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Chainfire

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39. A check valve has to be in a forced system, it does not work in a gravity septic system.
Thu Sep 29, 2022, 05:05 PM
Sep 2022

There is a device, that is a check valve of sorts, that is sometimes installed on a house that is connected to a public sewer, it is called a "backwater valve." It is absolutely unnecessary on a septic tank system because, in a gravity home plumbing system, the septic tank can not be above the "flood lever rim" of any fixture. (see reference below) A backwater valve is a service plumber's dream, because he will be there, on a regular basis, cleaning the thing out, to repair stoppages, for big bucks.

Water, even water ponded during a hurricane does not flow uphill. It can be pumped uphill, it can be siphoned uphill (as long as it ends up lower than it started, it can be blown up hill, or it could be carried uphill in a bucket, but it does not flow uphill, not three feet, and not 3 inches and not 3/10s of an inch. You can see the principle working in a "water level."

In your basement, the floor level would almost certainly be below the water in your septic tank, and yes, the tank will flow, by gravity into your basement because it is down hill! Thus the check valve on the pump system. The check valve is not the impediment to flow, in a pumped system, that it would be in a gravity system, because is has the force of the pump to push debris through the valve.

Here is the plumbing code referral: 715.1 Sewage backflow.

Where the flood level rims of plumbing fixtures are below the elevation of the manhole cover of the next upstream manhole in the public sewer, such fixtures shall be protected by a backwater valve installed in the building drain, branch of the building drain or horizontal branch serving such fixtures.


Trust an old plumber, you don't want a check valve on your septic tank system.

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I've got a few ideas, but lay it on me... Captain Zero Sep 2022 #1
Imagine the opposite of flushing. eShirl Sep 2022 #2
leach field? water pressure pushes it all back up through the toilets? fucking republicans. no regul certainot Sep 2022 #5
Septic tanks do push water back into a toilet, unless the toilet is lower than the septic tank. Chainfire Sep 2022 #23
How dare you.... A HERETIC I AM Sep 2022 #33
Is it ok if I stick my tongue out while typing? Chainfire Sep 2022 #35
You forgot: Don't bite your fingernails. herding cats Sep 2022 #36
Actually I don't, could you tell me because Heather MC Sep 2022 #3
this may help regrestic Sep 2022 #8
You may have to get an exception from the local building codes. rickford66 Sep 2022 #12
I was wondering about that. Unfortunately I live in a location that is primarily septic tanks. seaglass Sep 2022 #19
I want to build a filtration system where the Gray water is reused Heather MC Sep 2022 #20
Building codes are behind the times for many new techniques. rickford66 Sep 2022 #27
I'm also hoping to enlist the people from the save the Chesapeake Bay foundation Heather MC Sep 2022 #30
Even if someone else does it, double check. rickford66 Sep 2022 #34
It really infuriates me that they decide what someone can and cannot live in. Heather MC Sep 2022 #37
There are very rational reasons for building codes. rickford66 Sep 2022 #38
EPA has a webpage on it BumRushDaShow Sep 2022 #14
Wow, 55% of households in Vermont have them. Native Sep 2022 #4
They're a perfectly reasonable waste solution in the proper circumstances sir pball Sep 2022 #15
Raw Sewage Flow regrestic Sep 2022 #6
i wonder if check valves required at the outflow end of the septic tanks. some republican developer certainot Sep 2022 #9
A "check valve" on a gravity sewer would be a blockage waiting to happen. Chainfire Sep 2022 #24
i guess i mean a one way valve of some kind designed for that purpose but you're saying there's no certainot Sep 2022 #25
Water does not run uphill without some force being applied. Chainfire Sep 2022 #26
i imagine in parts of fla there are any sceptic tanks not much lower than 3 ft below floor level and certainot Sep 2022 #28
A check valve has to be in a forced system, it does not work in a gravity septic system. Chainfire Sep 2022 #39
maybe i'm missing something but if the floodwater outside is higher than the toilet lip certainot Sep 2022 #40
That is true, but that means that the water is two feet deep outside you door and is coming in the Chainfire Sep 2022 #41
and that some shitty water certainot Sep 2022 #43
Largest thing is probably sources of fresh water will likely be unsafe to drink cstanleytech Sep 2022 #7
Everyone in the affected areas are "Jacksonville" now. Sad. Samrob Sep 2022 #31
Typhus and other sewage related problems all over the place... ananda Sep 2022 #10
Typhus...or typhoid fever? ShazzieB Sep 2022 #18
Thank you! Typhoid fever, absolutely. ananda Sep 2022 #21
Urban Sewage systems are likely at greater risk TBH JCMach1 Sep 2022 #11
On top of that, there's very little relief in Florida's topography . . . . hatrack Sep 2022 #13
Lived with septic through many Florida hurricanes... JCMach1 Sep 2022 #29
You can install septic fields on flat property Kaleva Sep 2022 #32
You got that right! Chainfire Sep 2022 #42
O.M.G. lindysalsagal Sep 2022 #16
It's a delicate balancing act defined by Urban Service Boundaries HAB911 Sep 2022 #17
Public sewer systems can't handle flooding either Kaleva Sep 2022 #22
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