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59. The good old days may not return...

Mon Aug 29, 2022, 12:40 PM

Aug 2022

...

...'m learning to fly but I ain't got wings
Coming down is the hardest thing

Well, the good old days may not return
And the rocks might melt and the sea may burn

Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers

Post-trump, the US may never (will likely never) be the same due to all the broken norms in the daily and political spheres of life as we knew them.

We're experiencing the Paradox of Tolerance in real time.

One side strives to engage in honest debate, the other side desires to burn down the forum.

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I'm Bracing Myself [View all] NanceGreggs Aug 2022 OP

I am right there with you Nancy. FalloutShelter Aug 2022 #1

Judgment Day is coming for Trumpy boy! Emile Aug 2022 #2

+1000. tRump's own secret meetings with Putin are never far Hortensis Aug 2022 #3

What ever happened about the translators present at those meetings? thucythucy Aug 2022 #24

Good question, though tRump apparently sometimes avoided bringing Hortensis Aug 2022 #30

👍 Joinfortmill Aug 2022 #36

ah, yes....the interpreters... ewagner Aug 2022 #34

We can't know if they've been interviewed, with or without subpoena. Hortensis Aug 2022 #40

Interesting times indeed. IrishAfricanAmerican Aug 2022 #4

I've been... 2naSalit Aug 2022 #5

Boy howdy, me too. MontanaMama Aug 2022 #28

Election night went to bed around 7-8, and weirdly right to sleep. Hortensis Aug 2022 #38

The night started in California with a pre-polls closing BadgerMom Aug 2022 #62

Well, at least you had a nice election evening, BadgerMom, Hortensis Aug 2022 #73

👍🏻 BadgerMom Aug 2022 #74

I'll never get over it. 2naSalit Aug 2022 #43

Ah yes. Remember "Our institutions will protect us"? halfulglas Aug 2022 #58

Like that quote, MontanaMama. calimary Aug 2022 #79

And we will be shattered to learn how bad it was and for how long and with nothing done about it BSdetect Aug 2022 #6

Traitors WmChris Aug 2022 #9

Ah yes. The July 4 meeting in Russia. What were their names again? Welcome! Evolve Dammit Aug 2022 #21

Here you go. Thune's So Dak. Home of Butina, money laundering suegeo Aug 2022 #39

Also Ron Johnson, WI Wild blueberry Aug 2022 #51

Not just "deplorable", but bought and paid for Putin pawns to bering down USA. MAYBE i'm wrong? Evolve Dammit Aug 2022 #71

Thanks for the list of the "useful idiots." n/t Evolve Dammit Aug 2022 #72

My biggest fear is that "...with nothing done about it" part. calimary Aug 2022 #45

I worry about what amount of danger we face now, as a country babsbunny Aug 2022 #7

My shocks have been sorely tested since 2016, but they're still holding up. Efilroft Sul Aug 2022 #8

"It will blow the roof off the house." rubbersole Aug 2022 #10

TFG took these records for some purpose LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2022 #11

Good point to remember. kentuck Aug 2022 #13

Concur! Saboburns Aug 2022 #12

👍 Joinfortmill Aug 2022 #37

Fort Mill South Carolina?? Saboburns Aug 2022 #57

Right there with you... MiHale Aug 2022 #80

A dialogue needs to start talking about Trump's exposure to the death penalty if found to have sold Pepsidog Aug 2022 #14

We're not going back to "normal" Cyrano Aug 2022 #15

Based on my historical studies and Elessar Zappa Aug 2022 #54

I don't find them interesting so much as frightening and depressing. llmart Aug 2022 #16

Ditto! nt LittleGirl Aug 2022 #29

Yep. Me too. calimary Aug 2022 #47

K&R spanone Aug 2022 #17

Welcome to Westeros! Thunderbeast Aug 2022 #18

I hope we learn about it all. I fear we won't because some things will be too sensitive... liberalla Aug 2022 #19

And the fact that it's top secret gives wnylib Aug 2022 #83

Spot on, as always. niyad Aug 2022 #20

As I've been saying, whatever you think is the worst case scenario, it's going to be worse ashredux Aug 2022 #22

Yes, and we may never know just how bad because of the sensitive nature. MerryBlooms Aug 2022 #31

How much stuff can you sell in 6 years... Hermit-The-Prog Aug 2022 #23

No wonder they wanted to claim Biden didnt win. riverbendviewgal Aug 2022 #25

I don't want the indictment served until the beginning of October. The Jungle 1 Aug 2022 #26

Trump went to a lot of trouble to keep authorities Jarqui Aug 2022 #27

It must all be exposed for the healing to begin. Joinfortmill Aug 2022 #32

Expect the worst. WestMichRad Aug 2022 #33

I don't think we'll ever know full damage Marthe48 Aug 2022 #35

Of course it'll be bad. Trump wants to burn this country down and install his family dictators. Buckeyeblue Aug 2022 #41

I sincerely hope that this whole kacekwl Aug 2022 #42

The sad plight of a MAGA Loge23 Aug 2022 #44

Denial runs deep. calimary Aug 2022 #48

There's no such thing as denial cynical_idealist Aug 2022 #55

Cognitive dissonance is covered by Obamacare. (NT) The Wizard Aug 2022 #67

It's probably SO bad in fact, that we'll never know the half of it peppertree Aug 2022 #46

I hope Snackshack Aug 2022 #49

Yep. Although we will never know just how bad it was relayerbob Aug 2022 #50

Good thing is nowforever Aug 2022 #52

Recommended. H2O Man Aug 2022 #53

There is no limit it wendyb-NC Aug 2022 #56

The good old days may not return... NeoGreen Aug 2022 #59

Word orangecrush Aug 2022 #60

I feel JustAnotherGen Aug 2022 #61

Can't agree. Unfortunately AKwannabe Aug 2022 #63

+1 n/t area51 Aug 2022 #75

Well said, Nance. K&R for the post and the discussion. crickets Aug 2022 #64

Awaiting chart of how much each crooked congress person took! Brainfodder Aug 2022 #65

Remember when he had a secret meeting The Wizard Aug 2022 #66

Will it be enough to... lame54 Aug 2022 #68

K. & R. Yes, The ride is bumpy, but this driver knows all the bumps & will have plenty ... Stuart G Aug 2022 #69

Tremendous opportunities to make things better empedocles Aug 2022 #81

Can we trust that "the home of the brave" can measure up to a Ukrainian level of courage? n/t ariadne0614 Aug 2022 #82

That will all quietly disappear quakerboy Aug 2022 #70

preach it Sister Nance! Skittles Aug 2022 #76

Oooh! Oooh! Mista Kotta! Mista Kotta! I know this one! NullTuples Aug 2022 #77

I'm trying so hard not to get my hopes up! G2theD Aug 2022 #78