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walkingman

(10,247 posts)
72. We are both Democrats and convinced we must win.
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 03:31 PM
Sep 2022

I am speaking for myself and only myself - it is my opinion.

I am almost 72 and have also been progressive all of my life and have never wobbled at all.

"And who WERE all these liberal progressive Democrats who really did make America great in the last century"

Who were they? They were people like you and I and in reality many people that no longer belong to the Democratic Party.

Our society changed dramatically in the 70's and does not even resemble the party prior to then. The same thing applies to the GOP. There are no longer Rockefeller or Eisenhower Republicans. From 1972 to 1988 the Democrats lost four of five presidential elections. Carter in '76 being the only Democrat elected during that period and the last Dem to win the South. Then we got the Reagan era which began the demise of our Representative Democracy. Then Clinton was elected in '92 (a moderate at best) and with his approval of NAFTA we lost many of the "Progressives" and many supporters in organized labor. In '94 we lost both houses....Contract with America and the rise of the right-wing religious/political movement....then the impeachment of Clinton led to the family values crap till just a few years ago.

The 2000 judicial loss by Gore is maybe our greatest tragedy of the modern era - it result was the election of maybe the worst POTUS in modern political history resulting in the destabilization of the Middle East, a banking crisis that almost brought us into another depression. The result being our first African American President, Barack Obama. A great president (Carter and Obama my favorites) who would more than likely would have never been elected without the terrible "W" Presidency. And then we got Trump - how and why I will never understand. I was not a Hillary fan, mainly because I thought her foreign policy was terrible as has been the US policy since at least WWII. But I have always voted for the Democratic candidate since 1968 in every election. I understand it is a binary choice.

I like AOC. She has charisma, is outspoken, and I think represents her constituency well. I don't think she represents all Democrats nor does she claim to but she does have some good ideas and has the conviction and courage to speak out for them.

There is no doubt in my mind that we have only one legitimate political party these days and it is not hard to see that. For us to win it requires UNITY which means that we allow our members to voice their opinions and ideas and then unite for the common good. I worry about so many people just don't vote if they don't get their way - that's dumb. I personally ready for our first woman POTUS and she needs to be a Democrat.

Peace and Love ☮

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Please remember AOC: there's a lot of people who love you. nt in2herbs Sep 2022 #1
Yup, so true. I admire her courage and love her politics. Magoo48 Sep 2022 #2
Absolutely! AOC you are awesome. nt Samrob Sep 2022 #77
She should name names AntivaxHunters Sep 2022 #3
Name the names. We need to know. We can't have these people in Congress. onecaliberal Sep 2022 #42
Imagine having a team member whining to the press. Phoenix61 Sep 2022 #4
I think that she is sometimes unfairly villified Mad_Machine76 Sep 2022 #5
AOC Doth Protest Too Much in My Opinion Indykatie Sep 2022 #6
Yes. And Ayanna Pressley in addition to Lauren Underwood. yorkster Sep 2022 #25
Agree. Several in OC's class and succeeding ones already have Hortensis Sep 2022 #65
AOC will not rest until AOC is on every magazine cover dalton99a Sep 2022 #7
That's pretty much it. Wingus Dingus Sep 2022 #61
I have to admit my respect for her went down Retrograde Sep 2022 #69
Piffle mcar Sep 2022 #8
I personally think the Democratic Party owes AOC and the other Progressives walkingman Sep 2022 #9
"Stuck in the 1990s....." brooklynite Sep 2022 #12
That was then....this is now. The country has moved on (thankfully) and the policies walkingman Sep 2022 #14
So inthewind21 Sep 2022 #21
Of course I want Dem majorities and I think that is where we are headed. The majority walkingman Sep 2022 #31
We moved...not sure about the country...we now have the most regressive policies I have ever seen. Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #47
Good thing we are changing that trend thanks to the progressives. nt Gore1FL Sep 2022 #16
AOC gets bashed for having progressive ideas yet Fetterman is applauded for his in2herbs Sep 2022 #43
What exactly have they done? I am a progressive but I am also a realist. The country has moved Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #50
Supported Democratic ideals rather than hide quivering in a corner, for one. nt Gore1FL Sep 2022 #70
For the win! Just A Box Of Rain Sep 2022 #23
Yeah her "Defund the Police" campaign was a real winner for comradebillyboy Sep 2022 #18
That is not real - it is only a Rethug talking point. It was about walkingman Sep 2022 #36
No it was NOT "only a talking point"... brooklynite Sep 2022 #78
This is a quote from Bush... walkingman Sep 2022 #79
+1 betsuni Sep 2022 #88
Speak for yourself, Walkingman. I'd push Ocaiso to progressive Hortensis Sep 2022 #68
We are both Democrats and convinced we must win. walkingman Sep 2022 #72
:) The changes you speak of are why I spoke of liberal Democrats. Hortensis Sep 2022 #75
Excellent post, my friend....we shall overcome!! ☮ walkingman Sep 2022 #76
:) to you, Walkingman. We shall. Hortensis Sep 2022 #84
I'm not aware of any "Democratic side" effort to unseat her... brooklynite Sep 2022 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author brooklynite Sep 2022 #11
I'm not either PatSeg Sep 2022 #33
She won her 2020 Primary 71-27. Her 2022 Primary was uncontested. brooklynite Sep 2022 #35
I didn't realize that PatSeg Sep 2022 #41
Yep Dorian Gray Sep 2022 #89
AOC doesn't seem to be all that interested in coalition building comradebillyboy Sep 2022 #13
Yeah, her entrance as a Justice Democrat makes me have zero pity for her. MrsCoffee Sep 2022 #15
Unity is what is good for our Party - she is a participating member of the Democratic Party. walkingman Sep 2022 #17
Yes, yes it is. MrsCoffee Sep 2022 #20
She is a justice Democrat...but a member I suppose. Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #51
Telling point empedocles Sep 2022 #26
+1 betsuni Sep 2022 #46
Nothing disturbing about it. Beastly Boy Sep 2022 #19
I think the word "matured" is key here. Midnight Writer Sep 2022 #34
From Politico, some context: Just A Box Of Rain Sep 2022 #22
+1 betsuni Sep 2022 #48
Considering the number of democrats she has supported unseating ripcord Sep 2022 #24
We desperately need every seat we can get, w/o purity tests. empedocles Sep 2022 #28
God I hope not PatSeg Sep 2022 #39
? 48656c6c6f20 Sep 2022 #27
She has upset the status quo, and has upset those who benefit from politics as usual Fiendish Thingy Sep 2022 #29
Just curious: how many bills did she write and how many passed? question everything Sep 2022 #30
DU says no bashing democrats. Alert on posts. cbabe Sep 2022 #32
I suggest you consider deleting. Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #52
I was thinking the same thing PatSeg Sep 2022 #74
Democrats are very inclusive of a broad range ideologically -- all the way left Hortensis Sep 2022 #37
Well said PatSeg Sep 2022 #40
+ One Million! Just A Box Of Rain Sep 2022 #49
+100000000 betsuni Sep 2022 #53
+1000, thanks for the dose of reality. Nixie Sep 2022 #63
Terrific Post (nt) ProfessorGAC Sep 2022 #87
Ooh Sympthsical Sep 2022 #38
What is that supposed to mean? Kingofalldems Sep 2022 #45
The rustling of autumn leaves Sympthsical Sep 2022 #58
It looks like a distraction. Nixie Sep 2022 #62
Especially here 😂 Arazi Sep 2022 #57
The perimeter alarms sounded Sympthsical Sep 2022 #59
I inherited a Schutzhund trained Doberman Arazi Sep 2022 #81
... Celerity Sep 2022 #73
This is a forum for Democrats. betsuni Sep 2022 #85
Something to be kept in mind Sympthsical Sep 2022 #90
Nope. Kingofalldems Sep 2022 #44
QUIT WHINING Novara Sep 2022 #54
Oh. The irony. "Trying to unseat me." Nixie Sep 2022 #55
+1 betsuni Sep 2022 #56
Post removed Post removed Sep 2022 #60
Yes, pretty much every day. Kingofalldems Sep 2022 #66
FYI AOC your seat is not yours for life. honest.abe Sep 2022 #64
Some of the replies are very telling AntivaxHunters Sep 2022 #67
they always are Celerity Sep 2022 #91
I am going to try to tapdance carefully on this one... Wrestlefire769 Sep 2022 #71
That's why AOC is so refreshing mvd Sep 2022 #82
I, more, wonder if it's certain parts of the party... Wrestlefire769 Sep 2022 #83
She doesn't consider her constituents to be her "bosses"? LudwigPastorius Sep 2022 #80
+1 betsuni Sep 2022 #86
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