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Ocelot II

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14. What I want is a scrupulously neutral news outlet and not a biased one,

Sat Oct 22, 2022, 10:15 AM

Oct 2022

even one that's biased in ways I agree with. The problem we have now is that everybody is huddled in the news silos of their choice, watching only "news" that's interpreted according to their personal bias. It's to the point where people can't even agree on facts, let alone what the facts mean. I miss the days of Walter Cronkite and Huntley and Brinkley, where you got straight news without editorializing. The cable news shows and talking heads we like, Maddow et al., are liberals, and they don't pretend not to be. They don't offer up lies like the Fox people, but they are editorialists and not news reporters; they are the equivalent of newspaper op-eds. When we evaluate news sources we need to consider the psychological phenomenon of confirmation bias and think about whether we are getting accurate information or just information that pleases us.

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When are Progressive Billionnaires going to use their wealth to buy media companies and keep them [View all] samsingh Oct 2022 OP

Maybe they're not really that progressive or are worried harumph Oct 2022 #1

Cable is against us. pwb Oct 2022 #2

YouTube? Seriously? brooklynite Oct 2022 #7

totally agree with this Dorian Gray Oct 2022 #72

Youtube is just an aggregator. They don't do their own research or reporting. Ocelot II Oct 2022 #12

Who are the progressive billionaires you are thinking of that should do this ? JI7 Oct 2022 #3

This question, exactly. quakerboy Oct 2022 #18

You are correct about MSNBC gab13by13 Oct 2022 #4

The more money you have the less progressive you are. IMHO. nt Autumn Oct 2022 #5

The problem with a populist mentality in a nutshell. Just A Box Of Rain Oct 2022 #43

Billionaires would be nice, but there should be enough millionaires to do better JHB Oct 2022 #6

it wouldn't take much to destroy the only rw medium that can create the alt reality. RW radio is certainot Oct 2022 #39

And where do you propose to get the resources to do that in any organized fashion? JHB Oct 2022 #47

it's free to complain to universities and pro teams. black athletes are being used to spread racism certainot Oct 2022 #58

I don't know if there are any independent radio stations surviving. They were bought up years ago Hekate Oct 2022 #63

They're not going to do that Bettie Oct 2022 #8

+1 TeamProg Oct 2022 #23

We've never had it that easy. It's why GOTV is our slogan, not a Republican one DFW Oct 2022 #9

Like to see them buy up a lot of rental properties and cut rents in half. MichMan Oct 2022 #10

Like that idea Rebl2 Oct 2022 #11

I don't know about you guys, but I think we have chased out Democratic money people in Demsrule86 Oct 2022 #13

Bloomberg is planing to spend $60M this year per WaPo LonePirate Oct 2022 #16

When? The election is less than three weeks away...He always says that. Demsrule86 Oct 2022 #46

I'm sure there is a way to track his donations. Oppo research certainly finds it out fast enough. Hekate Oct 2022 #65

Whereas I think we have given money a lot of control of the party quakerboy Oct 2022 #20

Touch KPN Oct 2022 #28

We need to be able to fight fire with fire...we will accomplish nothing if we don't have money. Demsrule86 Oct 2022 #48

Besides Biden, I think Bloomberg was the only one who would have beaten Trump in 2022 Polybius Oct 2022 #44

He would have had a chance but being from New York like California makes it hard to win a Demsrule86 Oct 2022 #49

This is the closest that we have come to agreeing in a while, haha Polybius Oct 2022 #54

He would have had plenty of money for sure...I always vote Democratic. So he would have had Demsrule86 Oct 2022 #56

Demonizing billionaires as mustache-twirling cartoon villains. betsuni Oct 2022 #55

As soon as your net worth crosses the billion mark DFW Oct 2022 #71

It doesn't seem to have fazed Ted Turner any DFW Oct 2022 #70

What I want is a scrupulously neutral news outlet and not a biased one, Ocelot II Oct 2022 #14

When you have millions of citizens with near zero or no critical thinking skills for themselves, Justice matters. Oct 2022 #19

Even Hunt and Brinkley and Walter Cronkite were thought of and smeared as liberal by many. Ligyron Oct 2022 #27

I'm with you. Let's see a return of honest journalism instead of 24/7 opinion-entertainment Just A Box Of Rain Oct 2022 #38

We don't have a silo...our people get hammered from everyone. MSNBC is not a liberl media source. Demsrule86 Oct 2022 #50

Cry me a river iemanja Oct 2022 #52

The problem is that we create our own silos. We watch only those programs Ocelot II Oct 2022 #60

This Hekate Oct 2022 #59

It seems like progressive billionaires are more focused on saving the environment. LonePirate Oct 2022 #15

Are they setting an example by selling their private jets and their mansions? MichMan Oct 2022 #17

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Because there's no such thing as a progressive billionaire🤷🏾‍♀️ Heather MC Oct 2022 #21

The best remedy is gathering news on your own Marthe48 Oct 2022 #22

I remember 40 years ago when repugs were whining louis-t Oct 2022 #24

I'm not sure there is a thing called "progressive billionaires". jaxexpat Oct 2022 #25

+1 TeamProg Oct 2022 #35

I've been wondering the same thing. SheltieLover Oct 2022 #26

Maybe because that is a bridge too far & would cut into their wealth by changing society. NullTuples Oct 2022 #37

I suppose perhaps you're right. SheltieLover Oct 2022 #40

Generally progressive billionaire is an oxymoron dlk Oct 2022 #29

Remember 10-15 years ago when it seemed like journalism just...quit? NullTuples Oct 2022 #30

This, precisely Hekate Oct 2022 #64

Good question I often ask as well. Most progressive news and commentary behind a pay wall. Pepsidog Oct 2022 #31

And many in rural areas don't have cable to even get MSNBC! SheltieLover Oct 2022 #42

Because autocratic corporate media monopolies cockblock democratic messaging. ancianita Oct 2022 #32

I doubt there are too many progressive billionaires relayerbob Oct 2022 #33

I don't think having a large Lib. Media Outlet would matter. Viewers are going to seek out what TeamProg Oct 2022 #34

Hence the complaints here about MSNBC and PBS iemanja Oct 2022 #53

So true. BlueKentuckyGirl Oct 2022 #36

I'm done waiting for a savior. He ain't coming. We need to do this ourselves, working together. Midnight Writer Oct 2022 #41

Yup! SheltieLover Oct 2022 #45

We have some progressive billionaire/millionaires, but media monopolists would drive them out. ancianita Oct 2022 #51

#1 It's their money & they get to decide. #2 Are any of them interested in a media empire? Hekate Oct 2022 #57

And if they did there'd be endless complaining, how they hate this or that show, that host, betsuni Oct 2022 #61

One possible solution would be for the labor unions to create a media startup--or fund one. keep_left Oct 2022 #62

Good information, thank you. Re union YouTube channels, I've looked. The closest I could find ancianita Oct 2022 #66

Thanks for the good info. The Fusion channel is a good example... keep_left Oct 2022 #67

It's not profitable for them. The vast majority of liberal/progressive folks do not partake ecstatic Oct 2022 #68

They are really progressive TheFarseer Oct 2022 #69

There's not many of them. Bucky Oct 2022 #73

K&R Roisin Ni Fiachra Oct 2022 #74