K&R if you like Obama! (This one is "mega-style"!)

[BlueCaliDem]

56. I can't argue with you on the right-wing shift

of this country, but my understanding of Liberal and Progressive is anything that's to the left of the majority of congressional Democrats, and making any kind progress, no matter how incremental for the good of the 98%ers.

I don't agree that Obama is centrist. He's not as to the left as I'd prefer, but I can't call him a centrist, either. He's a pragmatic progressive, always trying to push the country to the left as much as he can with this centrist, right-of-center, Congress. A president is only as progressive as Congress allows him to be.

I guess I learned that lesson when he signed an executive order to close Gitmo, and when corporate media started polling what the American people wanted, and it showed the majority did not want to close Gitmo, Congress happily obliged and they voted Obama down by a 90-6 vet-proof margin in the Senate, presenting him with his first defeat as president in May 2009. But I do give him kudos for trying, as he had promised.