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BumRushDaShow

(128,844 posts)
102. Well let me unpack this
Sat Nov 12, 2022, 12:12 PM
Nov 2022
I thought Dems went to the Iowa State Fair??


They go but the media focuses on the clown shows from the GOP circus and it can't be relegated to just that one.

I live in San Antonio and 4H is a thing, even here. My son won an award for his drip irrigation one year.


That's great! I know I have debated doing drip tubes on my outdoor potted plants but trying to get the water source there consistently has been a challenge. I have a pile of those "plant-gators" irrigation "donuts" that I bought but have procrastinated throwing them on my bigger pots in any case.

I was born and raised and still live in Philly and it's a "thing" here too, but goes through phases of whether it gets featured or not. We have an agricultural high school here - "W.B. Saul High School"



They have a farm property not far from where I live with horses and livestock, poultry, and produce.

I think most counties in the US have ag extensions.


USDA used to have an extension office in every County in the U.S. (I believe started as a result of the dust bowl under FDR) but over the years, they have consolidated them - particularly if you have a few very rural counties with only few thousand residents in the entire County, so the Agent would be responsible for a couple such Counties.

I believe Abraham Lincoln established land-grant universities and those programs filter locally.


I am an alumni of UMASS, which was such a university. Going up Rt. 9 towards Amherst was nothing but farms, moo moos, and baa baas. And then up popped the "weeds" of the University library and dorm towers of the SW Residential area.



In urban areas those programs include nutrition programs and master gardener programs. (Master gardeners tend to be very republican).


Not necessarily. Philly isn't just all stereotypical citified "nutrition programs". There is the full range of ag including things like apiaries/bee-keeping and backyard farming. The Master Gardeners here are the opposite of "very Republican" in this dark blue city. Plus this city, with its gardening heritage including the oldest indoor Flower Show in the country - the Philadelphia Flower Show run by the PA Horticultural Society, makes horticulture in general all the stronger, as they are deeply involved here in this city.

However, we can still work with these agencies/agents in urban areas because they do carry a message to their rural counter-parts.


We need to do more "leisure" activities with them. There is a tendency to go in swinging a political hammer and immediately start bringing up "politics" and "policies" -- much of which the average person doesn't focus on 24/7. Doing that immediately puts up the wall and they shut down. And if they bring it up, then wave it away.

I had 2 co-workers who could have been considered Limpballs-listening RW loons but we shared a love of other subjects so we just tip-toed around politics and focused on what we had in common.

If people see that you enjoy some of the same activities that they do, then the politics thing can come MUCH MUCH later.
Obama told us years ago, Corgigal Nov 2022 #1
I moved the hell out of Ohio, there's no talking to brainwashed haters. we can do it Nov 2022 #30
I could say Delphinus Nov 2022 #94
Fuck Ohio. MicaelS Nov 2022 #110
Maybe we need a student exchange program between city kids & farm kids. ??? -nt CrispyQ Nov 2022 #44
move there is right...you know how cheap housing is ....or was...in rural america dembotoz Nov 2022 #60
CLEARLY provide facts, ourselves and 'force' media to do so. elleng Nov 2022 #2
This!👆 SheltieLover Nov 2022 #12
What can Democrats do to win rural voters? EYESORE 9001 Nov 2022 #3
That's what I was thinking. piddyprints Nov 2022 #13
That just makes me sad. Model35mech Nov 2022 #49
Gov. KKKemp of GA opposes all those ideas because Democrats support them. CottonBear Nov 2022 #53
yes dembotoz Nov 2022 #61
I doubt there is a magic wand you can wave and they sudden will vote for us in the next election. Claustrum Nov 2022 #4
Dems have built infrastructure in rural areas. LOTS of it. maxsolomon Nov 2022 #21
But they love the born rich, "coastal elite", lifelong New York City resident Mariana Nov 2022 #42
Direct mail can bypass radio, TV, and social media. wnylib Nov 2022 #108
75% of the vote TFG got in MI in '20 came from urban and mostly urban counties Kaleva Nov 2022 #5
Go there and talk to them. Maybe we can't do anything and it's really hate. onecaliberal Nov 2022 #6
And it surely has many... 2naSalit Nov 2022 #40
I live in one. I discovered that my neighbors were fascists in the Nextdoor AP. onecaliberal Nov 2022 #46
Enter rural America. Be Beto. LakeArenal Nov 2022 #7
We don't need rural, racist Dump lovers. roamer65 Nov 2022 #8
A majority of Dump lovers live in urban areas Kaleva Nov 2022 #10
The most signs against Prop 3 that I saw were in rural areas of MI. roamer65 Nov 2022 #20
About 200,000 people of Wayne County voted against Prop 3 Kaleva Nov 2022 #57
Urban? or SUB-Urban? maxsolomon Nov 2022 #22
As many people in Wayne County ,( metro Detroit) voted for TFG... Kaleva Nov 2022 #55
OK, you're saying counties and I'm saying cities. maxsolomon Nov 2022 #65
When people are talking about rural areas, they are often talking about counties Kaleva Nov 2022 #71
That just isn't true. llmart Nov 2022 #56
Look at the election results. County by county Kaleva Nov 2022 #58
Isn't That A Tautology? ProfessorGAC Nov 2022 #88
It shows Trump would be a non factor if he got a majority of his votes from rural counties Kaleva Nov 2022 #90
Didn't Address My Point ProfessorGAC Nov 2022 #106
+1 llmart Nov 2022 #92
We don't have to "win" the rural vote moose65 Nov 2022 #9
Exactly DBoon Nov 2022 #14
+1 leftstreet Nov 2022 #31
Right. Winning would be a 5-10% increase Captain Zero Nov 2022 #47
I think they have to learn the hard way... ananda Nov 2022 #11
Learn???? piddyprints Nov 2022 #15
Totally agree. 33taw Nov 2022 #37
OK, you got me. ananda Nov 2022 #52
Tear down all the AM radio towers. Salviati Nov 2022 #16
THIS.☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️ roamer65 Nov 2022 #24
+1 honest.abe Nov 2022 #25
And the churches. Mariana Nov 2022 #45
This and Fox Noise Emile Nov 2022 #63
+1....read my sig line Roisin Ni Fiachra Nov 2022 #82
10000000000% this!!! Greybnk48 Nov 2022 #120
Work on down ballot races. Build a farm team. cachukis Nov 2022 #17
Yep...down ballot races is the key. Also every county in the country has some type of ag extension LeftInTX Nov 2022 #96
Great idea. Big in Florida. I have friends. Like it. cachukis Nov 2022 #97
The Florida Horticultural extension is good! LeftInTX Nov 2022 #100
Used them when I planted blueberries. Never thought about the cachukis Nov 2022 #101
Just read this thread sarisataka Nov 2022 #18
run a bunch of joe manchin like candidates? getagrip_already Nov 2022 #19
That makes me think of Brian in Tree Lady Nov 2022 #125
I think it is cultural and tribal at this point. texasfiddler Nov 2022 #23
Point out how the Dept. Of AG FUNDS Captain Zero Nov 2022 #26
We might not get majorities lees1975 Nov 2022 #27
AM Radio Bettie Nov 2022 #28
Don't forget the power and reach of AM radio. Qutzupalotl Nov 2022 #29
Right-wing hate radio is the problem in rural America. Mister Ed Nov 2022 #32
end media consolidation so that all radio stations aren't owned by Bettie Nov 2022 #67
This!!! So much this! Initech Nov 2022 #73
If most of Trump voters live in urban or mostly urban counties, Kaleva Nov 2022 #74
I'm not sure I understand this question. Could you please explain? Thanks. n/t Mister Ed Nov 2022 #76
You said that RW hate radio is the problem in rural Americs Kaleva Nov 2022 #77
There's no doubt that RW hate radio influences people in cities and suburbs as well. Mister Ed Nov 2022 #78
Is that actually true? Kaleva Nov 2022 #79
Yes, it is. Mister Ed Nov 2022 #80
Yes, no one has been able to provide sources that show RW radio dominates rural areas. Kaleva Nov 2022 #85
Short answer: Nobody listens to it. hunter Nov 2022 #104
As many have pointed out, the hate AM radio Tumbulu Nov 2022 #33
You don't have to win the rural vote. nycbos Nov 2022 #34
This Cosmocat Nov 2022 #50
Here in KY, it's not as red as you would think. People here don't Meadowoak Nov 2022 #35
Rural America votes on two issues - Guns and Abortion. 33taw Nov 2022 #36
And hate for immigrants, gays, etc. Mysterian Nov 2022 #116
Agree. I live in rural America - sometimes it is scary. 33taw Nov 2022 #122
Democrats need to take a reverse play from the Republican long game book. Chainfire Nov 2022 #38
I live in the biggest city Dr. Shepper Nov 2022 #39
OK, y'all got it out of your system again? MuseRider Nov 2022 #41
Excerpt: Why progressives are prodding Democrats on rural voters Donkees Nov 2022 #81
Thank you Donkees! MuseRider Nov 2022 #86
As you know, he did focus on revitalizing rural America and on ''bringing people together'' ... Donkees Nov 2022 #93
Sadly I am not sure how many MuseRider Nov 2022 #103
Leading with humility and compassion is the antidote to the poisoned years this nation endured. Donkees Nov 2022 #118
At times that is the hardest thing I have had to do. MuseRider Nov 2022 #121
If it were easy, there would be no need for us to practice equanimity :) Donkees Nov 2022 #123
You got me there! MuseRider Nov 2022 #124
So understanding and maybe listening GusBob Nov 2022 #105
Thank you GusBob. MuseRider Nov 2022 #109
Yep GusBob Nov 2022 #128
As someone in a red rural area, it would be difficult Amishman Nov 2022 #43
Good question. Texaswitchy Nov 2022 #48
I would say the only think we can do to improve our lot in rural areas is Scrivener7 Nov 2022 #51
A massive expansion of internet and cellular access may be the answer and compete with AM hate PufPuf23 Nov 2022 #54
Sprinkle some rural Vermont magic powder... Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2022 #59
Ehh, fuck the rural vote. It's not worth the effort. Let's concentrate on our urban base and the Sky Jewels Nov 2022 #62
we could (gasp) spend some money in rural areas dembotoz Nov 2022 #64
In Iowa, this morning, I heard Bettie Nov 2022 #66
You want to win rural areas? Become Republicans. Plain and simple. AZLD4Candidate Nov 2022 #68
Look at Sharid Davies BradAllison Nov 2022 #69
She sure did! MuseRider Nov 2022 #70
Shut off Fox News and AM radio. Initech Nov 2022 #72
Need to understand them first. Xolodno Nov 2022 #75
Do Democrats go to any of the State Fairs? BumRushDaShow Nov 2022 #83
I thought Dems went to the Iowa State Fair?? LeftInTX Nov 2022 #95
Well let me unpack this BumRushDaShow Nov 2022 #102
Good insight LeftInTX Nov 2022 #107
They need to gain ownership of Conservative propaganda outlets. Buy up the media conservatives own. UCmeNdc Nov 2022 #84
Show up. nt Baltimike Nov 2022 #87
Get rid of Fox News. Jskudris55 Nov 2022 #89
Short of more sane people moving there, I don't see it in my lifetime maxrandb Nov 2022 #91
We don't need to win them all, or even the majority, but lees1975 Nov 2022 #98
Make sure our image matches our positions gulliver Nov 2022 #99
I suggest building affordable housing in rural areas. FlyingPiggy Nov 2022 #111
I suspect Ohio and Florida will run themselves into the ground Buckeyeblue Nov 2022 #112
Bring infrastructure and economic development to rural areas. Just A Box Of Rain Nov 2022 #113
Honestly? Give up on social justice Happy Hoosier Nov 2022 #114
Establish a presenmce there full time. Not just a 50 state strategy, but... JHB Nov 2022 #115
Offer material benefits. David__77 Nov 2022 #117
Improve education and end racism Mysterian Nov 2022 #119
What do Republicans need to do to win the urban vote? Polybius Nov 2022 #126
You don't have to win... Just increase margins by addressing local issues JCMach1 Nov 2022 #127
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