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malaise

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16. The truth is that if markets are more important than people and society

Sat Oct 15, 2022, 12:55 PM

Oct 2022

then all so called Democratic political systems are flawed and doomed. If the acquisition of wealth and power are the only instruments used to measure success as in winners/losers, we are collectively fucked.

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Do you think it likely, as I do, that decent educated people around the world are just [View all] Atticus Oct 2022 OP

They have lummoxes EVERYWHERE. LakeArenal Oct 2022 #1

Yes, it seems to be happening PatSeg Oct 2022 #30

Epidemic caused by Pooty Alwaysna Oct 2022 #42

Yep! LakeArenal Oct 2022 #44

This is true PatSeg Oct 2022 #67

I do. no_hypocrisy Oct 2022 #2

Wasn't Mueller Parte Deux? nt MerryHolidays Oct 2022 #4

I blame Barr for that. He lied about the Mueller report to protect Trump. Which was not his job. emulatorloo Oct 2022 #12

Mueller still had a chance to overcome Barr MerryHolidays Oct 2022 #17

I agree. He didn't have the courage to speak up for what was true and right. spooky3 Oct 2022 #40

Shouldn't have been that simple lame54 Oct 2022 #18

His actions allowed Trump to claim he was exonerated. Media never really questioned Barr's emulatorloo Oct 2022 #19

And?... lame54 Oct 2022 #52

I'm not sure I understand? Can you please state another way? Thanks. nt MerryHolidays Oct 2022 #58

So, you rob a bank... lame54 Oct 2022 #59

Mueller did his job. no_hypocrisy Oct 2022 #14

Nothing has damaged the USA's reputation in my lifetime more than the popularity of, election of, RockRaven Oct 2022 #3

Yes, cilla4progress Oct 2022 #5

The US reputation has been damaged on many levels. Irish_Dem Oct 2022 #6

It's what happens when you let putin control your government. rubbersole Oct 2022 #45

Exactly. Putin's war on the US has been successful beyond his wildest dreams. Irish_Dem Oct 2022 #48

Yep. Pootie installing a POTUS is the greatest espionage coup in history. rubbersole Oct 2022 #53

I keep saying it is the crime of the century. Irish_Dem Oct 2022 #55

Don't let home-grown billionaires go blameless in this 40 year war. Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2022 #70

Of course, the GOP were very willing partners in crime with Putin. Irish_Dem Oct 2022 #73

Agree Joinfortmill Oct 2022 #46

How can they be sure he won't get back in? onecaliberal Oct 2022 #7

Speaking as a foreigner malaise Oct 2022 #8

Thank you. Anyone who does not realize that should "pull their head out"! nt Atticus Oct 2022 #10

American democracy at the federal level is gravely flawed dalton99a Oct 2022 #11

The truth is that if markets are more important than people and society malaise Oct 2022 #16

Exactly. Fact is, UNREGULATED Capitalism works the best in an authoritarian system. Tommymac Oct 2022 #22

You nailed it malaise Oct 2022 #27

⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧ EXACTLY ⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧ spanone Oct 2022 #33

I think this attitude also may have led to the fall of Rome. triron Oct 2022 #41

And there it is in a nutshell. llmart Oct 2022 #60

And therein lies the problem malaise Oct 2022 #63

I think we've both lived long enough to have seen that coming. llmart Oct 2022 #65

You can speak for the planet malaise Oct 2022 #68

many States too, tbh Celerity Oct 2022 #62

That Mississipi scandal is proof and DeathSentence's Florida malaise Oct 2022 #66

Speaking as an American, I couldn't agree more. n/t Random Boomer Oct 2022 #34

Yup. Love my country, but a little humility needed Joinfortmill Oct 2022 #49

There are things I love about your country as well malaise Oct 2022 #57

Yes, the main surprise from many non Americans I know is that a bellend like Trump did not happen Celerity Oct 2022 #61

True but the thing that keeps a sliver of hope alive is that others tried before malaise Oct 2022 #64

He will be their next nominee as well as their next House Speaker dalton99a Oct 2022 #9

Horrifying Traildogbob Oct 2022 #20

Just imagine Traildogbob Oct 2022 #21

GQP will NOT prevail! Cozmo Oct 2022 #25

Leaving ruskie assets in positions of power within our govt & not locking tfg up SheltieLover Oct 2022 #13

One Canadian's Perspective joemacdawson Oct 2022 #15

And now with Poilievre on the rise, and Danielle Smith in Alberta, LiberalLovinLug Oct 2022 #24

Add India and there are others malaise Oct 2022 #69

No. Beastly Boy Oct 2022 #23

Agree. betsuni Oct 2022 #31

Does the average, educated non-American care that much? Kaleva Oct 2022 #26

Faith in "Goodwill of Human Nature" has proved a myth. Thunderbeast Oct 2022 #28

Cooperation is also a human instinct, along with many social species. scipan Oct 2022 #47

Or the ability to recognize he's a psycho Turbineguy Oct 2022 #29

I have long suspected that many people in various parts of the world think the US has gone mad. Lonestarblue Oct 2022 #32

And Texans excel at this. We see it on display here in New Mexico. triron Oct 2022 #51

I does not matter what "decent educated people around the world" think Jack the Greater Oct 2022 #35

he's done, he has next to no chance of winning Warpy Oct 2022 #36

Decent, educated people around the world were totally flummoxed HubertHeaver Oct 2022 #37

Side effects markodochartaigh Oct 2022 #38

I thought our reputation couldn't be damaged any worse than it was with Martin Eden Oct 2022 #39

I know, Bush/Cheney looked like the US low point of all times. Irish_Dem Oct 2022 #50

I do NOT want to see if the next Rethug POtuS is even worse. Martin Eden Oct 2022 #54

The story is far from over. Irish_Dem Oct 2022 #56

YES! Joinfortmill Oct 2022 #43

Smart people Genki Hikari Oct 2022 #71

I think they are busy fighting their own Trumps jcgoldie Oct 2022 #72

I think they're scared that America could elect a Bad Man again Hortensis Oct 2022 #74

yes obviously it has done a lot of damage Meowmee Oct 2022 #75

Yes but also StormKing Oct 2022 #76

"Why didn't Democrats stop Republicans?" again. betsuni Oct 2022 #77

Don't put words in my mouth StormKing Oct 2022 #81

This is such bs. Why do some insist on setting these people as victims JI7 Oct 2022 #79

Rule: Democrats are the government, government bad. Republicans are innocent bystanders. betsuni Oct 2022 #80

We expected you to fight StormKing Oct 2022 #82

The economy was destroyed, that was the priority and an emergency. betsuni Oct 2022 #84

These are all excuses you wouldn't accept from a Republican StormKing Oct 2022 #85

How would a president prosecute, tho? betsuni Oct 2022 #86

Post removed Post removed Oct 2022 #87

There was nothing to prosecute Bush for. Anyone who cared about Iraqis or anyone else JI7 Oct 2022 #94

"You?" Who is "you?" Are you not a Democrat? Scrivener7 Oct 2022 #88

I am a Democrat. Nice Trumpian finger pointing StormKing Oct 2022 #89

Who is the "you" that YOU are pointing your finger at, then? Scrivener7 Oct 2022 #90

We who gave a ffff and those that didn't StormKing Oct 2022 #91

This is interesting. First, who are these Democrats in your mind who Scrivener7 Oct 2022 #92

What does that mean? betsuni Oct 2022 #95

Apparently we are bad Democrats because we didn't stop the Iraq war. Scrivener7 Oct 2022 #96

Something about an ffff. betsuni Oct 2022 #97

Also don't put words in my mouth StormKing Oct 2022 #83

lol, still blaming others. JI7 Oct 2022 #93

Yes. Yes. Nt raccoon Oct 2022 #78