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happy feet

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72. well said

Wed Sep 21, 2022, 11:00 AM

Sep 2022

the difference between being right (as in all or nothing) vs. being effective (as in compromise for incremental, sometimes enormous change). Healthcare for all is the former (no one disagrees in the goal), ACA/Obamacare is the latter (not letting perfect be the enemy of the good).

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Though I have not always agreed with him, there are few people in public life more worthy [View all] Atticus Sep 2022 OP

I, my friend, completely agree underpants Sep 2022 #1

Agree! I voted him in a couple of primaries. ananda Sep 2022 #2

I voted for him in 16 although Elessar Zappa Sep 2022 #3

I can't think of another who has spent as many decades consistently fighting for those folks." sheshe2 Sep 2022 #4

This message was self-deleted by its author NoRethugFriends Sep 2022 #5

One of them is President right now. Biden entered the Senate in 1973. pnwmom Sep 2022 #7

+++++++++++++++ sheshe2 Sep 2022 #19

This message was self-deleted by its author sheshe2 Sep 2022 #20

This! mcar Sep 2022 #66

mmmm... progressoid Sep 2022 #73

The 3 strikes rule questionseverything Sep 2022 #89

See post 11 sheshe2 Sep 2022 #13

Pls see# 28 grantcart Sep 2022 #30

There is a large group of them, well organized too grantcart Sep 2022 #28

President Jimmy Carter Lochloosa Sep 2022 #85

Shirley Chisholm Lochloosa Sep 2022 #86

Senator Paul Wellstone Lochloosa Sep 2022 #87

Dolores Huerta. yardwork Sep 2022 #91

I will concede that what you quoted was poorly worded and, therefore, inaccurate. The examples Atticus Sep 2022 #21

Yes, well said mountain grammy Sep 2022 #24

Thanks for the concession. sheshe2 Sep 2022 #26

Exactly. The Democratic Party wasn't dragged anywhere. betsuni Sep 2022 #41

What is "obvious" to many is that the Democratic party has moved to the left IN PART Atticus Sep 2022 #51

How exactly? betsuni Sep 2022 #53

We differ. Clearly you dislike the man. That is your right. Make of it what Atticus Sep 2022 #54

Democrats aren't corrupt, establishment, coastal elites, ignore working/middle class, etc. betsuni Sep 2022 #55

I had not intended to further respond, but your putting populism in the same category as Atticus Sep 2022 #56

That's populism. "No wait, 'some people say' that if maybe that system was not rigged betsuni Sep 2022 #59

The super delegates make the system unfair ( rigged) questionseverything Sep 2022 #88

Has it ever happened that superdelegates chose a candidate who hadn't won? yardwork Sep 2022 #113

This message was self-deleted by its author questionseverything Sep 2022 #115

No it hasn't. But like the word "emails," "superdelegates" triggered conspiracy theory betsuni Sep 2022 #123

Superdelegates are the opposite of democracy questionseverything Sep 2022 #125

Then why did Sanders try to convince superdelegates to switch and back him instead of voters? betsuni Sep 2022 #126

Please answer why superdelegates are the opposite of democracy. betsuni Sep 2022 #131

How did they do that? You're saying Clinton didn't get more votes and betsuni Sep 2022 #122

I was thinking losing the general questionseverything Sep 2022 #124

Why? Why would Republican/independent voters vote for Sanders over Clinton? betsuni Sep 2022 #128

What?! What did that have to do with super delegates? yardwork Sep 2022 #137

Ty 4 the kick! questionseverything Sep 2022 #139

I don't see that the Democratic Party has moved left. It has always been a big tent party. Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #58

Clinton tried to get universal insurance questionseverything Sep 2022 #90

There was a bill in Congress which Hillary Clinton basically wrote...so yeah it was different than Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #96

Hc who wasn't an elected official did present her version of an insurance bill questionseverything Sep 2022 #106

Medicare for All has been around for decades. 1978, health care as a human right. betsuni Sep 2022 #134

Don't forget Elizabeth Warren! Both of them together BComplex Sep 2022 #84

Why try and split the party? questionseverything Sep 2022 #78

Trauma, I believe Uncle Joe Sep 2022 #118

With all due respect, it was Bernie who was dragged, sometimes kicking and screaming Beastly Boy Sep 2022 #62

Biden has been the most progressive president of my lifetime mcar Sep 2022 #67

Sanders greatly influenced Biden's notinkansas Sep 2022 #74

How? How did Biden change his policies? betsuni Sep 2022 #75

Seriously? mcar Sep 2022 #82

That is not true. Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #97

Yes, not true, a myth. betsuni Sep 2022 #132

Way to move the goal posts! yardwork Sep 2022 #92

Meh. n/t pnwmom Sep 2022 #6

Umhm. nt sheshe2 Sep 2022 #12

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Sep 2022 #8

K&R MustLoveBeagles Sep 2022 #9

Agree. MuseRider Sep 2022 #10

+1 EmmaLee E Sep 2022 #107

Welp sheshe2 Sep 2022 #11

Oh, yes!!! n/t pnwmom Sep 2022 #14

That is just one. sheshe2 Sep 2022 #16

Why the hatred for a genuine liberal? FoxNewsSucks Sep 2022 #33

This message was self-deleted by its author sheshe2 Sep 2022 #36

Why idolize him. sheshe2 Sep 2022 #37

+1 betsuni Sep 2022 #42

+1! ShazzieB Sep 2022 #44

Sing it, she! mcar Sep 2022 #69

I don't idolize him, I'd just like to see acknowledgment of the good he's done FoxNewsSucks Sep 2022 #119

Did you respond to the wrong post?! yardwork Sep 2022 #93

No, FoxNewsSucks Sep 2022 #117

Where is the condemnation in that post? yardwork Sep 2022 #120

Always the same bunch too questionseverything Sep 2022 #129

... betsuni Sep 2022 #130

Please don't forget Paul Wellstone and Al Franken ... rubbersole Sep 2022 #38

This message was self-deleted by its author sheshe2 Sep 2022 #17

totally agree gopiscrap Sep 2022 #15

Bernie Sanders is an American hero. RobertDevereaux Sep 2022 #18

+1 area51 Sep 2022 #29

I agree! burrowowl Sep 2022 #22

My grandfather raised 9 kids in Depression in Tennessee before TVA jojog Sep 2022 #23

K n R ! Thanks for posting! We need to Honor him more! JoeOtterbein Sep 2022 #25

The little man ewcordon Sep 2022 #27

The southern Republican voter. jaxexpat Sep 2022 #101

I've not posted here in years, but I had to now AverageJoe Sep 2022 #31

I'd add Jimmy Carter to that short list also FoxNewsSucks Sep 2022 #32

Post removed Post removed Sep 2022 #34

"No one who gave speeches to banksters" -- Goldman Sachs featured speakers: betsuni Sep 2022 #46

Well... progressoid Sep 2022 #64

"garner their favor" for what? betsuni Sep 2022 #70

Exactly. For what? progressoid Sep 2022 #76

What is it about Goldman Sachs that's so diabolical? betsuni Sep 2022 #77

Who said they were diablical? progressoid Sep 2022 #80

"...and then kept them secret" FoxNewsSucks Sep 2022 #116

CONSPIRACY THEORY!!!1111 This is hilarious. betsuni Sep 2022 #121

Oh my! FoxNewsSucks Sep 2022 #142

LOL, am I supposed to be real mad? betsuni Sep 2022 #144

Never been that impressed... brooklynite Sep 2022 #35

+1! ShazzieB Sep 2022 #45

+2 empedocles Sep 2022 #48

well said happy feet Sep 2022 #72

+1 sheshe2 Sep 2022 #81

Well said. yardwork Sep 2022 #94

Totally agree Arazi Sep 2022 #39

limbaugh was the anti-bernie and democrats ignored it for 30 years. so we're here certainot Sep 2022 #40

Recommended. (# 100) H2O Man Sep 2022 #43

I can think of lots. Hillary, for one. W_HAMILTON Sep 2022 #47

+1 betsuni Sep 2022 #49

Great post malaise Sep 2022 #50

K&R! demmiblue Sep 2022 #52

I tried. MrsCoffee Sep 2022 #57

Me too. yardwork Sep 2022 #95

He's not a Democrat wryter2000 Sep 2022 #60

he's what every Democrat should be ProfessorPlum Sep 2022 #68

That's exactly the attitude I was talking about wryter2000 Sep 2022 #83

I mean, if you aren't for the little guys, that means you are for the already rich and powerful ProfessorPlum Sep 2022 #135

Excuse me wryter2000 Sep 2022 #136

What "dishonesty" are you referring to in the prior post? I'm not following your argument. nt Atticus Sep 2022 #140

I now have the person on ignore so I can't read their post wryter2000 Sep 2022 #141

your imagination is doing a lot of heavy lifting ProfessorPlum Sep 2022 #143

I agree Bettie Sep 2022 #61

Agree with MrsCoffee. I read everything I could dig up in 2015, Hortensis Sep 2022 #63

NOPE Fredfon Sep 2022 #65

Touche. notinkansas Sep 2022 #71

I suggest that you read up on the 2016 General election. I have put it behind me, but some never Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #99

+1 ShazzieB Sep 2022 #102

Thank you. Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #104

His ideas are good DownriverDem Sep 2022 #79

After decades as an independent charliea Sep 2022 #98

None today more worthy of respect RocRizzo55 Sep 2022 #100

pleading the 5th Skittles Sep 2022 #103

If Bernie has any flaw, it is that he is too idealistic. Ferrets are Cool Sep 2022 #105

A good man, a good heart and a fighter for what is just and right. Love Bernie. Like Kucinich, Evolve Dammit Sep 2022 #108

K & R ... n/t wackadoo wabbit Sep 2022 #109

I love Bernie too! He singlehandedly shifted the Overton window on Medicare for all Americans. PatrickforB Sep 2022 #110

Bernie and Biden both support unionization. It's basic. jaxexpat Sep 2022 #111

K&R for the little dudes Tommymac Sep 2022 #112

I fully agree. cilla4progress Sep 2022 #114

Not a fan Meowmee Sep 2022 #127

+1 betsuni Sep 2022 #133

Well said all around. I don't get the hero worship. yardwork Sep 2022 #138

Seems some people skipped past these words: "...few people in public life more worthy of respect " Tom Rinaldo Sep 2022 #145

Thank you. nt Atticus Sep 2022 #146

Exactly! Thank you! mountain grammy Sep 2022 #147