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Metaphorical

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23. It's Complicated
Sun Oct 9, 2022, 01:53 PM
Oct 2022

In red states the culture is much more extroverted: hierarchical social structures with the men in protecting roles and the women in nurturing roles. Social conformity expectations are also higher. This is very typical of agrarian societies, and it often expressed itself as abuse of the weak by the strong.whi were supposed to protect their family.

Women are also raised in these societies to put the interests of others over themselves, and even in female society there are hierarchies, with those at the top reinforcing the status quo. Women at the too do have some power, but it is usually borrowed from the power of their mate. Finally in agrarian societies the likelihood of women dying in labor was high, especially among poorer women, which meant that fewer women could reach an age where they could gain political power.

Better nutrition, improved birth control (Especially the pill) and access to abortion changed all that. Women now outlive men. More women are choosing not to have children or are waiting later in their lives. This means women are now in far more control of their lives than they have ever been.

Being a protector in a society confers power as well as the perquisites of that power. For men, as women move out from the supposed protection that being male strength and size confer, this is seen as an erosion not only of their own power but a breakdown of the status quo. Uppity women are seen as threats.

This is why the right is going after not only abortion but all forms of birth control, and to a certain extent social health care. These are all intended to reduce female political power, to reestablish agrarian social patterns, and to make women far more dependent upon men. For both men and women, independent power can also be frightening, and they would rather have the surety of known social patterns than the responsibility inherent in being independent.



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A lot of white males terrify them, too. sop Oct 2022 #1
They are all fake tough. pwb Oct 2022 #2
It's a church based patriarchy thing underpants Oct 2022 #3
I think it goes way back further than that. leftyladyfrommo Oct 2022 #7
Wondering where you got the celibate vegetarian info. wnylib Oct 2022 #39
I've never thought about it, but grumpyduck Oct 2022 #4
There isn't anybody they can trust. Women are the enemy. leftyladyfrommo Oct 2022 #5
I don't think the right is afraid of women. They have complete contempt for women and think Demsrule86 Oct 2022 #6
Shit... 2naSalit Oct 2022 #20
... SheltieLover Oct 2022 #31
Financial dependence Demobrat Oct 2022 #46
True but wouldn't you think the women would resent the dntrapment? SheltieLover Oct 2022 #53
I don't know...my hubs likes modern Christian music...not hymns. So he wanted to got to one Demsrule86 Oct 2022 #62
I agree. It's all about religious patriarchy that says men are in charge of everything. Lonestarblue Oct 2022 #44
No, I absolutely agree with you as long as women, POC ETC know are place...all is fine but Demsrule86 Oct 2022 #60
Right. A lot more on track. Men are dominant and meant to be Hortensis Oct 2022 #49
The youngins my daughters age do not subscribe to the patriarchy so...the guys are in for a Demsrule86 Oct 2022 #59
I think it has to do with dominance and power mysteryowl Oct 2022 #8
They are bullies alright. Demsrule86 Oct 2022 #61
They aren't reproducing fast enough Historic NY Oct 2022 #9
Among the RW that I met, the worst 3 were Tetrachloride Oct 2022 #10
I've seen that too. I stay away from women like that. leftyladyfrommo Oct 2022 #12
I am in a distant land now. Tetrachloride Oct 2022 #14
Do boys learn to treat women badly at home. Is it leftyladyfrommo Oct 2022 #11
Lack of role models Tetrachloride Oct 2022 #16
It isn't worldwide and doesn't encompass all races. meadowlander Oct 2022 #28
A big part of the problem (not the entire problem, of course) is the Abrahamic monotheisms. Sky Jewels Oct 2022 #29
This!👆 SheltieLover Oct 2022 #32
See my #41. wnylib Oct 2022 #42
Looking SheltieLover Oct 2022 #51
Polytheistic India has a very serious problem wnylib Oct 2022 #41
Sickening! SheltieLover Oct 2022 #52
Even in Buddhism women are not complete entities and cannot attain enlightenment. meadowlander Oct 2022 #56
I'm terrified of white males and their enablers. ananda Oct 2022 #13
You should be terrified. They are dangerous as hell. nt leftyladyfrommo Oct 2022 #17
Ever heard the legend of Wicked Blue Oct 2022 #50
Because if women and POC get power, it reduces the amount of power that white men have. Scrivener7 Oct 2022 #15
This kind of misogyny can be found in most cultures, though I agree that fundamentalist religion Gaugamela Oct 2022 #18
People of undeserved "privilege" are always afraid that their scam will be exposed. usonian Oct 2022 #19
My grandmother voted w the 1st women: born 1902. lindysalsagal Oct 2022 #21
I wonder if my grandmother ever marched or even voted. leftyladyfrommo Oct 2022 #22
Mine (born 1903) got expelled from junior high Genki Hikari Oct 2022 #65
It's Complicated Metaphorical Oct 2022 #23
I was afraid of my mother after I spilled beer on her hand-crafted quilt packman Oct 2022 #24
Just a thought tiredtoo Oct 2022 #25
it's because of their crackpot religion Warpy Oct 2022 #26
Absolutely! SheltieLover Oct 2022 #33
They're afraid of women voting KS Toronado Oct 2022 #27
Yes, it has to do with how people are wired. GoCubsGo Oct 2022 #30
Here is an article at NIH that substantiates the fear mechanism in rwnjs SheltieLover Oct 2022 #35
Men are afraid women will laugh at them. And women do. Higherarky Oct 2022 #34
eh, it's not just a GOP thing, nor is it anything new. malthaussen Oct 2022 #36
Ever hear the saying women run for office to accomplish objectives & men run to have power SheltieLover Oct 2022 #37
Lack of control Sucha NastyWoman Oct 2022 #38
They are afraid of sane people with principles... dchill Oct 2022 #40
IMO, it's about control, not fear. Ferrets are Cool Oct 2022 #43
Need to control is a manifestation of fear. Scrivener7 Oct 2022 #58
The right wants to go back to an earlier time where white men had all of the power LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2022 #45
But only white men who agree peppertree Oct 2022 #47
same reason whites are afraid of being the minority Hamlette Oct 2022 #48
These misogynic, racist, bigots are fully aware of how badly they treat women and minorities OMGWTF Oct 2022 #54
You guys don't have the same parts that we do. COL Mustard Oct 2022 #55
There is a lot that the right is afraid of, bunch of scarry cats. Pepsidog Oct 2022 #57
Not just women vercetti2021 Oct 2022 #63
Women vote out of compassion more often then men. That is why they applegrove Oct 2022 #64
I think male fear of women starts in childhood Genki Hikari Oct 2022 #66
they are afraid they won't be able to control them, treestar Oct 2022 #67
Women don't need men for the modern version of survival anymore imavoter Oct 2022 #68
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