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getagrip_already

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6. just as pointed.... but another slapdown
Tue Sep 20, 2022, 03:56 PM
Sep 2022

He was asked by a tfg lawyer about starting the process for security clearances.

He said he had considered it, but if the lawyers had a need to know, they would know.

"Need to know" is a term applied to access. It isn't ordered by a judge. It is an operational need required by the team owning the document.

Lawyers don't have a need to know what is in specific documents to defend their clients because the contents won't be presented in court. A stand in proxy description will be used. The courts have procedures for that.

They are there to prevent a defendant from blackmailing the state by making them reveal secrets in court. So they use stand ins.

Not even the prosecutors would know exactly what was in the docs. They would use the same descriptions the defense would get.

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Ok, but can a POTUS actually declassify materials grumpyduck Sep 2022 #1
I think the way to look at it is this... Imperialism Inc. Sep 2022 #11
Let's say TFG can prove all docs are declassified he'd still have to prove they were his. MAGA is .. uponit7771 Sep 2022 #38
Please Make It Happen! The DOJ Cha Sep 2022 #2
DT must be pissing Cha Sep 2022 #3
Are you sure there is actually enough inside him for that? soldierant Sep 2022 #26
Seen Leaving MAL.. Cha Sep 2022 #33
ROTFLMAOAPMP! soldierant Sep 2022 #36
When do they have to put up or shut up ? Beachnutt Sep 2022 #4
I read on a twitter thread that the SM scheduled another hearing for 10/7. I suspect in2herbs Sep 2022 #10
Nice. Just A Box Of Rain Sep 2022 #5
just as pointed.... but another slapdown getagrip_already Sep 2022 #6
Trump wanted loyalty Demanchor Sep 2022 #17
Does Cannon dare remove The Special Master? Jim__ Sep 2022 #7
Idk about that. The Third Doctor Sep 2022 #9
I thinking she WILL! bluestarone Sep 2022 #18
They don't think he's the son... 3catwoman3 Sep 2022 #25
Reality is what the evidence says it is, unless there exists additional evidence bucolic_frolic Sep 2022 #8
I think Trump's argument is, "If I steal it, it is mine." Chainfire Sep 2022 #12
ahh, the toddlers creed..... getagrip_already Sep 2022 #19
The point that seems to keep getting lost is that all these documents belong to the government. Lonestarblue Sep 2022 #13
He thinks he owns the documents because he's on the same page as Louis XIV: "L'etat, c'est moi". TheRickles Sep 2022 #14
'I'm The Only One That Matters,' Trump Says Of State Dept. Job Vacancies November 3, 2017 keithbvadu2 Sep 2022 #34
His life-long motto Pinback Sep 2022 #39
EXACTLY! bluestarone Sep 2022 #27
A president takes secrets and does what he wants with them CharleyDog Sep 2022 #15
The Special Master of Monumental Disaster Blue Owl Sep 2022 #16
Lucky the SM turned out to be a real judge, not a Trump Judge. This should prove very Martin68 Sep 2022 #20
Right elleng Sep 2022 #23
Earlier articles mentioned that Dotard's lawyers proclaim loudly on social media that he declassifie keithbvadu2 Sep 2022 #21
This matter of him claiming to have de-classified the docs makes me wonder; Dyedinthewoolliberal Sep 2022 #22
Doubt it. elleng Sep 2022 #24
some place, some where there must be a way to control this information. Dyedinthewoolliberal Sep 2022 #30
There SHOULD be, but I tend to doubt that such A document or documentS exist. elleng Sep 2022 #32
There is a process that produces a paper trail and those papers do not exist. TigressDem Sep 2022 #29
Thanks! Dyedinthewoolliberal Sep 2022 #31
SO WHAT IF.... they keep getting Special Masters and ALL OF THEM DO THE SAME THING? TigressDem Sep 2022 #28
It'll be good to see this move forward. TiredGenXFemme Sep 2022 #35
He doesn't want just attestations, he wants proof. lindysalsagal Sep 2022 #37
Dearie asks Trump lawyers whether they believe FBI lied about seized documents LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2022 #40
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