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IbogaProject

(5,735 posts)
21. Barriers to entry
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 06:32 PM
Nov 2022

Insulin first discovered in the late 1920s. Only advances over 50 years was different suspensions which slowed the absorption. The next advance was using biotech with recombining DNA altered eco-li cells those human insulins went on the market in 1982. The technology hasn't matured much. The most recent changes were Humalog, Novalog both made with one pair of amino acids switched. Those are made exactly the same as the prior ones. The other advance was hanging stuff off the molecule to get the absorption to right around 24 hours and stable absorption. There are two main types Glaglarine and Detmir.
The small cartel of basically three companies have the regulatory bodies have much harder approval than the previous generic drug regulations. So now the two biggest of the cartel each make a bio-similar (identical) of another's product to offer very slight discounts on things that should be under free market competition with only safety regulations constraining them.
The problems we face in getting a single national health payment system are the campaign cash big pharma throws around, and their huge advertising budgets corrupting journalism.
Single payer would save everyone aggravation, reduce delays to care, save money even during the initial transition. There would then be knock on benefits like reducing liability insurance, since health costs wouldn't have to be covered anymore and again no barriers to diagnosis and treatment.

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This just may blow up blm Nov 2022 #1
I sure hope so! QED Nov 2022 #2
What, like insulin would be free the way it should be? WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2022 #4
I am loving this. yardwork Nov 2022 #12
It is rather delicious, isn't it? QED Nov 2022 #14
THIS malaise Nov 2022 #24
Good. dalton99a Nov 2022 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author SouthernCal_Dem Nov 2022 #5
Holy shit! Elmo is a fucking moron! zuul Nov 2022 #6
WTHell should insulin be "free"? Disaffected Nov 2022 #7
Fair price yes, price gouging no. QED Nov 2022 #8
Sure. Disaffected Nov 2022 #11
Barriers to entry IbogaProject Nov 2022 #21
Thanks for that. Disaffected Nov 2022 #25
The price of Glargine was jacked way, way up, before the patent expired Mariana Nov 2022 #28
"The products in Canada are the same." Disaffected Nov 2022 #30
Brand name or generic. Mariana Nov 2022 #31
No, I was referring to the price. Disaffected Nov 2022 #32
It's identical world wide IbogaProject Nov 2022 #36
Sell it at cost. Would cost pennies a dose. Seems fair. yardwork Nov 2022 #13
There is no way a pharma Disaffected Nov 2022 #18
I think 43-60x price markup is a bit much. QED Nov 2022 #19
No argument there. Disaffected Nov 2022 #23
Sure they do. Insulin is generic now. Pharma sell plenty of things at cost. yardwork Nov 2022 #35
Fair price is price in Canada. Gouging price is normal price in America. Talk about inflation! Alexander Of Assyria Nov 2022 #16
It should be free to anyone who needs it William Seger Nov 2022 #27
It was because the patents were going to expire. Mariana Nov 2022 #29
Will Eli Lilly sue Musk? LiberalFighter Nov 2022 #9
Oh, I hope so. Haggis 4 Breakfast Nov 2022 #26
EXPOSEDGOOD!!!! asiliveandbreathe Nov 2022 #10
My daughter has Type 1 Diabetes RedSpartan Nov 2022 #15
The prices of modern insulins is too high, that's a given TexLaProgressive Nov 2022 #17
Mush Twit has created a fake news machine! bucolic_frolic Nov 2022 #20
Insulin should be free... McKim Nov 2022 #22
Does Eli Lilly make bonesaws? Kennah Nov 2022 #33
Burn the greedy bastards' stock to the ground. Well done, Eloon. Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2022 #34
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