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Sympthsical

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21. Data is data
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 02:38 PM
Nov 2022

I believe the last WaPo poll before the election had the issue split 43D/42R of people who had threats to democracy as a priority. This is the problem I have with how our side tends to be very insular. I read spaces on the Right and see what they're like and talking about. Believe me, they are just as exercised about the threats they perceive to democracy as we are. They've been discussing it nonstop since 2020.

Not "all" the election deniers lost. There were a lot of them on the ballot, and a lot of those people won. We're taking prominent ones going down of indicative of the entire election, which is a mistake. Just because the media highlights things doesn't make them blanket true. Anecdotes not data, etc.

Check out Trump's endorsements vs. success rate.

https://ballotpedia.org/Endorsements_by_Donald_Trump#2022

80% of them (so far) have won.

It's not good to just feel things without data or base them on experiences that are heavily tilted to one side. We have to work with objective reality, and objective reality reveals the Right takes the democracy issue as they see it very seriously, and a whole mess of Trump's people got through.

I think it's dangerous not to recognize this. Are we going to just ignore them until 2024? Because we shouldn't. We should be acknowledging them right now and sound the alarms early instead of latching onto a fictitious media narrative that they all lost somehow.

We've earned a breath in all this - not comfort.

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Getting Dodd on the ballot in as many states as possible in 2024 is a key Johnny2X2X Nov 2022 #3
I'm kind of upset there wasn't a bigger push forcthis AZSkiffyGeek Nov 2022 #9
I thought there would be more election deniers refusing to concede. Trump is doc03 Nov 2022 #5
I'd like to think that some of them finally volunteered to work an election & discovered CrispyQ Nov 2022 #8
That is what happened. Additionally, True the Vote leaders got thrown in jail a few weeks ago. LeftInTX Nov 2022 #13
I think they were so confident in the "Red Wave" they preemptively Cosmocat Nov 2022 #15
For many years I read (in articles & boards like this) that the GOP would never actually ax Roe CrispyQ Nov 2022 #6
I think this may be the beginning of a generational change in politics. kentuck Nov 2022 #7
Soon, climate change will dwarf every other issue. Who has more at risk than young people? CrispyQ Nov 2022 #11
In time, it will be. kentuck Nov 2022 #12
I NEVER bought that Cosmocat Nov 2022 #16
Oh yes. CrispyQ Nov 2022 #22
We need to keep talking to people, continue organizing. More outreach in more places. onecaliberal Nov 2022 #10
And that's exactly what the DNC is doing, right now Genki Hikari Nov 2022 #14
We need more, because these communities are still feeling marginalized. It doesn't matter what we onecaliberal Nov 2022 #17
I believe you are misinterpreting this election sarisataka Nov 2022 #18
It's this Sympthsical Nov 2022 #19
How would we explain all the "election deniers" losing, except for Kari Lake...? kentuck Nov 2022 #20
Data is data Sympthsical Nov 2022 #21
I have a bit of a different take. The opposing camps are so hard-defined now maxsolomon Nov 2022 #23
Equal to Roe is the R stated plans to eliminate SS and Medicare. Sogo Nov 2022 #24
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