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Pepsidog

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54. American military power especially the navy has largely shaped and maintained the world order since
Sun Sep 11, 2022, 12:43 PM
Sep 2022

the end of WWII. Yes we spend a massive amount of money on our military budget which has allowed the globalization to flourish to our benefit. Our navy keeping the sea lanes open has allowed many other countries to participate in the world economy which has translated into much cheaper products at home. It has also allowed the US dollar to become the only reliable reserve currency. Geopolitical considerations such as population problems will severely affect many countries such as China who doesn't have enough young people to support its rapidly aging population. China is no match for Western military power as it relies heavily on foreign energy and has very poor natural resources. Globalization, however, is coming to an end. The pandemic and supply chain problems will cause many companies to bring manufacturing home or closer to home. America is well positioned for an economic boom as new factories are built that will offer good high paying jobs. The problem we are going to have is providing enough skilled labor especially in the trades. We are going back to the old economic model like we has before the fall of the Soviet Union and rise of China as a manufacturing giant. Inflation will be a thing again but better wages will help offset higher prices. And I can't wait until the day we pay migrants from Mexico and Central America to come to the USA and help with the labor shortage especially in agriculture. As crops rot because there is no labor to harvest I doubt we will hear about migrant caravans at the border.

Russia is and always will be a threat. jimfields33 Sep 2022 #1
and they have the ability to harm us in other non violent ways samnsara Sep 2022 #19
TFG & Brexit to name 2. nt Tommymac Sep 2022 #32
That kind of harm has already done untold damage. ananda Sep 2022 #34
Russia's fundamental aims toward stopdiggin Sep 2022 #30
Yep. calimary Sep 2022 #43
Russia's use of propaganda... Trueblue Texan Sep 2022 #44
their nukes maybe just an illusion as well - they need a lot of upkeep Fullduplexxx Sep 2022 #52
That is true. Progressive dog Sep 2022 #84
So the rats are leaving the sinking ship? All of a sudden the oligarchs Srkdqltr Sep 2022 #2
Or.... don't get ahead of ourselves?? Srkdqltr Sep 2022 #3
Yup Joinfortmill Sep 2022 #40
It isn't just Russia Kaleva Sep 2022 #4
Alas, power is addictive. WWII ended handing a huge power surplus to the US Model35mech Sep 2022 #12
Democrats don't support an isolationist policy Kaleva Sep 2022 #60
True, they're interventionists. Model35mech Sep 2022 #76
Bingo. Modern warfare is expensive. paleotn Sep 2022 #64
Also, the US has been able to supply UKR Kaleva Sep 2022 #93
The threat was always the nukes, still is. Ocelot II Sep 2022 #5
We have a bloated military budget because we protect the world jimfields33 Sep 2022 #6
++++++++ comradebillyboy Sep 2022 #11
In the time of Pax Americana, you are spot on. paleotn Sep 2022 #47
The lies were a tool of control to convince Americans communists were coming for their food bucolic_frolic Sep 2022 #7
Perhaps an illusion that worked for everyone. NCDem47 Sep 2022 #20
"Nothing more than nukes" isn't nothing. Ocelot II Sep 2022 #27
+1 Meadowoak Sep 2022 #26
Did getting it "wrong" have anything to do with the trillions made by US arms manufacturers? Magoo48 Sep 2022 #8
Trillions? Evidence? paleotn Sep 2022 #55
If last year's war department budget was roughly 6 hundred billion, yes many trillion in last 40yrs. Magoo48 Sep 2022 #73
Mathematically, no. paleotn Sep 2022 #75
Perhaps you're correct. I don't care to argue away from the point, so, let me rephrase: Magoo48 Sep 2022 #97
So defense companies should do it for free? paleotn Sep 2022 #98
How much inthewind21 Sep 2022 #99
You and I will forever be light years apart on this issue, so.... Magoo48 Sep 2022 #100
this is so interesting, and I really appreciate the time and effort you put into this! renate Sep 2022 #101
Bloated American bloodsucking military needs enemies, strong enemies, many enemies! Alexander Of Assyria Sep 2022 #9
The only way to cut the budget is for the United States to tell the world they are on their own jimfields33 Sep 2022 #14
Yes. Cut the budget in half, cause when did the world ever ask to be so well protected?! Alexander Of Assyria Sep 2022 #15
Sounds good to me....but what about the yellow ribbon sales??? walkingman Sep 2022 #17
Glad we'll never see that happen. jimfields33 Sep 2022 #49
Or, we could stop funding things like the f-35, unnecessary redundencies, do strict niyad Sep 2022 #92
Citizens of the world are captive populations Marthe48 Sep 2022 #10
Wow!!! So many DUers want America to be weak and defenseless. comradebillyboy Sep 2022 #13
World never asked America to spend near a trillion a year protecting it! Alexander Of Assyria Sep 2022 #16
Ukraine has been asking for our resources for months. jimfields33 Sep 2022 #51
Not The World, and no one begged. Kuwait was about oil business. Others don't have clue Alexander Of Assyria Sep 2022 #94
Twelve times Conjuay Sep 2022 #29
Don't confuse the Soviet Union with Putin's Russia. Happy Hoosier Sep 2022 #18
Good point underpants Sep 2022 #21
This is my take as well. maxsolomon Sep 2022 #48
Yes, they have a huge army and tons of equipment. However... GoCubsGo Sep 2022 #74
The DOD is a jobs program underpants Sep 2022 #22
That's why a successful weapons program COL Mustard Sep 2022 #42
Bingo. paleotn Sep 2022 #79
I'd rather work for NASA Happy Hoosier Sep 2022 #87
We haven't expected a ground war with Russia since the end of the USSR... brooklynite Sep 2022 #23
We haven't expected a ground war with Russia since the end of the USSR... brooklynite Sep 2022 #24
They put their guy in the White House. Turbineguy Sep 2022 #25
Don't worry Conjuay Sep 2022 #28
you don't see China's (rather clearly advertised) stopdiggin Sep 2022 #31
So you see China and the Norks as not a threat to the US? MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2022 #56
You're not in Taiwan I'd guess. paleotn Sep 2022 #81
How dare you question the almighty military. twodogsbarking Sep 2022 #33
Russia's economy is the size of Italy's. They are surely NOT an economic power. They have c-rational Sep 2022 #35
It's always been our oligarchs and theirs against the people of the world. jaxexpat Sep 2022 #36
It wasn't wrong, it was directed. Aviation Pro Sep 2022 #37
Amen Joinfortmill Sep 2022 #38
I'm sure there a several factors, but one is just caution. sl8 Sep 2022 #39
Before Ike Codifer Sep 2022 #41
I think anyone who studies Russia, and certainly anyone in the military... SKKY Sep 2022 #45
+100. nt MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2022 #58
I do not think the US military got anything wrong. The Jungle 1 Sep 2022 #46
+1 Just A Box Of Rain Sep 2022 #50
I ask myself that question a lot Victor_c3 Sep 2022 #53
American military power especially the navy has largely shaped and maintained the world order since Pepsidog Sep 2022 #54
What this country needs is a good Department of Peace Higherarky Sep 2022 #57
I worked on that campaign, even though I knew there was little chance of niyad Sep 2022 #63
You still are working on that campaign, Friend. Higherarky Sep 2022 #82
Thank you, My Friend. niyad Sep 2022 #91
Funny how you don't point fingers at Congress.... paleotn Sep 2022 #59
Funny how you missef "How did the ******US****** get it wrong." niyad Sep 2022 #61
"were supposed to accept the obscenely bloated MIC budget" paleotn Sep 2022 #71
Politicians ignoring the IC? moondust Sep 2022 #62
That is certainly a large part. Payoffs, kickbacks, campaign funding. . . niyad Sep 2022 #65
During the Carter and Regan administrations, the CIA regularly reported that the USSR was going Martin68 Sep 2022 #66
Not everyone was surprised by the state of the Russian military. Just A Box Of Rain Sep 2022 #88
The Russians have a great deal more artillery than the UKR. We have helped counteract that with far Martin68 Sep 2022 #102
As you yourself suggest, there is no comparing the conventional artillery Just A Box Of Rain Sep 2022 #103
Partly true, but the antique artillery is destroying significant amounts of cities, infrastructure, Martin68 Sep 2022 #104
The Russian artillery capacity has given them ability to indiscriminately Just A Box Of Rain Sep 2022 #105
Let's see if the Russian citizens can take this opportunity to liberate themselves Buckeyeblue Sep 2022 #67
One lives in hope. . . niyad Sep 2022 #68
For a very long time, they weren't wrong Warpy Sep 2022 #69
This message was self-deleted by its author jmowreader Sep 2022 #70
Our military industry complex allowed Ukraine to survive frogstar0 Sep 2022 #72
+1 onenote Sep 2022 #78
The Soviet Union versus modern Russia are distinctly different. NutmegYankee Sep 2022 #77
Just look at what their bankrolling of the NRA has done to this country. gldstwmn Sep 2022 #80
A funny take on this, I hope underpants Sep 2022 #83
Russia is not the only military threat to the US. Progressive dog Sep 2022 #85
Amazingly enough, I know that. But I also know how many years I spent hearing niyad Sep 2022 #90
The US spent 20 years in Afghanistan and lost. meadowlander Sep 2022 #86
Don't get ahead of yourself. Xolodno Sep 2022 #89
Smedley Butler had it right: Atticus Sep 2022 #95
We were paying too much attention to a dead queen? 48656c6c6f20 Sep 2022 #96
Donnie Two Point IQ got punked by Putin librechik Sep 2022 #106
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