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freshwest

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45. Thanks. And the way the mailings and the voter pamphlets described them...
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 03:28 PM
Nov 2012

Would elude many voters. I looked through the entire spread on each candidate. They frame them as rational or mainstream, then you have to look at who has endorsed them. You also have to know their dogwhistles, couched in such terms as responsible, liberty, etc. Many people are so busy in their lives and unfamiliar with the memes, names and groups that are bad actors, so they don't know what's going on.

They also don't grasp the philosophy of governance behind the initiatives, and what the long-term effects will be on social cohesion, and the local school or services. Many wil be fooled, or think they are doing the right thing voting for these. They are usually Tim Eyeman = Grover Nordquist = ALEC organized petitions to sell off the commons and defund the state government so that it will be vulnerable to privateers.

I kept getting mail from the GOP governors' association in D.C., against Inslee. The charges were not backed up, but they made the emotional appeal with the photographs on them. Such as a young man in a firefighter suit looking desperately hurt as if his puppy had just died, an outraged woman dressed as an EMT. These appeals influence a good hearted person, but they don't know the larger picture.

One would have to look at the GOP and know their positions to see how dishonest appeal is. The GOP, 'concerned' about firemen's pensions? This from the party that wants to do away with their jobs, pensions, agencies, unions, public workers, fire, police and FEMA as a mater of public policy?

After this election we need a sweep to clean out these crooks who distort everything, say exactly the opposite of what they do to people, and get the public educated again. We're tired, but we need the young people who are lining the streets to vote for Obama, to get into the process and stay in it. We need to faciliate their involvement, their education. We can't afford to let things go the way the GOP is intending.

Venting over.

This should be sent to radio stations etc. flamingdem Nov 2012 #1
I JUST POSTED TO MY FACEBOOK WALL. Thanks to the info. trueblue2007 Nov 2012 #46
OMG NO! FarPoint Nov 2012 #2
Not a snowflakes chance in hell they would spend money to help get the votes in, in King County. brewens Nov 2012 #3
Can't those "Victory Vans" SheilaT Nov 2012 #4
yes follow and video questionseverything Nov 2012 #11
These people need to be arrested. n/t geardaddy Nov 2012 #5
How is this even legal? ellie Nov 2012 #6
It isn't nxylas Nov 2012 #25
I'm sure it isn't, but that doesn't stop the GOP. nt valerief Nov 2012 #40
It is completely illogical for the GOP to facilitate voting in King county. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2012 #7
These people are sick. democrat_patriot Nov 2012 #8
it just sickens me barbtries Nov 2012 #9
Got an error message when I clicked the link. WilliamPitt Nov 2012 #10
Same here. nt Lone_Star_Dem Nov 2012 #12
I found this. Lone_Star_Dem Nov 2012 #15
" ...Nor is there anything wrong with giving your ballot to someone else" JohnnyRingo Nov 2012 #20
Now call me a right winger, but I'd question the judgment of someone who trusts just about ANYONE alp227 Nov 2012 #64
In CA, a ballot dropped off xxqqqzme Nov 2012 #49
Avoid ALL vans with Republicans in them, that is all... SaveAmerica Nov 2012 #13
Your dailykos link is broken Hutzpa Nov 2012 #14
I'm from WA state and this FRIGGING Totally pisses me off sally5050 Nov 2012 #16
McKenna needs to be hung out to dry like Rossi. Scumbags. I've been inundated with lying literature. freshwest Nov 2012 #24
totally agree... sally5050 Nov 2012 #29
Same in Colorado. CrispyQ Nov 2012 #44
Thanks. And the way the mailings and the voter pamphlets described them... freshwest Nov 2012 #45
Nice Rant but you mentioned ALEC sally5050 Nov 2012 #47
Injunction? No Vested Interest Nov 2012 #17
How about tampering with the U.S. mail? socialindependocrat Nov 2012 #21
We have hand-drop-off locations throughout the county AtheistCrusader Nov 2012 #65
Peeps with video cameras need to be tailing those vans. nt HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #18
Thank you for this. EmeraldCityGrl Nov 2012 #19
I drove by one of these yesterday. Phlem Nov 2012 #22
Are they also using the vans to offer free candy to lure little girls? JPZenger Nov 2012 #23
and this is why DonCoquixote Nov 2012 #26
I understand that, but also have a question (I ask because I don't know): silvershadow Nov 2012 #27
Exactly! easychoice Nov 2012 #30
lol Tigress DEM Nov 2012 #62
There's no need for this ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2012 #53
um... seriously, the Dem party surely is calling the cops and election dept to arrest them? Divine Discontent Nov 2012 #28
What the fuck outsideworld Nov 2012 #31
Looks to me like Kos deleted this posting.... Junkdrawer Nov 2012 #32
Hopefully, this is a hoax Jack Rabbit Nov 2012 #34
The Victory Vans are real. The objection by Kos may be in the "Stealing Ballots" headline... Junkdrawer Nov 2012 #36
Victory, my ass Jack Rabbit Nov 2012 #33
I just went to link to view the whole story, and got an error message... midnight Nov 2012 #35
They need protesters out in front of these things AgingAmerican Nov 2012 #37
Make the punishment death SCVDem Nov 2012 #38
These are the very definition of "Enemies, domestic." DFW Nov 2012 #39
Follow that van! Discreetly, with cameras, and multiple operatives so they don't twig. Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2012 #41
I guess the dems should start deploying their own "victory vans'... Chakaconcarne Nov 2012 #42
Kemper Freeman's probably one of those paying for these. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2012 #43
Before we fly off the handle on this one mlevans Nov 2012 #48
King County Elections website advises everybody liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #52
Sorry but that is unacceptable. The ballot is supposed to be secret. Until the ballot is opened yellowcanine Nov 2012 #68
OMG I saw one of those in my grocer store parking lot liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #50
Wow. Next time you see one follow it around and get video of how they dispose of the ballots. cui bono Nov 2012 #57
Seems the original entry at Daily Kos has a problem.... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #51
The only way they can ever win --- lie, cheat and steal. lpbk2713 Nov 2012 #54
Those bastards will anything to win, it seems libguyob_19556dd Nov 2012 #55
Did they name them "Victory Vans"? Does it say that on the van? cui bono Nov 2012 #56
The one I saw said GOP victory van liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #61
I just voted at Eugene, OR election HQ Nika Nov 2012 #58
WTF! LOSERS. Cha Nov 2012 #59
The Morals Of A Toad colsohlibgal Nov 2012 #60
if any ballots go missing, just look for the nearest plume of smoke. Takket Nov 2012 #63
At what point do we say enough is enough Pakid Nov 2012 #66
Why does state law even allow it? Seems like a nobrainer that one party should not be collecting yellowcanine Nov 2012 #67
Every one of these bastards throughout the country should be tried, convicted and Window Nov 2012 #69
I was wondering what those slime bags were up to. VPStoltz Nov 2012 #70
Law Enforcement, Law Enforcement... AsahinaKimi Nov 2012 #71
rec SammyWinstonJack Nov 2012 #72
FOLLOW THEM! DonRedwood Nov 2012 #73
Do unto them fortyfeetunder Nov 2012 #74
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