxic Past
By Aviva Shen on Sep 14, 2012 at 11:37 am
Biotechnology firm Monsanto Company, which currently owns most of the patents for Americas staple crops, is already cozy with American lawmakers. A new Nation report, however, indicates that a very old friend in a very high place may usher in the corporations most prosperous years yet.
The Nations investigative report ( http://www.thenation.com/article/169885/mitt-romney-monsanto-man# ) has uncovered how Mitt Romney personally helped Monsanto shed its string of toxic chemical-related scandals and reinvent itself to dominate American agriculture. Monsanto, an early Bain & Company client, was so impressed with Romney that they started bypassing his superiors to deal with him directly. Romneys close relationship with then CEO John Hanley prompted his boss to create Bain Capital to keep Romney from leaving and taking their largest consulting client with him.
From 1977 to 1985, Romney helped navigate Monsanto through very rocky waters. The agribusiness was flooded with lawsuits after Congress banned the toxic coolant PCBs, a Monsanto product that has been linked to cancer and neurological disorders. At the same time, Monsantos Agent Orange toxin, used to defoliate jungles in the Vietnam War, was linked to the contamination of millions of Vietnamese and American soldiers and had been dubbed the largest chemical warfare operation in human history.
Tom Philpott at Mother Jones dug up a 2002 article ( http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philpott/2012/09/romney-monsanto-bain ) describing Monsantos attempts to hide its toxic waste disposal even after managers discovered fish spurting blood and shedding skin within 10 seconds of the PCB dump:
Monsanto Co. routinely discharged toxic waste into a west Anniston [Alabama] creek and dumped millions of pounds of PCBs into oozing open-pit landfills. And thousands of pages of Monsanto documentsmany emblazoned with warnings such as CONFIDENTIAL: Read and Destroyshow that for decades, the corporate giant concealed what it did and what it knew.
Faced with costly litigation, Monsanto relied on Romney to create their new public image one that did not involve poisoning soldiers or dumping chemicals in rivers:
Dr. Earl Beaver, who was Monsantos waste director during the Bain period, says that Bain was certainly aware of the PCB and dioxin scandals because they created a negative public perception that was costing the company money. So Bain recommended focusing on the businesses that didnt have those perceptions, Beaver recalls, starting with life science products that were biologically based, including genetically engineered crops, as well as Roundup, the hugely profitable weed-killer. These were the products that Bain gave their go-ahead to, Beaver contends, noting that Romney was a key player, reviewing the data collected by other people and developing alternatives, talking mostly to the higher muckety-mucks.
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http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2012/09/are_gmo_foods_safe_opponents_are_skewing_the_science_to_scare_people_.single.html
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Deconstructing Dinner
...As a journalist, Kloor failed to report on the almost 20 years of similar attacks which have also been well coordinated when any research questioning the safety of GMOs is published.
Kloor further insists that "anti-GMO campaigners have distorted the science on genetically modified foods" yet fails to question whether GMO advocates and industry have done the same?
Where all credit that might go to Kloor gets blown out the window is following his classic error made by GMO advocates when he quotes UC Davis geneticist Pamela Ronald who states, "no adverse health or environmental effects have resulted from commercialization of genetically engineered crops."
As a long-time journalist covering this issue, I can confirm without a modicum of doubt, that had Keith Kloor asked Ronald... "Can you point me to the studies which have been tracking the long-term health effects of GMOs since they were first introduced?" There's only one answer she could have given... "no". Why? Because there have been no such studies.
Jon Steinman
Deconstructing Dinner
COMMENTS
Deconstructing Dinner
...As a journalist, Kloor failed to report on the almost 20 years of similar attacks which have also been well coordinated when any research questioning the safety of GMOs is published.
Kloor further insists that "anti-GMO campaigners have distorted the science on genetically modified foods" yet fails to question whether GMO advocates and industry have done the same?
Where all credit that might go to Kloor gets blown out the window is following his classic error made by GMO advocates when he quotes UC Davis geneticist Pamela Ronald who states, "no adverse health or environmental effects have resulted from commercialization of genetically engineered crops."
As a long-time journalist covering this issue, I can confirm without a modicum of doubt, that had Keith Kloor asked Ronald... "Can you point me to the studies which have been tracking the long-term health effects of GMOs since they were first introduced?" There's only one answer she could have given... "no". Why? Because there have been no such studies.
Jon Steinman
Deconstructing Dinner
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Best and saddest expert analysis I have encountered on GMOs ever - discovered yesterday.
proverbialwisdom
Nov 2012
#158
I have a scientist acquaintance whom I respect a great deal who advocates voting no for these
Brickbat
Nov 2012
#11
I strongly suspect a lot of people would turn down a product with a label that said:
jeff47
Nov 2012
#14
The public doesn't care about Hydrogen in food, they care about Genetic manipulation of their food
blazeKing
Nov 2012
#22
So your cited article shows that the toxin is lasting in the soil for 180 days vs 24 hrs
Tumbulu
Nov 2012
#129
I saved you the time of reading to the end of the thread so you can read this full article.
proverbialwisdom
Nov 2012
#130
Related material here:“No studies to date have experimentally examined the causal relationship btwn"
proverbialwisdom
Nov 2012
#132
Well the British people and people from Europe that I knew asked me how Americans could be misled
Tumbulu
Nov 2012
#106
if by nature, you mean Man...then yes...man has engineered corn for thousands of years...
yawnmaster
Nov 2012
#42
Because the very process of genetic modification itself creates unintended ancillary consequences.
proverbialwisdom
Nov 2012
#155
As an aside, for health reasons the future of food is not the biotech pseudo-food variant.
proverbialwisdom
Nov 2012
#93
Harvard, man, both of 'em. Do not mock their training, expertise, research, or integrity.
proverbialwisdom
Nov 2012
#107
This, too (and upon reflection not my call to say which is worse re:post #75).
proverbialwisdom
Nov 2012
#81
Exactly. The only reason for lying is because they have something to hide. nt
Live and Learn
Nov 2012
#29
I'm not decided. I'm in favor of labeling, but I'm not convinced this prop is well written.
LeftyMom
Nov 2012
#39
Monsanto have been a pestilence world-wide, suing farmers out of existence,
Fire Walk With Me
Nov 2012
#54
why not just put the chemical compounds found in the food? well...because labeling can become...
yawnmaster
Nov 2012
#43
The animals in the OP picture were fed IIRC, check the articles, 100% GMOs.
Fire Walk With Me
Nov 2012
#70
If you want to be up-to-date, you'll peruse the thread below and find your links debunked.
proverbialwisdom
Nov 2012
#154
Scientists from AAAS - Yes: Food Labels Would Let Consumers Make Informed Choices
proverbialwisdom
Nov 2012
#113
Check out this definitive article written twelve years ago. The argument for labeling is compelling.
proverbialwisdom
Nov 2012
#117
doing what a majority of Californians want gives liberals a bad name?
DisgustipatedinCA
Nov 2012
#134
They've spent over $7 million dollars to block this measure in just one state, they've purchased an
Fire Walk With Me
Nov 2012
#135
Statement on Election Results from the California Right to Know Campaign
proverbialwisdom
Nov 2012
#166
Samples of three fraudulent mailers sent to California voters provided at link below (will not C+P).
proverbialwisdom
Nov 2012
#169