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Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
38. If you like, I'd like to know what the "error" is. I do make them from time to time
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 04:44 PM
Nov 2022

I prefer to be corrected when I make errors or hear the other side if they thought I made an error. Perhaps I'm wrong about details of wellness checks or got the number of cameras wrong, but it is probably some other detail you have caught that I'm not thinking of.

You are so much more cogent when you avoid making three word posts. I always look forward to your byline because you are a thoughtful, careful, accomplished writer. That's why I was astounded by your three word post, which gave no room for reason.

As to guessing what another person is thinking, that is one of the tests of consciousness that researchers apply to studies of dogs and dolphins. Everybody does it.

However, I hope it is clear and I will state that I did not tell you what you were thinking in my reply to you. As to guessing what officers and perps might be thinking, speculation like that is performing thought experiments and exploring scenarios to figure out what aspects of an event may have been crucial.

We are agreed 100% that

The OP expressed a problem in understanding why the police, upon entering, did not shoot the thug. It was, as everyone with even the slightest degree of understand knows, because they immediately saw him assaulting Mr. Pelosi, and tackled and restrained him. That was, of course, the proper thing to do.


It is so obvious that I did not think it required a rational explanation. You might have, but I didn't. Thus, we view things differently, don't we?


I do not understand how you think we see things differently on the timing of the police action. As to being explicit, well yes as a programmer I do like explicitness for clarity and lack of ambiguity. In this case, the OP's question indicated the need that an explicit explanation would help them. Several posters did that.

I'm guessing (now that I've read this post of yours) that given you felt no explicit explanation was needed, perhaps you were thinking your reply was sardonic. If so, I missed that. My error if that was the case. I could easily be wrong about that too. But three words typed do not carry the body language, inflections of voice and tonality that saying them in person would convey. Limited bandwidth in 13 letters. Note that in couple's therapy, the statement you quote can be couched with conditionals and posed in a way that encourages feedback which makes things better, as in "I thought you were thinking ..." or "It sure seemed to me your actions on Thursday indicated you were thinking such and such."

So, thank you for clarifying your meaning of your three words. I wrote carefully to bring up the topic of prejudice but not to tar you with it, since your three word post was so surprising to me.

Again:

I prefer when criminals are caught, their background -- including potential associates -- investigated, a trial, conviction, and incarceration. Others might ponder why there wasn't a shooting. I don't.


... 100% agreement. I have written similar sentiments in other contexts, such as hoping tRump gets indicted, convicted, and jailed before he dies a natural death (unless he gets the death penalty for treason).

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Maybe they didn't want to risk harming Mr. Pelosi. milestogo Nov 2022 #1
Exactly. The two were engaged, struggling, fighting, moving. Not a firerange target. hlthe2b Nov 2022 #2
It was probably too dangerous to take a shot at him while he was so close Ocelot II Nov 2022 #3
That didn't stop them from shooting Philandro Castile... TheRealNorth Nov 2022 #17
There will always be bad examples of exceptions. Ocelot II Nov 2022 #18
The shooting of Philandro Castile .. Straw Man Nov 2022 #36
apparently all cops are the same person treestar Nov 2022 #41
American exceptionalism SallyHemmings Nov 2022 #4
Apparently snowybirdie Nov 2022 #5
My thinking too n/t malaise Nov 2022 #10
first thing that came to my mind ShepKat Nov 2022 #6
Yup. grumpyduck Nov 2022 #7
+1 IzzaNuDay Nov 2022 #23
I can tell you: there were no sharp shooters. maxsolomon Nov 2022 #44
You were there at the moment and saw the sight lines for the shot so you can second guess the police Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2022 #8
Making an observation based on historical facts. Samrob Nov 2022 #25
You did not OBSERVE. Yes, black men get shot much more than they should, but you can't generalize to Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2022 #27
And if the police shot him sarisataka Nov 2022 #9
Republicans say it is because under democrats police are weak on crime. Emile Nov 2022 #11
Because life isn't Hollywood Sympthsical Nov 2022 #12
Maybe they don't know about your quota system? Kaleva Nov 2022 #13
+1 Jack the Greater Nov 2022 #16
I am glad he wasn't. Due process is better than a corpse in all cases. nt Gore1FL Nov 2022 #14
Should the cops start shooting more white suspects? Jack the Greater Nov 2022 #15
I wonder the same thing when the police fail to kill a white suspect in the process Ocelot II Nov 2022 #19
My guess is they had no reason to draw their guns when they knocked on the door. patphil Nov 2022 #20
But they enter black homes with guns drawn, no matter what the circumstance. nt Samrob Nov 2022 #26
Not for "wellness checks", not even black homes Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2022 #28
Any time a cop DOESN'T shoot someone who probably deserved it MurrayDelph Nov 2022 #21
Cops are notoriously bad shots. DePape was too close to Pelosi. They could have ended up tblue37 Nov 2022 #22
I'm more confused as to how the thug got in Polybius Nov 2022 #24
No. Broke glass with hammer, seen on Cap Police video (unwatched at that moment, one of 1800 cameras Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2022 #30
The film on H2O Man Nov 2022 #31
He is white. H2O Man Nov 2022 #29
Simple isn't it? Simple explanations are so satisfying but practically useless Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2022 #32
If one compares it H2O Man Nov 2022 #34
Well then, you haven't read the thread. I gave two reasons. Others gave reasons Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2022 #35
I've read the H2O Man Nov 2022 #37
If you like, I'd like to know what the "error" is. I do make them from time to time Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2022 #38
there is no proof that the perpetrator treestar Nov 2022 #40
Others show H2O Man Nov 2022 #43
Let's try precedent. or history. nt Samrob Nov 2022 #45
A black assailant wielding a handkerchief would have been shot 200 times. usonian Nov 2022 #33
oh please, he did not have a gun treestar Nov 2022 #39
He suffers from a pronounced melanin deficiency. 11 Bravo Nov 2022 #42
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