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StormKing

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76. Yes but also

Sun Oct 16, 2022, 08:33 AM

Oct 2022

They did the same thing for w. We got here by how we've been behaving for decades. As I've been saying for years Trump is a symptom not the disease.

We've been letting Republicans live in their own separate world for too long and never calling them out for it. Now they've grown up a whole generation that believes in an incoming civil war and that they are never told the truth by anyone but conservatives.

Great job.

This is what civility politics gets us

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Do you think it likely, as I do, that decent educated people around the world are just [View all] Atticus Oct 2022 OP

They have lummoxes EVERYWHERE. LakeArenal Oct 2022 #1

Yes, it seems to be happening PatSeg Oct 2022 #30

Epidemic caused by Pooty Alwaysna Oct 2022 #42

Yep! LakeArenal Oct 2022 #44

This is true PatSeg Oct 2022 #67

I do. no_hypocrisy Oct 2022 #2

Wasn't Mueller Parte Deux? nt MerryHolidays Oct 2022 #4

I blame Barr for that. He lied about the Mueller report to protect Trump. Which was not his job. emulatorloo Oct 2022 #12

Mueller still had a chance to overcome Barr MerryHolidays Oct 2022 #17

I agree. He didn't have the courage to speak up for what was true and right. spooky3 Oct 2022 #40

Shouldn't have been that simple lame54 Oct 2022 #18

His actions allowed Trump to claim he was exonerated. Media never really questioned Barr's emulatorloo Oct 2022 #19

And?... lame54 Oct 2022 #52

I'm not sure I understand? Can you please state another way? Thanks. nt MerryHolidays Oct 2022 #58

So, you rob a bank... lame54 Oct 2022 #59

Mueller did his job. no_hypocrisy Oct 2022 #14

Nothing has damaged the USA's reputation in my lifetime more than the popularity of, election of, RockRaven Oct 2022 #3

Yes, cilla4progress Oct 2022 #5

The US reputation has been damaged on many levels. Irish_Dem Oct 2022 #6

It's what happens when you let putin control your government. rubbersole Oct 2022 #45

Exactly. Putin's war on the US has been successful beyond his wildest dreams. Irish_Dem Oct 2022 #48

Yep. Pootie installing a POTUS is the greatest espionage coup in history. rubbersole Oct 2022 #53

I keep saying it is the crime of the century. Irish_Dem Oct 2022 #55

Don't let home-grown billionaires go blameless in this 40 year war. Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2022 #70

Of course, the GOP were very willing partners in crime with Putin. Irish_Dem Oct 2022 #73

Agree Joinfortmill Oct 2022 #46

How can they be sure he won't get back in? onecaliberal Oct 2022 #7

Speaking as a foreigner malaise Oct 2022 #8

Thank you. Anyone who does not realize that should "pull their head out"! nt Atticus Oct 2022 #10

American democracy at the federal level is gravely flawed dalton99a Oct 2022 #11

The truth is that if markets are more important than people and society malaise Oct 2022 #16

Exactly. Fact is, UNREGULATED Capitalism works the best in an authoritarian system. Tommymac Oct 2022 #22

You nailed it malaise Oct 2022 #27

⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧ EXACTLY ⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧ spanone Oct 2022 #33

I think this attitude also may have led to the fall of Rome. triron Oct 2022 #41

And there it is in a nutshell. llmart Oct 2022 #60

And therein lies the problem malaise Oct 2022 #63

I think we've both lived long enough to have seen that coming. llmart Oct 2022 #65

You can speak for the planet malaise Oct 2022 #68

many States too, tbh Celerity Oct 2022 #62

That Mississipi scandal is proof and DeathSentence's Florida malaise Oct 2022 #66

Speaking as an American, I couldn't agree more. n/t Random Boomer Oct 2022 #34

Yup. Love my country, but a little humility needed Joinfortmill Oct 2022 #49

There are things I love about your country as well malaise Oct 2022 #57

Yes, the main surprise from many non Americans I know is that a bellend like Trump did not happen Celerity Oct 2022 #61

True but the thing that keeps a sliver of hope alive is that others tried before malaise Oct 2022 #64

He will be their next nominee as well as their next House Speaker dalton99a Oct 2022 #9

Horrifying Traildogbob Oct 2022 #20

Just imagine Traildogbob Oct 2022 #21

GQP will NOT prevail! Cozmo Oct 2022 #25

Leaving ruskie assets in positions of power within our govt & not locking tfg up SheltieLover Oct 2022 #13

One Canadian's Perspective joemacdawson Oct 2022 #15

And now with Poilievre on the rise, and Danielle Smith in Alberta, LiberalLovinLug Oct 2022 #24

Add India and there are others malaise Oct 2022 #69

No. Beastly Boy Oct 2022 #23

Agree. betsuni Oct 2022 #31

Does the average, educated non-American care that much? Kaleva Oct 2022 #26

Faith in "Goodwill of Human Nature" has proved a myth. Thunderbeast Oct 2022 #28

Cooperation is also a human instinct, along with many social species. scipan Oct 2022 #47

Or the ability to recognize he's a psycho Turbineguy Oct 2022 #29

I have long suspected that many people in various parts of the world think the US has gone mad. Lonestarblue Oct 2022 #32

And Texans excel at this. We see it on display here in New Mexico. triron Oct 2022 #51

I does not matter what "decent educated people around the world" think Jack the Greater Oct 2022 #35

he's done, he has next to no chance of winning Warpy Oct 2022 #36

Decent, educated people around the world were totally flummoxed HubertHeaver Oct 2022 #37

Side effects markodochartaigh Oct 2022 #38

I thought our reputation couldn't be damaged any worse than it was with Martin Eden Oct 2022 #39

I know, Bush/Cheney looked like the US low point of all times. Irish_Dem Oct 2022 #50

I do NOT want to see if the next Rethug POtuS is even worse. Martin Eden Oct 2022 #54

The story is far from over. Irish_Dem Oct 2022 #56

YES! Joinfortmill Oct 2022 #43

Smart people Genki Hikari Oct 2022 #71

I think they are busy fighting their own Trumps jcgoldie Oct 2022 #72

I think they're scared that America could elect a Bad Man again Hortensis Oct 2022 #74

yes obviously it has done a lot of damage Meowmee Oct 2022 #75

Yes but also StormKing Oct 2022 #76

"Why didn't Democrats stop Republicans?" again. betsuni Oct 2022 #77

Don't put words in my mouth StormKing Oct 2022 #81

This is such bs. Why do some insist on setting these people as victims JI7 Oct 2022 #79

Rule: Democrats are the government, government bad. Republicans are innocent bystanders. betsuni Oct 2022 #80

We expected you to fight StormKing Oct 2022 #82

The economy was destroyed, that was the priority and an emergency. betsuni Oct 2022 #84

These are all excuses you wouldn't accept from a Republican StormKing Oct 2022 #85

How would a president prosecute, tho? betsuni Oct 2022 #86

Post removed Post removed Oct 2022 #87

There was nothing to prosecute Bush for. Anyone who cared about Iraqis or anyone else JI7 Oct 2022 #94

"You?" Who is "you?" Are you not a Democrat? Scrivener7 Oct 2022 #88

I am a Democrat. Nice Trumpian finger pointing StormKing Oct 2022 #89

Who is the "you" that YOU are pointing your finger at, then? Scrivener7 Oct 2022 #90

We who gave a ffff and those that didn't StormKing Oct 2022 #91

This is interesting. First, who are these Democrats in your mind who Scrivener7 Oct 2022 #92

What does that mean? betsuni Oct 2022 #95

Apparently we are bad Democrats because we didn't stop the Iraq war. Scrivener7 Oct 2022 #96

Something about an ffff. betsuni Oct 2022 #97

Also don't put words in my mouth StormKing Oct 2022 #83

lol, still blaming others. JI7 Oct 2022 #93

Yes. Yes. Nt raccoon Oct 2022 #78