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druidity33

(6,859 posts)
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 08:22 PM Nov 2022

Do we really want to control the house by only one seat? [View all]

The more i think about it the worse it feels. Several Manchins in the caucus would wreak havoc on any policy agenda. If we don't get things done the backlash in '24 might lose us the Presidency. If Republicans have the one seat advantage and can't get their shit together, or if they try and pass things (involving SS and Medicare) that causes division among their caucus... all to the better outcome for '24. Thoughts here?

Here's Josh at TPM thinking these thoughts too?:

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/yes-she-might-still-be-speaker-in-january

"Let me add one sort of odd note here. There’s actually a pretty good argument that it’s in Democrats’ political interests not to get the majority here.

I’ve said repeatedly that the coming debt ceiling fight is the whole thing. It’s everything. It is. But there are also liabilities to holding a narrow majority. When you control everything in Washington or appear to, every problem is on you. Every election at least defaults to a referendum on how you did rather than a choice between two options. As we’ve just seen, it doesn’t always end up that way. But that’s the default. You also build up a certain thermostatic, partisan pressure for a shift in power. If Democrats hold both houses of Congress, you go into 2024 with Republicans shut out of power in Washington for four years. And as we’ve discussed, 2024 is the big deal. That’s when everything will be on the line. Not just the Congress but the White House too."



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It would beat a sharp stick in the eye. CentralMass Nov 2022 #1
Thanks elleng Nov 2022 #2
As someone TlalocW Nov 2022 #7
YES republianmushroom Nov 2022 #3
OF COURSE!!!! 50 Shades Of Blue Nov 2022 #4
I am of the thought that not much will get passed in the next two years. texasfiddler Nov 2022 #5
I also think not much will get passed... druidity33 Nov 2022 #14
We are closer than ever to chip a few Republican votes away. LakeArenal Nov 2022 #22
Every Republican that we chipped away last term... druidity33 Nov 2022 #32
Then it's a good thing that you aren't our elected official. LakeArenal Nov 2022 #40
Every member of the House Zeitghost Nov 2022 #61
Yes. Chairmanships and Democratic agenda. Qutzupalotl Nov 2022 #6
It would keep Jim Jordan from being the chair of the Judiciary. There's that. dem4decades Nov 2022 #8
Reason enough right there, IMO. 3catwoman3 Nov 2022 #27
Yep. That's all I needed to be reminded TheBeam19 Nov 2022 #45
Could Nancy Pelosi still end up being Speaker? roamer65 Nov 2022 #9
That would be a no. dem4decades Nov 2022 #49
What, you want to sit through two years of Hunter Biden laptop investigations? Sky Jewels Nov 2022 #10
That could actually be beneficial. Hyper_Eye Nov 2022 #12
Hillary's emails was stupid In It to Win It Nov 2022 #15
In case you hadn't noticed, the GOP just makes shit up, & they waste millions of taxpayer dollars Hekate Nov 2022 #52
+1, uponit7771 Nov 2022 #58
It will have it's problems, Mr.Bill Nov 2022 #11
with a one vote margin? druidity33 Nov 2022 #21
Well we can all disagree on a TPM opinion. LakeArenal Nov 2022 #24
yup. looks pretty universal here on DU... druidity33 Nov 2022 #30
Yes, absolutely. Mr.Bill Nov 2022 #26
Yes In It to Win It Nov 2022 #13
Yes LeftInTX Nov 2022 #16
Yes if dems control the house they decide what is brought to the floor for a vote Bev54 Nov 2022 #17
WHAT!!! That is the dumbest suggestion I have heard on so many levels, the most basic is that JohnSJ Nov 2022 #18
I'm with you. Joinfortmill Nov 2022 #47
That inthewind21 Nov 2022 #62
What a bizarre question Effete Snob Nov 2022 #19
Yes. Among other things, no Traitor Green for committee assignments for another kairos12 Nov 2022 #20
Name something the Dem conservatives did to interfere with the Biden-Pelosi agenda brooklynite Nov 2022 #23
So i can't mention Manchin or Sinema? nt. druidity33 Nov 2022 #36
Your OP was about the House Kaleva Nov 2022 #37
No because you were discussing the House. brooklynite Nov 2022 #38
They aren't in the House, which I believe is your subject in this thread. emulatorloo Nov 2022 #39
But he crippled every other major legislation... druidity33 Nov 2022 #55
This message was self-deleted by its author emulatorloo Nov 2022 #59
You're inthewind21 Nov 2022 #64
Did you even read my OP? druidity33 Nov 2022 #73
No inthewind21 Nov 2022 #63
Better than losing it by one seat... Wounded Bear Nov 2022 #25
The climate doesn't need 2 years of repub incompetence. rubbersole Nov 2022 #28
Could it possibly be fake news? czarjak Nov 2022 #33
Yes blogslug Nov 2022 #29
This is a trick question, right? Ferrets are Cool Nov 2022 #31
Yes denbot Nov 2022 #34
Hell yeah RussBLib Nov 2022 #35
Fuck yes... Ellipsis Nov 2022 #41
hell Celerity Nov 2022 #42
Republicans would control committee appointments and the purse. imavoter Nov 2022 #43
It would be better if the Republicans were in charge for the next two years, in my opinion... kentuck Nov 2022 #44
How inthewind21 Nov 2022 #66
Um, we took the House in 2018... druidity33 Nov 2022 #75
Only an old woman, but may I say politely, WTF people? This isn't a time for academic arguments. Joinfortmill Nov 2022 #46
Fuck it. Let's give Republikkkans the Senate, too. Orrex Nov 2022 #48
It is a whole lot better than losing by one seat Hekate Nov 2022 #50
Yes nt Meowmee Nov 2022 #51
Obviously we would prefer to control it by 40, but if ONE party has to be the majority DFW Nov 2022 #53
OMG seriously? You want Hunter Biden's laptop investigation for the next two years? Emile Nov 2022 #54
Of course, yes. Good grief. n/t Judi Lynn Nov 2022 #56
Its will be a mess either way. honest.abe Nov 2022 #57
Beats the hell out of losing it by only one seat. MineralMan Nov 2022 #60
of course we do. Zeitghost Nov 2022 #65
How do inthewind21 Nov 2022 #68
Math and Propability Zeitghost Nov 2022 #69
Whoever has majority in the House, even by ONE VOTE Wednesdays Nov 2022 #67
Do you know how committees work? themaguffin Nov 2022 #70
Yes. Iggo Nov 2022 #71
I can see both viewpoints Bettie Nov 2022 #72
total "sour grapes" fable... WarGamer Nov 2022 #74
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