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54. Sounds like

Thu Sep 8, 2022, 11:26 AM

Sep 2022

we have the same problem. I'm in Florida.

The Republicans in my state are insane. The thing that really bugs me about is that there seems to be no check on their bullshit. Obviously there's federal law. Also, the voters passed an amendment to the state constitution. Federal law hasn't stopped them from doing insane shit; the state constitution seems to be an afterthought to these people; the state appellate courts and state supreme court seems to be of no use.

The Florida Legislature seems to not need SCOTUS. They do whatever they want anyway.

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Moore v Harper Could End Our Democracy [View all] gab13by13 Sep 2022 OP

Christofascists are in charge and asserting themselves to utterly destroy democracy. lark Sep 2022 #1

No, not "Christo" anything. Just fascists. There's zero Christ in their beliefs. None. themaguffin Sep 2022 #25

They proclaim "Christ, christ" but they do nothing to advance the teachings of Jesus. lark Sep 2022 #38

Another interesting thread on this was posted yesterday. Native Sep 2022 #2

Yes, thank you for posting this. gab13by13 Sep 2022 #5

If they pass this the great American experiment is over Heather MC Sep 2022 #3

If SCOTUS rules that there's no absolute right to vote, it would allow states to nullify votes from ancianita Sep 2022 #4

The legal term is it would give state legislators plenary power, gab13by13 Sep 2022 #6

Right. Which I detailed. And if Kavanaugh and Robert don't vote this down, next session, (Oct 1 2022 ancianita Sep 2022 #16

But the US Constitution still says: Farmer-Rick Sep 2022 #29

Then Congress better USE its "power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation." ancianita Sep 2022 #31

I'm not saying you're wrong Farmer-Rick Sep 2022 #49

Oh, I know. We just need for our congress to act. I don't think it will. ancianita Sep 2022 #53

Politicians need to use the power orthoclad Sep 2022 #55

"Need." The key word. It's arguable that they need to use it. ancianita Sep 2022 #58

You're right. orthoclad Sep 2022 #61

As scary as the Roe decision was, this one is even worse. Ferrets are Cool Sep 2022 #7

Pretty soon, voting by the people won't even have to happen. Samrob Sep 2022 #8

Since the majority of Americans will NEVER accept this FelineOverlord Sep 2022 #9

I wish I shared your optimism. Shipwack Sep 2022 #52

Except that they don't have to use the "independent state legislature doctrine" FBaggins Sep 2022 #10

The SC would have to vote no to the case, gab13by13 Sep 2022 #18

Why? FBaggins Sep 2022 #21

You just made it more confusing. gab13by13 Sep 2022 #26

Frightening Stuckinthebush Sep 2022 #11

And get rid of the electoral college altogether. 1 person, 1 vote that should count judesedit Sep 2022 #12

Agree absolutely!!! nt pazzyanne Sep 2022 #15

That will not happen if SCOTUS rules yes on Moore v Harper. See post #16 ancianita Sep 2022 #62

Help me think through this Stuckinthebush Sep 2022 #67

Okay, then. ancianita Sep 2022 #69

... pazzyanne Sep 2022 #13

It will only be bad if the state legislators abuse the system. JohnnyRingo Sep 2022 #14

And that's counting on a LOT Mad_Machine76 Sep 2022 #40

I don't know if they've been working toward this always, barbtries Sep 2022 #17

I hear ya, I have thought the same as you, I'm 75, staying put. gab13by13 Sep 2022 #22

we can't move anyway GenXer47 Sep 2022 #30

Panama, maybe. Spain? I don't know, someone. barbtries Sep 2022 #33

I hear you Barb. Never imagined we could become just another corrupted country. Laws are for suckers Evolve Dammit Sep 2022 #59

i feel like Portugal would be heavenly. barbtries Sep 2022 #65

I'm ready, but family first and it's not easy to uproot. Time will tell! Evolve Dammit Sep 2022 #71

Amen Joinfortmill Sep 2022 #34

I guess the United States means nothing kacekwl Sep 2022 #19

State legislators will abuse the system. rubbersole Sep 2022 #20

If they keep pushing they will dissolve the union. bullimiami Sep 2022 #23

agreed. barbtries Sep 2022 #35

Republicans can read polls, too DFW Sep 2022 #24

Now that is exactly it, well said. gab13by13 Sep 2022 #27

Why did the Right politicize the vax? orthoclad Sep 2022 #42

I suspect it was purely a gut reaction DFW Sep 2022 #68

This case scares the absolute fuck out of me In It to Win It Sep 2022 #28

Tell me about it, gab13by13 Sep 2022 #41

Sounds like In It to Win It Sep 2022 #54

Same. New Breed Leader Sep 2022 #57

Pray. Vote. Joinfortmill Sep 2022 #32

They want a dictatorship or king. Farmer-Rick Sep 2022 #36

Jimmy Carter said the US is an oligarchy orthoclad Sep 2022 #44

Keep banging this gong! orthoclad Sep 2022 #37

What the US Constitution Say Regarding Elections and State Legislatures lostinhere Sep 2022 #39

Yes, good catch, gab13by13 Sep 2022 #46

The states are still restricted in Farmer-Rick Sep 2022 #60

Hmmm lostinhere Sep 2022 #66

Congress has a say in Congressional elections Zeitghost Sep 2022 #70

Lincoln is turning over in his grave. lindysalsagal Sep 2022 #43

The Covfeferacy won the peace orthoclad Sep 2022 #48

The fact that SCOTUS even agreed to hear the case MontanaMama Sep 2022 #45

No thanks, not subscribing to 1 thing wrecking havoc. Brainfodder Sep 2022 #47

The Fascist Society should be put on the list of terrorist organizations. eom Justice matters. Sep 2022 #50

Here's a SCOTUS case docket page that lists the case's process. ancianita Sep 2022 #51

Then it's time to add four more LIBERAL Justices. n/t TeamProg Sep 2022 #56

thanks for this post. good info Evolve Dammit Sep 2022 #63

The majority of Americans have no idea this is even occurring. Ligyron Sep 2022 #64